Marvel has yet to make a formidable villian

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Read my post properly and look up the word "formidable". The Winter Soldier was entirely that and also a tragic villain in the film :snoop:.

Tragic or not, he was Faora to Redford's Zod in the movie. And even with THAT Faora >>>> Winter Soldier.
 

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For the record Obadiah did give Tony that Work and he was the Best Iron Man Villain cause Whiplash was only OK and the Maderian was a JOKE, literally.
I'll give you that...
 

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Disney stans are furious.


Even got Fred breaking out rottentomatoes scores when he claims he doesnt put any weight on critics scores or care about them.
 

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Disney stans are furious.


Even got Fred breaking out rottentomatoes scores when he claims he doesnt put any weight on critics scores or care about them.

:umad:

But we staying on thread topic. You DC stans are talking about silly shyt like

:sadcam: we didn't even get a flashback of Ronan when he was a child so we understand why his character is so angry :sadcam:

Y'all just throwing rocks at the throne :banderas:
 

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For the record Obadiah did give Tony that Work and he was the Best Iron Man Villain cause Whiplash was only OK and the Maderian was a JOKE, literally.

All this thread did was end up making me marvel at marvel's (don't even ask me how :wow:) ability to craft villains that have pushed our Heros to the edge :lupe:

Y'all remember when lokis dad put thors daddy on life support :wow: That stress tho :wow:
That was some disrespectful shyt
 
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Yea but who cares really. A lot of the iconic Marvel villains (Magneto, Doom, Apocalypse, Galactus) can't be used. The only reknowned villain that's been utilized up to this point has been Red Skull... and yea he didn't really get the shine he deserved.

But look at the B and C list villains Marvel's been playin around with. Whiplash?? Lol who cares if these guys don't match The Joker. They were never going to. They're fukkin scrub ass villains to begin with. As long as the movies are fun and enjoyable that's all that matters. A movie isn't defined by a singular villain. Cap 2 was amazing and the real villain in that was old ass Robert Redford.
So now magneto and them are marvel? :sas2:
 

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Can we get some appreciation for Howard Saint. Had the Punisher's whole family bodied...unfairly hated on movie. This will not be argued lol
 

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Can we get some appreciation for Howard Saint. Had the Punisher's whole family bodied...unfairly hated on movie. This will not be argued lol

There was still no real danger though...Punisher had no issues putting him away; like I said, if the audience doesn't feel there is a legit threat to the hero, the villain is lackluster, plain and simple. The studios are afraid to push the envelope and actually ENDANGER or KILL their superheroes for one damn movie.
 

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There was still no real danger though...Punisher had no issues putting him away; like I said, if the audience doesn't feel there is a legit threat to the hero, the villain is lackluster, plain and simple. The studios are afraid to push the envelope and actually ENDANGER or KILL their superheroes for one damn movie.

Well to be fair, both Marvel and DC movies have "killed" characters only to have them come back. I wish they'd stop using the trope altogether. I think the audience is smart enough now to realize that the people who are dead won't stay dead so when someone does die, they know not to get involved in the moment because it'll be cheapened in a couple min

Unless that persons name is Gwen Stacy
 

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Well to be fair, both Marvel and DC movies have "killed" characters only to have them come back. I wish they'd stop using the trope altogether. I think the audience is smart enough now to realize that the people who are dead won't stay dead so when someone does die, they know not to get involved in the moment because it'll be cheapened in a couple min

And that's my point. As the comic book movies increase over the next 5-10 years, shyt is gonna get a bit stale if they continue the same tired tropes
 

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And that's my point. As the comic book movies increase over the next 5-10 years, shyt is gonna get a bit stale if they continue the same tired tropes

Unless it's Gwen. Anyone's quibbles with amazing spider-man 2 aside, I give them props for doing what they did because I didn't think they'd do it to be real. And if anyone compares that to Rachel Dawes getting blown up, then :ufdup:
 

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Unless it's Gwen. Anyone's quibbles with amazing spider-man 2 aside, I give them props for doing what they did because I didn't think they'd do it to be real. And if anyone compares that to Rachel Dawes getting blown up, then :ufdup:

Man fukk those side chicks, breh...let's be real here: first on a side note, Maggie Gyllenhaal is a horribly unattractive woman; Rachel's death took her struggle-plate-looking face off the screen for good, so I'm good with that...Gwen's death was not monumental either (u already know how I feel about AS2)...I think that its a chickenshyt way for studios to get out of endangering their heroes...kill off the women, the hero lives, sequel time!
 

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Man fukk those side chicks, breh...let's be real here: first on a side note, Maggie Gyllenhaal is a horribly unattractive woman; Rachel's death took her struggle-plate-looking face off the screen for good, so I'm good with that...Gwen's death was not monumental either (u already know how I feel about AS2)...I think that its a chickenshyt way for studios to get out of endangering their heroes...kill off the women, the hero lives, sequel time!

I feel you on the overall point of killing the females being a cop out because it is. However, I think her death was monumental in the sense of she was an important character in the movie and clearly important to Peter. Bruce seemed like he didn't give a flying fukk about Rachel Dawes, Maggie's attraction notwithstanding. She was barely in Batman Begins and barely in Dark Knight so her dying wasn't a big hit for me although I understand it's importance to the narrative. But again, you're right, it's a copout. The hero will always live tho breh
 
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