Master P Has A Propensity For Putting Out Trash Product

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Master P has like 3 good mixtapes since Da Last Don. Da Last Don was 1998. Those 3 mixtapes were between 2012-2014. So in 21 years, Master P has like 4 good releases :dead::dead::dead::dead: at this point, I'm not sure what people are discussing. Master P has unabashedly made flat out BAD music for yyyyyeeeeeeaaaaaaars. What exactly is the "disrespect" people are talking about in here??
 

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I fukk with MP Da Last Don

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Assuming you have access to a decent system or a great pair of headphones

C Murder feat BG “Yall heard of Me”
2005 (off the Truest shyt I ever said)

C murder was that nikka, (IMO) had he stayed focused on music he would’ve been able to carry the Tank (with the right production/oversight).


He had the respect of his peers, and eye for talent, and he made great music
No it’s not a good album

It’s the first time I was disappointed with an album as a kid
 

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That wasn't Cash Money's downfall. Baby and Slim knew it was time to move forward with Wayne as the future and new sounds. BG, Juvie and Mannie were disposable before the fans knew it. Harsh, but keen business move on Baby and Slim's part. Their bet was correct.

Never look at it like that:patrice:

I do remember bird calling mannie beats outdated or something to that effect in an interview...:mjcry:
 

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Frankly, P always been garbage

I came to this conclusion once that era came and went and man's could reflect back with clarity
 

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Never look at it like that:patrice:

I do remember bird calling mannie beats outdated or something to that effect in an interview...:mjcry:

Think about it. They "left" right at the point when they were no longer needed.

What did they do after they left Cash Money? :francis:

Wasn't like Dre or Snoop post-Death Row.
Baby and Slim got the most out of them and then were :camby:

After all of that, Juvie eventually came back just recently.
 

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That wasn't Cash Money's downfall. Baby and Slim knew it was time to move forward with Wayne as the future and new sounds. BG, Juvie and Mannie were disposable before the fans knew it. Harsh, but keen business move on Baby and Slim's part. Their bet was correct.

I've followed Cash Money since the early 90s.

I thought B.G. had more talent than all of them as an emcee he just got caught up and addicted to heroin though. Chopper City and It's All on U Vol. 1 & 2 were classics in my opinion in a time before those guys reverted to a more commercial sound.

Even after he left CMR Life After Cash Money was a criminally underrated album back in 2004.

Turk went on record in a breakfast club interview admitting his own herion addiction as well before he ended up doing a bid.

Wayne was more of Baby trying to salvage what was left of the Hot Boys than trying to make Wayne into the franchise player in my opinion.

Lights Out and 500 Degreez was not up to par with other CMR works. Wayne switched up his style around that time after the 500 Degreez album to send started modeling himself more after those East coast cats than a southern emcee.

He didn't really start to get a little following until after the Carter 1, before then Baby was scrambling with lesser acts like Boo & Gotti, TQ, and even Mack 10 came and linked up with them for a while.

Wayne didn't come into his own until several years later.
 

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I was a big No Limit fan in the late 90's but ever since that Last Don album dude been putting out pure basura product and I'm not just talking about music.

All of his movies been trash or knockoffs. Even I'm Bout It had scenes he stole from Scarface but the movie was supposedly based on a True Story.


I heard I Got The Hook Up 2 was :trash:

Master P was never an artist. He’s not a creative guy. He’s a hustler that would take what works and pass it off as his own. He doesn’t care anything about the actual craft (whether it’s movies, music, etc), which is why he’s never come close to being able to recreate the prime no limit years.

No limit worked, because he was surrounded by talented producers and artists. I don’t even think you can consider him a great talent scout. It was more about signing the hottest local acts, just being the hustler that he is and seeing what worked at the local level and presenting it to the world (ie jacking ice cream man and bout it)

Just look at the talent he would surround himself with everytime he tried to relaunch nolimit. It was nothing but garbage man.

Master p really needed his own “dr Dre.” Someone who is really into the craft and making quality products while he does his thing to push it. You can’t push some of the nonsense he’s attempted to push for over 20 years now.
 

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I've followed Cash Money since the early 90s.

I thought B.G. had more talent than all of them as an emcee he just got caught up and addicted to heroin though. Chopper City and It's All on U Vol. 1 & 2 were classics in my opinion in a time before those guys reverted to a more commercial sound.

Even after he left CMR Life After Cash Money was a criminally underrated album back in 2004.

Turk went on record in a breakfast club interview admitting his own herion addiction as well before he ended up doing a bid.

Wayne was more of Baby trying to salvage what was left of the Hot Boys than trying to make Wayne into the franchise player in my opinion.

Lights Out and 500 Degrees was not up to par with other CMR works. Wayne switched up his style around that time to send started modeling himself more after those East coast cats than a southern emcee.

He didn't really start to get a little following until after the Carter 1, before then Baby was scrambling with lesser acts like Boo & Gotti, TQ, and even Mack 10 came and linked up with them for a while.

Wayne didn't come into his own until several years later.


Wayne was the future and Baby and Slim saw it, before the fans knew it.

He was young and fans liked him. And his skills were improving. The upside was tremendous. The rest of the guys already reached their ceiling and were subtly fading, Mannie included. Baby and Slim saw it before it set the company back. That is what good executives do. Cold, but business.

Again, most people couldn't even see it in hindsight. Baby and Slim saw it in real time. And they were correct by investing in Wayne and not the others, including Mannie. The rest is history.
 

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I've followed Cash Money since the early 90s.

I thought B.G. had more talent than all of them as an emcee he just got caught up and addicted to heroin though. Chopper City and It's All on U Vol. 1 & 2 were classics in my opinion in a time before those guys reverted to a more commercial sound.

Even after he left CMR Life After Cash Money was a criminally underrated album back in 2004.

Turk went on record in a breakfast club interview admitting his own herion addiction as well before he ended up doing a bid.

Wayne was more of Baby trying to salvage what was left of the Hot Boys than trying to make Wayne into the franchise player in my opinion.

Lights Out and 500 Degreez was not up to par with other CMR works. Wayne switched up his style around that time after the 500 Degreez album to send started modeling himself more after those East coast cats than a southern emcee.

He didn't really start to get a little following until after the Carter 1, before then Baby was scrambling with lesser acts like Boo & Gotti, TQ, and even Mack 10 came and linked up with them for a while.

Wayne didn't come into his own until several years later.

Wayne was in artist development right after 500 degrees

That's when they signed mikkey and gillie...I believe that was definitely to bolster Wayne

I dunno about BG over Juvenile:patrice:

Soulja Rags from a rapping standpoint was cold...:wow:
 

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Wayne was in artist development right after 500 degrees

That's when they signed mikkey and gillie...I believe that was definitely to bolster Wayne

I dunno about BG over Juvenile:patrice:

Soulja Rags from a rapping standpoint was cold...:wow:

B.G. was much nicer in my opinion. Juvie made more catchy tracks that were radio friendly and got more spins in the club though.

B.G. was much nicer before they blew up.

Gizzle could have been bigger had somebody put some time, the right producers, and marketing behind him the same with Mac on No Limit.

Very talented emcees.
 

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Them Squad Up mixtapes turned everything around for Cash Money. Before that they was signing dudes like Mickey and Gillie da Kid who wasn't marketable at all. Them Squad Up tapes got Wayne hot.
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Those mixtapes came after CMR had already been trying to establish Wayne more as a solo emcee.
 

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Wayne was the future and Baby and Slim saw it, before the fans knew it.

He was young and fans liked him. And his skills were improving. The upside was tremendous. The rest of the guys already reached their ceiling and were subtly fading, Mannie included. Baby and Slim saw it before it set the company back. That is what good executives do. Cold, but business.

Again, most people couldn't even see it in hindsight. Baby and Slim saw it in real time. And they were correct by investing in Wayne and not the others, including Mannie. The rest is history.

Fresh was pushing for more outside production..that would allow him time to revamp his sound..he the reason jazze came on board...

CMB started blackballing fresh after he left..he missed out on a def jam spot because of baby and slim...

I agree about turk/BG/Juve

It was def moreso money with mannie...

He advised them to sign kanye and ti, so they knew he had an eye for talent
 

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No it’s not a good album

It’s the first time I was disappointed with an album as a kid

There were 29 songs on that album, there were plenty of good songs, just happened to be too many songs for Master P.

B.G. was much nicer in my opinion. Juvie made more catchy tracks that were radio friendly and got more spins in the club though.

B.G. was much nicer before they blew up.

Gizzle could have been bigger had somebody put some time, the right producers, and marketing behind him the same with Mac on No Limit.

Very talented emcees.

B.G.'s flow was incredible all the way up til after Life After Cash Money, and I most def think he was better than Juvenile from a pure rapping standpoint.
 
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