Low key Jay-Z kind of messed up Hip Hop...
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Clark Griswold
Banned
Reasonable Doubt flopped in 96... that shyt didn’t sell outside of NYC. If it wasn’t for the “Ain’t no nikka” no one would have heard of Jay Z back then and that’s only cause the sibgle was in the nutty professor...
Jay started to blow up in 98 when Vol. 2 came out... all of those singles ... “can I get a...”, “money, cash, hoes”, “hard knock life”...
Jay reached his peak at blueprint and hasn’t done anything great since... and blueprint wasn’t as great as people make it out to be, IMO..
He took biggies spot for the KONY cause NaS is a pothead with no business acumen.
Jay started to blow up in 98 when Vol. 2 came out... all of those singles ... “can I get a...”, “money, cash, hoes”, “hard knock life”...
Jay reached his peak at blueprint and hasn’t done anything great since... and blueprint wasn’t as great as people make it out to be, IMO..
He took biggies spot for the KONY cause NaS is a pothead with no business acumen.
Nawl.
If anything, Jeezy had every dopeboy/wannabe dopeboy touching the mic
If anything, Jeezy had every dopeboy/wannabe dopeboy touching the mic
Razor Reader
Formerly -----
Reasonable Doubt went gold. Then like a year later and went platinum. Ain't No nikka went platinum by myself as a single. The album was not flop by any means.
The rest the rest of what you said for the most part I agree with...
Hungerpain
Banned
It's funny because the south dont even hold them in high regard like that.
Prior to Jay Z rappers sound broke AF. Jay sound like a rich dude for real. I’m 34. I used to read all the magazines around his 1st album. There was a aura about him and his past. He was kind of mythical with his street past. Because unlike Biggie, Pac, & Nas debuts it didn’t seem like Jay “needed” rap.
So that persona fit him so well as a hustler. I be lol when people say the only reason he hot was because Big & Pac died. Why Nas, DMX, Wu, Snoop, Cube, LL, Mase, and whoever else didn’t get that spot? They all were much bigger. Why was Jay thrown to the top? It wasn’t like he had a machine behind him that they all didn’t.
Detractors downplay Jay “but but RD wasn’t popping” the shyt went gold in the midst of 2PAC domination of 96’. In 97’ Hov was plat. By 98’ the throne was his. So saying all that yes Jay influenced the game in a bad way. The product just became more water down version of the last guy the bit his style. Now we are here and the music is all bad
So that persona fit him so well as a hustler. I be lol when people say the only reason he hot was because Big & Pac died. Why Nas, DMX, Wu, Snoop, Cube, LL, Mase, and whoever else didn’t get that spot? They all were much bigger. Why was Jay thrown to the top? It wasn’t like he had a machine behind him that they all didn’t.
Detractors downplay Jay “but but RD wasn’t popping” the shyt went gold in the midst of 2PAC domination of 96’. In 97’ Hov was plat. By 98’ the throne was his. So saying all that yes Jay influenced the game in a bad way. The product just became more water down version of the last guy the bit his style. Now we are here and the music is all bad
Razor Reader
Formerly -----
Naw breh. Jay was on priority at the time. When he signed to Def Jam is when he started getting a real buzz. New York wasn't even fukking wit Jay Z like that around then. You went from huge in philly to low key hits
Ain't no nikka ain't go platinum let alone gold
Reasonable Doubt didn't go platinum until 6 years later
If you're gonna make a Jay-Z thread saying he "messed up hip hop low key" at least get your facts straight
Razor Reader
Formerly -----
Naw breh. Jay was on priority at the time. When he signed to Def Jam is when he started getting a real buzz. New York wasn't even fukking wit Jay Z like that around then. You went from huge in philly to low key hits
Ain't no nikka ain't go platinum let alone gold
Reasonable Doubt didn't go platinum until 6 years later
If you're gonna make a Jay-Z thread saying he "messed up hip hop low key" at least get your facts straight
stop dude. Just stop.
MIKE SPLEAN
Superstar
Hov Diddy and Master P
Black Lightning
Superstar
datnigDASTARDLY
catching pigeons
Didn't read past page one, but your not describing jigga breh, ice t was before him with the whole "I'm a Hustler not a rapper" gimmic 
Hungerpain
Banned
Own it nikka.
Yall murdered this shyt.
Atleast be on some "so?
" shyt about it.nikkas wanna call for the rock,airball then say it went it like everybody is blind or some shyt.
Verbal Kint
Superstar
Nah, crack changed hip hop. Rap was always giving voice to young men from the hood. The 80s saw the level of violence and drugs in the hood skyrocket and the cats in that era were different from the ones before. More cats were hustling than ever because there were more drugs, more money to be made selling them AND far more broken families and absentee parents who were strung out or locked up. Those 70s babies that came up hustling in 80s and early 90s brought that to hip hop and it wouldve happened regardless of what JayZ did. Shoot Id say Master P did more to contribute to that attitude than anyone cause he clearly couldnt rap but hustled his way to the top. Puff, Baby, 50, Jeezy, all them followed more the example of P than Jay