As a person who has a cousin who is apart of the NOI, I can add support to this post. She herself even admitted that, "I'm not even that religious."
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As a person who has a cousin who is apart of the NOI, I can add support to this post. She herself even admitted that, "I'm not even that religious."
David_TheMan
Banned
They are heavy into conversion, atleast with the ones I came into consistant contact with.
Its enough to help, but when you always hear about "bro. muhammad says.." and etc, I think it puts people off who might want to be down but not hear the constant harping on the faith.
Red Shield
Global Domination
AGAIN, lets just please stay on topic or I'm moving everyone's posts. I don't want to do that.
I didn't wanna have to do this...
Point blank there is an issue on this site of people being insecure. People only embrace "Black" or "African" history when it fits their narrative. You have people who will big up some historic event on some "our history
I didn't wanna have to do this...
" stuff and then on the next topic "we did this not y'all 
".You got too many cats trying to hide under the guise of "Black Empowerment" if dudes want only care about their "ethnic groups" more power to them, but the main dudes who stay trying to pop off these pissing contest of who did more in history do it because they arent doing a damn thing off line so this is where they go to make themselves feel better. If people actually understood the history that went down you wouldn't see all these idiotic debates.
Point blank there is an issue on this site of people being insecure. People only embrace "Black" or "African" history when it fits their narrative. You have people who will big up some historic event on some "our history
You got too many cats trying to hide under the guise of "Black Empowerment" if dudes want only care about their "ethnic groups" more power to them, but the main dudes who stay trying to pop off these pissing contest of who did more in history do it because they arent doing a damn thing off line so this is where they go to make themselves feel better. If people actually understood the history that went down you wouldn't see all these idiotic debates.
We're on topic now. So lets drop it or continue it to the thread where I moved you guys posts.
Field Marshall Bradley
Veteran
yeah they pretty much control the narrative with MLK and now Malcolm. People love quoting Malcolm's letter from Mecca nowadays. The Fundamental difference between MLK and the NOI is that MLK felt there was a chance for Blacks to Coexist with Whites while the NOI Wanted complete separation WITHIN the USA being that Blacks Built America so they shouldn't have to "go back to Africa".
Agreed. Not to step on any toes, but I use to be one of those who believed Malcolm X's plans were the ONLY good plans, while MLK while he had good intentions was more for white acceptance. But when my ass actually DID more research I found that MLK's final plan i.e the Poor Peoples campaign would have probably had a greater impact than any of Malcolm's plan. X is still one of my FAVORITE black historical figures, but I think MLK's plan would have actually hurt white supremacy more and benefited us more.
David_TheMan
Banned
He was an avowed white integrationist just like his partner Rustin.
Not hating, but that is what he was about
MLK met with Elijah in 1966
And yet the mainstream media tries to spin it like MLK and the NOI were "rivals."
Rustin was an integrationist yes, MLK imo was more so (at least from what I see and came to the conclusion) is we have to be realistic and more so fight with what we have and make it work in the environment we are in while the NOI was like eff that, COMPLETE separation.