Martin Scorsese - Marvel movies are 'not cinema'

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After all the comic book reboot and crossover (variant covers) madness of the mid-90s, I lost interest in comic book stories, so aside from the occasional show or comic movie I get in to, I'm no longer invested in the content being created, but I agree that there's enough content to be mined for a long time, but that doesn't mean the creatives behind these projects won't muck it up. See Alex Kurtzman's Spider-Man or the Dark Universe (or anything he touches including Star Trek :( ).

There's two arguments here, there's the commercial and the artistic. Why did Westerns die-off and get played out is somewhat a different discussion than the artistic decline of Westerns. I like spaghetti westerns of the 60s and the karate (billy jack) and comedy/parody westerns of the 70s. I like sci-fi inspired westerns like Firefly.

There was still good material there, but westerns and movie-going were so popular in the 50s that they had double features and all sorts gimmicky low grade "cinema" being made to fill the demand. There were other factors that killed the big studios and movie-going back then but with all the of remakes, genre spectacle flicks, and even 3D movies being made again, it does make you wonder what kind of moment we're in.

We're in a moment where TV is by far the better medium for telling stories.

Marvel TV has way more potential than what they've done with the movies thus far IMO.

right, you won't get a good answer because comic book movies are obviously cinema too, just a cheap shot for who knows what reason.. I really don't get people who look down on others for their taste in movies/music/art etc. In the end it's just entertainment.

As I said, people think that people who have reputation and money are, or at least should be above such petty things. But his latest piece of 'cinema' ain't in theaters like he wants it to be because not enough people would go see that shyt to justify the budget. How far fetched is it to say that might have influenced his comments?

We needed to make an expensive picture,” says Scorsese. “The movie business is changing hour by hour — not necessarily for the better — and many of the places we would have gone to for funding in the past were no longer viable. Then we started talking to Netflix. We agreed on everything, most importantly that we all wanted to make the same movie. So we went forward.”

"....Scorsese made The Irishman at Netflix largely because it was the only place the movie could get made"

Why Martin Scorsese Made ‘The Irishman’ for Netflix

He's standing in the same line with a bunch of other people from hollyweird lamenting the success "marvel movies" and how unfair it is that nobody wants to give them Guardians of the galaxy budgets for some shyt nobody is going to be racing to go see.

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right, you won't get a good answer because comic book movies are obviously cinema too, just a cheap shot for who knows what reason.. I really don't get people who look down on others for their taste in movies/music/art etc. In the end it's just entertainment.
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The rap analogy is trash. Hip hop has a specific cultural appeal and contains tons of variety so its impossible to paint the whole genre. Comic book movies are big budget commercial products, mass produced by 2 giant corporations. If anything they should be compared to Lou Perlman style boy band POP MUSIC

You called the rap analogy trash and followed it up with one that's worse:mjlol:
 

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We're in a moment where TV is by far the better medium for telling stories.

Marvel TV has way more potential than what they've done with the movies thus far IMO.

Well, I have seen a bunch if not all of the marvel tv shows and I do enjoy them but why did Netflix end/cancel a bunch?
 

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Well, I have seen a bunch if not all of the marvel tv shows and I do enjoy them but why did Netflix end/cancel a bunch?

Netflix canceled their Marvel licensed shows because news came out that they were about to open up their own competing streaming service (Disney +). Marvel Studios is about to start making HBO level budget type shows of their own with their characters that are cannon to the MCU and probably dial back on the frequency of the movies a bit as they get more content rolling.
 
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A lot of old school musicians didn't think rap was real music back in the day either.:yeshrug:(Some still don't.)

It's his opinion. Enjoy what you enjoy and KIM.

Exactly fam, what's the point of getting worked over it? People are too sensitive.
 

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Eh. His biggest movie world wide was 392 million. His biggest domestic is only 132 million. All four of his 100 million US grosses star Leo. Take Leo out of it and his biggest grossing movie is 73 million. I’d say that the statement about the masses is fairly accurate.

Martin Scorsese Movie Box Office Results

He’s still a good director, but he’s def not appealing to the masses.
nikka, every dude has seen Goodfellas, Casino, Departed, Taxi Driver, and maybe Raging Bull :comeon:
 
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p*ssy ass marveL and disney sheep BIG MAD..

REAL directors dont give a shyt bout that mid-cu bullshyt

cookie cutter big budget adverts for toys and grooming soft ass sheep..

imagine raising a child who became a disney/marveL stan :scust:
 
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Still don’t understand what he has to be envious about in this sense. The man can make any movie he wants at this point, he’s got awards on the shelf, made millions, and made flicks people have talked about for 40 years now. He’s going down in history as one of the greatest of all time. Someone asked his opinion and he gave it. You can have that opinion without any ill will. A lot of us have opinions on movies and music and tv shows but don’t feel envious about the shyt. I think a lot of rap nikkas are wack but in no way do I want their lives lol. But if someone asks me how I feel about any rapper, I’m going to give my opinion.

Everyone can give an opinion. But if random coli poster gives an opinion, ok cool.. nobody really cares. Martin Scorsese gives an opinion and it's news and we are all talking about his opinion.. Why? Because he is a legendary director..

So the fact that people are gonna try to say "he has his opinion and I have mine" or he's just a guy like you and I, no he's not...it is a worthless take. Our opinions aren't news. :manny:
 
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