Martin Scorsese - Marvel movies are 'not cinema'
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Not hired.
Steven Soderbergh who was in talks with Marvel for a project helped them get the job because unlike him, they had a passion for the comics. And he wouldn't even put a word in for them til they showed him why they were interested beyond trying to turn a profit, so no, it's not Scorcese's point, at all.
Of course they wanted the movies to be successful but they were invested more in bringing the source material to life more than they were quadrants or whatever the fukk. And as I said, people were shedding tears in-theater so the whole human emotion argument is bunk too.
His point, the main point that we're arguing is him saying Marvel movies aren't cinema, which is bullshyt no matter how you frame it.
fukk him being Itallian, old or even a great director. He's salty that nobody besides Netflix, who is fighting for their life against the same company he just tried to invalidate, would give him Spider-man Far From Home money for his film, period point blank. And the only reason why we been going back and forth on this is because you said he wasn't worried about anything when he clearly is.
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AnonymityX1000
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Too bad he doesn't post here to enjoy it.People usually use exaggeration to get other people upset. Seems like that tactic worked for Scorsese pretty well.
This is funny lol
I'm a wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy bigger fan of 2pac than I am of Eminem, who I got into because I was writing rhymes and was inspired by his pen.
I also love quite a few Scorsese movies as much if not more than I love the Marvel flicks.
:colehuh:You definitely upset.S'all good though, it does sting when people attack shyt you like.
Why does it ALWAYS feel like its the ones other than the MARVEL fans that take this shyt the most serious?
Okay I didn't know who you were talking about because you didn't clarify it was Soderbergh. Here's the bottom line though: Soderbergh put the word in for them, but he isn't the one sitting them down in a boardroom meeting going "Alright, Russo Bros, to get that China gwap, this is what's gonna have to happen in your movie" and then going through a checklist. Clearly the Russos were the best men for the job, but I'm just of the personal belief that when big corporations get involved in something that's an art form, a little bit of the heart and soul gets sucked out of the finished product. When you're following a formula, the shyt is always gonna end up being just a little bit formulaic. Even if its still mostly successful.
That's sad, though. It's sad that no one would give him the money when he's not just a great director but also a director whose films usually turns a profit. Shutter Island and Wolf of Wall Street made a lot of cake...then he's attaching three of the most legendary actors of all time to the new project, all working together for the first time ever, to sweeten the deal and they still don't want to put up the dough. If I put in fifty years into this thing and was then brushed aside for the current trends, I'd be fukking bitter too.
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Why does it ALWAYS feel like its the ones other than the MARVEL fans that take this shyt the most serious?
Dawg I was trying to find common ground with you lol.
Some people literally take themselves as serious as that guy.So now all movies aimed at kids (as well as adults) are inferior to movies just aimed at adults? Some of you just try too hard to be above it all.
Next we gonna have someone come in here and say they only watch documentaries that's how mature and elitist they are.
nikkas legit limit themselves with that thinking. Thinking they are "mature" not realizing how juvenile they really are.
I don't even like superheros. But that logic is so try hard and childish.
My point is I doubt he gives a fukk about comic movies, across the board.
The only reason he was thinking about exec producing "Joker", is it's not your typical comic movie. But cats came in the thread on some
"he hates the MCU" like he gives a fukk about DC, or Sony movies. In light of his recent interview he clearly has disdain for the entire genre. Fred.
That's not the interview everyone is talking about and you know it. The one that has all the Marvel dorks outraged is the Empire one. Stop trying to conflate two different interviews.
C'mon man.
The highest grossing movie of all time is a comic book movie. "Aqua Man" did $1 billion. "Captain Marvel" did $1 billion. "Venom" did $900 mill or whatever. The MCU has 7 or 8 movies that did over $1 billion.
Dude did an interview talking about "yeah, there's too many blockbusters, my shyt couldn't get funded" and another interview talking about "comic movies aren't cinema"....and you seriously think the two are unrelated?
It's like....c'mon man. Connect the dots breh.
Fred.
That’s one of the best parts about those complaints. nikkas complaining about there being continuity in a 20+ movie saga
MajesticLion
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Let me make this simple for you:
"I don't like fried chicken and collard greens."
"Fried chicken and collard greens are not food."
They're not the same statement.
Because it’s true:colehuh:
Why does it ALWAYS feel like its the ones other than the MARVEL fans that take this shyt the most serious?
like a moth to flame they swarm to anything with a whiff of marvel scent to voice their displeasure, usually (and ironically) bordering on psychiatric levels of delusion and obsession like Phoenix’s Joker :megamarvel:
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My point is I doubt he gives a fukk about comic movies, across the board.
The only reason he was thinking about exec producing "Joker", is it's not your typical comic movie. But cats came in the thread on some
Fred.
that's his prerogative, though. You can not like a genre as a whole but still be recognize a good or bad one in said genre. However, the fact that he even sat down to even watch a few as he mentioned I think he is indifferent to the genre and watch on a case by case basis. To say he doesn't like comic book movies as a whole just because of his critique of the MCU films he saw is putting words in his mouth to fit a narrative that suits you.
C'mon man.
The highest grossing movie of all time is a comic book movie. "Aqua Man" did $1 billion. "Captain Marvel" did $1 billion. "Venom" did $900 mill or whatever. The MCU has 7 or 8 movies that did over $1 billion.
Dude did an interview talking about "yeah, there's too many blockbusters, my shyt couldn't get funded" and another interview talking about "comic movies aren't cinema"....and you seriously think the two are unrelated?
It's like....c'mon man. Connect the dots breh.
Fred.
Again, the two are not mutually exclusive. Scorsese is a 76 year old film nerd into preserving old films, so maybe he just doesn't fukk with mainstream blockbusters made for a different generation.