Low key Jay-Z kind of messed up Hip Hop...

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[FeloniousMonk]

Something about Kendrick Lamar..

Im not going to bash and knock you opinion in that vein, yet why couldnt he just be a young brother coming into knowledge an interpolate some of his learnings into his rhymes?

 

[UpAndComing]

Im not going to bash and knock you opinion in that vein, yet why couldnt he just be a young brother coming into knowledge an interpolate some of his learnings into his rhymes?

You're making my point. If he's a young brother trying to make sense of the stuff he's learning, then he shouldn't be polluting that confusion to the masses. Let the more experienced Black men to tackle those topics then

 

[Illeye buckmatic]

NaS is the goat:naswon:

 

[Derekjackson2]

Reasonable Doubt was respected because of the lyrics & production. Jay Z’s image was raw & getting with Bad Boy polished him up during Volume 1. Compared to other artist during that time Jay Z wasn’t grimy like DMX & Mobb Deep but not flashy like Bad Boy. Even the Lox fell thru the cracks & their album was good. Volume 2 had hits then Jay Z took off from there.

 

[The Amerikkkan Idol]

Perhaps y'all weren't fully aware at the time. Maybe you were like 3 and you're extrapolating.

The change was NWA.

Before NWA there were 67 types of rap from happy to conscious to rappity rap to party muic to war music to love rap.

After NWA everything was gangsta rap.

JZ isn't special as far as his worldview or approach. By the time of RD this change was in full swing.

THAT'S WHY JZ IS GANSTA RAPPER INSTEAD OF A RAPPITY RAPPER

You know JZ likes to spit that rapid fire shyt (he hasn't written anything like that since early on that I can remember).

Hawaiian Sophie was the opposite of gangsta rap. They he switched to it exclusively just like Hip Hop itself did.

Dude, NWA changed a lot, but they didn't ruin Hip-Hop

They only lasted 4 years from 87-91.

That's EXACTLY the same as Public Enemy's prime. Their primes overlapped. They didn't cancel them out.

Hell, Tribe, De La, LL, and a ton of other Hip-Hop groups kept going and making hits long after NWA broke up after "nikkaz4Life", so no everything wasn't "gangsta rap" after NWA

Why do people say this about Kendrick? Most of the time, he's rapping about his own personal experiences. If he's fake deep, who would be an example of legit deep?

Because they're just haters.

Ice T had the hustler turned rapper persona in 1987. Groups like tribe & de la became less popular because radio were allowed to play more hip hop in the late 90’s causing other races of listeners to grow up on the music. Whites & Asians just won’t buy pro black music but will buy movie script type street music out of curiosity. Jay z helped hip hop if anything. Black owned record label with black executives set a tone.

This is actually an underrated opinion in the sense that Whites, Asians, Latinos, etc. . .were never gonna gravitate toward pro-Black music, so once they became the overwhelming majority of Hip-Hop fans, Hip-Hop was bound to steer away from Black consciousness.

But in terms of Black ownership, Jay-Z if anything sold out to guys like Lyor Cohen and them.

Guys like J. Prince, Suge Knight, Tony Draper, and Master P had WAYYYYYY more control than Jay did and all of them predate Jay as well, and unlike Jay, they kept it Black, instead of going corporate.

 

[Ghost Utmost]

Dude, NWA changed a lot, but they didn't ruin Hip-Hop

They only lasted 4 years from 87-91.

That's EXACTLY the same as Public Enemy's prime. Their primes overlapped. They didn't cancel them out.

Hell, Tribe, De La, LL, and a ton of other Hip-Hop groups kept going and making hits long after NWA broke up after "nikkaz4Life", so no everything wasn't "gangsta rap" after NWA



Because they're just haters.



This is actually an underrated opinion in the sense that Whites, Asians, Latinos, etc. . .were never gonna gravitate toward pro-Black music, so once they became the overwhelming majority of Hip-Hop fans, Hip-Hop was bound to steer away from Black consciousness.

But in terms of Black ownership, Jay-Z if anything sold out to guys like Lyor Cohen and them.

Guys like J. Prince, Suge Knight, Tony Draper, and Master P had WAYYYYYY more control than Jay did and all of them predate Jay as well, and unlike Jay, they kept it Black, instead of going corporate.

Things didn't change instantly once NWA came out.

But it obviously happened.