Marvel has yet to make a formidable villian

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thanos when he gets the infinity gauntlet in avengers three which is what all these movies are leading up to.. and you clearly have no clue who ultron is...
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You came in here talking out your ass, throwing around the stan card. You don't need to cyber stalk me, I'm telling you point blank you don't know what the fukk you're talking about. And that's easily proven via a simple Search, which you refuse to do because you're trying to save face.

Nice deflection attempt though. :manny:

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I used the term Stan once in response to you whining about people calling you and others who share your opinion on Marvel's villains a stan. How about you follow your own advice and do a search before you start talking out your ass, chief?
And I don't need to deflect or save face because my original opinion on this matter stands...Marvel's cinematic universe has only produced one good villain, the rest are all underdeveloped, lackluster and forgettable.
Whether you are a legit stan or not is something you will need to take up with your local pastor because I really don't give a damn one way or the other.
 

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people also didn't like bane because they felt he was just a pitbull/enforcer for talia......



joker still the goat villian for movies with bane right behind....:ehh:
 

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Actually if you want to be technical most of those villains were formidable. Elf came into thors crib and killed his momma. Whiplash came and fukked all Tonys shyt up and almost killed him on live television. Tonys had to build a whole squad and have his girl save him in the third one cause he was so beat :wow: abomination had nikkas watchin like :lupe: in the streets as he put in work. Rob Redford was on some Benedict Arnold shyt and facilitate the destruction of the country, one of the most disrespectful things you can do to a nikka as patriotic as captain america :wow:

So most of them were formidable. It seems like y'all issues are deeper than rap .... :sas1:

I used the term Stan once in response to you whining about people calling you and others who share your opinion on Marvel's villains a stan. How about you follow your own advice and do a search before you start talking out your ass, chief?
And I don't need to deflect or save face because my original opinion on this matter stands...Marvel's cinematic universe has only produced one good villain, the rest are all underdeveloped, lackluster and forgettable.
Whether you are a legit stan or not is something you will need to take up with your local pastor because I really don't give a damn one way or the other.
Is this a problem movies usually have in general, that we want to harp on marvel about to belittle their achievements as a whole :sas1:

Or is developing a good villain something only marvel struggles with and everyone else nails with ease :sas2:
 
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Is this a problem movies usually have in general, that we want to harp on marvel about to belittle their achievements as a whole :sas1:

Or is developing a good villain something only marvel struggles with and everyone else nails with ease :sas2:
A lot of movies in general drop the ball on villains but it is a glaring issue with Marvel because of how good there movies tend to be except for in this one area.
As far as comic book movies, let's look at say the comic book movies to come out in 2013-2014 and rate the villains in those movies as weak or strong.

Captain America: The Winter Soldier - Alexander Pierce: Weak
X-Men: Days of Future Past - Magneto: Strong
The Amazing Spider-Man 2 - Electro/Goblin: Weak
Guardians of the Galaxy - Ronan: Weak
Iron Man 3 - Aldrich Killian: Weak
Man of Steel - Zod: Strong
Thor: The Dark World - Malekith: Weak
The Wolverine - Yashida: Weak
Kick-Ass 2 - The Motherfukker: Strong
 

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:whew: 4 pages?

But is it not by design for the villians to be built that way as all of the movies are just pieces to a bigger story?
 

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A lot of movies in general drop the ball on villains but it is a glaring issue with Marvel because of how good there movies tend to be except for in this one area.
As far as comic book movies, let's look at say the comic book movies to come out in 2013-2014 and rate the villains in those movies as weak or strong.

Captain America: The Winter Soldier - Alexander Pierce: Weak
X-Men: Days of Future Past - Magneto: Strong
The Amazing Spider-Man 2 - Electro/Goblin: Weak
Guardians of the Galaxy - Ronan: Weak
Iron Man 3 - Aldrich Killian: Weak
Man of Steel - Zod: Strong
Thor: The Dark World - Malekith: Weak
The Wolverine - Yashida: Weak
Kick-Ass 2 - The Motherfukker: Strong


Dude.... How are you even judging who is strong from who is weak? Cuz cuz some what you're saying makes no sense.

@wire28 actually broke it down best and made some of the same points I have been making.


But it just seems like everyone that calls the Marvel villains weak never go into why they think so or how.

You lost me at how the Kick Ass villain is strong but the Dark Elf who's warriors invaded the impregnable Asguard, kill Odin's wife, and took what they wanted weak. Or calling Ronan weak, the same guy that brushed Drax (the by far strongest Guardian) like he was an ant.

Movie by movie, how are these guys weak? Cuz if there is a scale, then on the same scale the Joker would have to be considered weak...... The moment him and Batman ever get in the same room he gets his ass whooped

How is Zod strong? Cuz some buildings got destroyed?
 

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Dude.... How are you even judging who is strong from who is weak? Cuz cuz some what you're saying makes no sense.

@wire28 actually broke it down best and made some of the same points I have been making.


But it just seems like everyone that calls the Marvel villains weak never go into why they think so or how.

You lost me at how the Kick Ass villain is strong but the Dark Elf who's warriors invaded the impregnable Asguard, kill Odin's wife, and took what they wanted weak. Or calling Ronan weak, the same guy that brushed Drax (the by far strongest Guardian) like he was an ant.

Movie by movie, how are these guys weak? Cuz if there is a scale, then on the same scale the Joker would have to be considered weak...... The moment him and Batman ever get in the same room he gets his ass whooped

How is Zod strong? Cuz some buildings got destroyed?
Well you and I are looking at things from an entirely different perspective...I consider a villain strong based off of how well developed the villain is as a character in the movie. You are just going by how powerful the villain is.
Malekith in Thor 2 was one of the worst villains in any movie from 2013. He was just utterly forgettable regardless of how many evil elves he controlled or how much power he derived from that magic red wine he was so desperate to get his hands on.
 

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I agree with this thread. "Winter Solider" was good until it turn into Brokeback Winter Solider at the end. "Thanos" was cool for the 2 minutes we've seen him. I've been very underwhelmed by Mavel's villans. How could anyone give Ronan a pass? He was weak. A real villian would never let someone dance in front of them. Vader would of choked the sh!t out of StarLord, lol.
 

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Well you and I are looking at things from an entirely different perspective...I consider a villain strong based off of how well developed the villain is as a character in the movie. You are just going by how powerful the villain is.
Malekith in Thor 2 was one of the worst villains in any movie from 2013. He was just utterly forgettable regardless of how many evil elves he controlled or how much power he derived from that magic red wine he was so desperate to get his hands on.
But this is about how formidable they are:sas2:
 

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Rachel dawes aint gwen stacey. To your point (and yes i get it) electro was enough of a threat that spiderman had to stop his entire life, reengineer web shooters and fluid, and re engage him...he was destroying shyt and causing casualties in times square and spiderman had to do some death defying shyt in seconds to save lives.

He was formidable
Goblin was formidable.



But ASM2 was allegedly garbage, so, it doesn't count. :beli:
I never got the sense spiderman was in danger and the majority of People feel the same. Electro was underwelming also. And yes asm 2 is shyt and nowhere near as enjoyable as guardians.
 

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A lot of movies in general drop the ball on villains but it is a glaring issue with Marvel because of how good there movies tend to be except for in this one area.
As far as comic book movies, let's look at say the comic book movies to come out in 2013-2014 and rate the villains in those movies as weak or strong.

Captain America: The Winter Soldier - Alexander Pierce: Weak
X-Men: Days of Future Past - Magneto: Strong
The Amazing Spider-Man 2 - Electro/Goblin: Weak
Guardians of the Galaxy - Ronan: Weak
Iron Man 3 - Aldrich Killian: Weak
Man of Steel - Zod: Strong
Thor: The Dark World - Malekith: Weak
The Wolverine - Yashida: Weak
Kick-Ass 2 - The Motherfukker: Strong
Magneto :wow:
 
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I never got the sense spiderman was in danger and the majority of People feel the same. Electro was underwelming also. And yes asm 2 is shyt and nowhere near as enjoyable as guardians.

:wtf:

Electro might have been the most powerful foes in any of Spidey movies.

Watching that movie I was legit askin myself how is Spidey gonna beat this guy?
 
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