Marvel has yet to make a formidable villian

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Electro might have been the most powerful foes in any of Spidey movies.

Watching that movie I was legit askin myself how is Spidey gonna beat this guy?
yeah but we knew forsure he will beat him and when it Came on to the fight it was as generic as any other movie.
 
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yeah but we knew forsure he will beat him and when it Came on to the fight it was as generic as any other movie.

:comeon:

How is that different from any movie.

Did you think Spidey was gonna lose to Doc Ock in SM2?

Did you think Batman was gonna lose to Bane in TDKR?

Did you think Rocky was gonna lose to Ivan Drago in Rocky IV?

:comeon:
 

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HYDRA is a mothafkn movement! Hail! :blessed:

HYDRA = SHIELD..... if you wanted to be technical, they were working for the bad guys from jump. :manny:

But now we're claiming INVISIBLE/faceless rogues now??? Is that how you want to spin it to save face that Marvel struggles with making credible antagonistic characters???
 

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:comeon:

How is that different from any movie.

Did you think Spidey was gonna lose to Doc Ock in SM2?

Did you think Batman was gonna lose to Bane in TDKR?

Did you think Rocky was gonna lose to Ivan Drago in Rocky IV?

:comeon:
No. Im just saying electro wasn t anything special or new as a villian
 

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:comeon:

How is that different from any movie.

Did you think Spidey was gonna lose to Doc Ock in SM2?

Did you think Batman was gonna lose to Bane in TDKR?

Did you think Rocky was gonna lose to Ivan Drago in Rocky IV?

:comeon:

Spidey AND Bats for the breaks BEAT by their foes. It gave you doubt as to HOW exactly they going to defeat them. You can almost say the same with Rocky, considering Creed was viewed as Rocky's equal and he was killed by Drago. You don't HAVE that kind of doubt in any of the DISNEY/MARVEL films. The closest would be Abomination, yet somehow that movie tends to always get overlooked by Marvel stans.
 
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No. Im just saying electro wasn t anything special or new as a villian

But you also implied that you felt Spidey was never in danger either.

Those are 2 different things.

You might not have liked him but my point was he was portrayed as one of Spidey's most dangerous and powerful enemies.
 

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But you also implied that you felt Spidey was never in danger either.

Those are 2 different things.

You might not have liked him but my point was he was portrayed as one of Spidey's most dangerous and powerful enemies.
no not at all. all villians are portrayed that way in these comic movies. doesnt take anyhing away from what i said.
 
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Spidey AND Bats for the breaks BEAT by their foes. It gave you doubt as to HOW exactly they going to defeat them. You can almost say the same with Rocky, considering Creed was viewed as Rocky's equal and he was killed by Drago. You don't HAVE that kind of doubt in any of the DISNEY/MARVEL films. The closest would be Abomination, yet somehow that movie tends to always get overlooked by Marvel stans.

Yea but who cares really. A lot of the iconic Marvel villains (Magneto, Doom, Apocalypse, Galactus) can't be used. The only reknowned villain that's been utilized up to this point has been Red Skull... and yea he didn't really get the shine he deserved.

But look at the B and C list villains Marvel's been playin around with. Whiplash?? Lol who cares if these guys don't match The Joker. They were never going to. They're fukkin scrub ass villains to begin with. As long as the movies are fun and enjoyable that's all that matters. A movie isn't defined by a singular villain. Cap 2 was amazing and the real villain in that was old ass Robert Redford.
 
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HYDRA = SHIELD..... if you wanted to be technical, they were working for the bad guys from jump. :manny:

But now we're claiming INVISIBLE/faceless rogues now??? Is that how you want to spin it to save face that Marvel struggles with making credible antagonistic characters???

Now we splitting hairs.

SHIELD is an American agency, originating from the government.

HYDRA came from Red Skull and the Nazis.

HYDRA stated they had been infiltrating SHIELD for years, not running it.

And I'm not going to defend bad writing and plots. I love Marvel, but I call it as I see it.
 

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Jack and Heath's Jokers >>>>>>>>>>>> Any Villain Marvel has put out.
shyt I'll even put Michelle Phiffer's Catwoman over a ton of the Marvel Villian's thus far:

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Yea but who cares really. A lot of the iconic Marvel villains (Magneto, Doom, Apocalypse, Galactus) can't be used. The only reknowned villain that's been utilized up to this point has been Red Skull... and yea he didn't really get the shine he deserved.

Look at the B and C list villains Marvel's been playin around with. Whiplash?? Lol who cares if these guys don't match The Joker. They were never going to. They're fukkin scrub ass villains to begin with. As long as the movies are fun and enjoyable that's all that matters. A movie isn't defined by a singular villain. Cap 2 was amazing and the real villain in that was old ass Robert Redford.

Nobody stated the movie was bad due to wack villains just the FACT that they don't have great villains. It's just hilarious that any legit criticism be made about the MCU, people just swoop in as if their own mother been insulted. :camby:

Just concede that Marvel is the Harlem Globetrotters and their rogue gallery is the Washington Generals.
 
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Nobody stated the movie was bad due to wack villains just the FACT that they don't have great villains. It's just hilarious that any legit criticism be made about the MCU, people just swoop in as if their own mother been insulted. :camby:

Just concede that Marvel is the Harlem Globetrotters and their rogue gallery is the Washington Generals.

Lol.
 
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Yea but who cares really. A lot of the iconic Marvel villains (Magneto, Doom, Apocalypse, Galactus) can't be used. The only reknowned villain that's been utilized up to this point has been Red Skull... and yea he didn't really get the shine he deserved.

Look at the B and C list villains Marvel's been playin around with. Whiplash?? Lol who cares if these guys don't match The Joker. They were never going to. They're fukkin scrub ass villains to begin with.
electro is about as big as a jobber as anyone and he looked like a serious threat.

They did a shytty job with manderin...ronan is not a b lister and they nerfed him...and no crimson dynamo...but other "ironmen".

So..theyve either chosen b-list rouges or nerfed down a listers
 

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Now we splitting hairs.

SHIELD is an American agency, originating from the government.

HYDRA came from Red Skull and the Nazis.

HYDRA stated they had been infiltrating SHIELD for years, not running it.

And I'm not going to defend bad writing and plots. I love Marvel, but I call it as I see it.

Yea, it's splitting hairs... but if Hydra has compromised SHIELD for decades, then it is impossible to make out who is who. Especially when both are seeking for the virtual same agenda. Keep in mind Fury, himself, green-lit the program for those hovercraft weaponized surveillance drones for the exact reasons. So, they ARE one and the same hence having the entire SHIELD to be shut down.
 
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