RD wasn't even that big an album, like the jigga stans would like you to believe. This started during the West Coast surge.
Low key Jay-Z kind of messed up Hip Hop...
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RD wasn't even that big an album, like the jigga stans would like you to believe. This started during the West Coast surge.
Razor Reader
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He was being himself....Was he supposed to rap like Brand Nubian?
He was a caked up dopeboy with Versace swagger. Wtf was he supposed to rap about. Blame the people who weren't being authentic and true to themselves.
Well wasn't just him but a lot of people start jumping on that bandwagon.
I remember Nas even talking crazy about Tribe Called Quest because it was a street Nigggas. They where setting a bad precedence.
Notice you started seeing the cat blows, tribe called quest's, they lostCalled quest's, de la souls fade from the scene around the late 90s early 2000s.
notice you started seeing more lackluster east coast rappers that was being put on by they boys like Memphis Bleek
.Simple fact that nikka Memphis Bleek thought he could even stand next to Nas
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Razor Reader
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I wouldn't call De La Soul or Tribe Called Quest, digable planets wack.
Like I said really wasn't what he said it was the attitude that he had toward the art form.
Let's just keep it a buck. Rap was basically clinging to life circa 96' - 97'.
After Pac and Big died that is when you had this mass infiltration of rappers wanting to be thugs/ballers, etc in the spirit of Pac and Big.
Master P.
Trick Daddy
The Hot Boyz
Mase
etc, etc.
The only reason Jay Z was promoted to the crown despite being the trash that he is, is because New York needed to reinsert itself again as the birth place and mecca of Hip Hop.
New York needed their messiah of Hip Hop after Bigs death and Jay Z was it.New York cats love to act as if Pac and the West Coast had not obliterated mainstream NY rap circa 93'-96'.
Brehs love revisionist history
Razor Reader
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This started during the West Coast surge.
Reasonable Doubt was huge in Philly I mean gigantic. Around the country it wasn't that big.
Razor Reader
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Not really. Like I said you had a few dudes on the west coast that had that energy but that's it.
Razor Reader
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Let's just keep it a buck. Rap was basically clinging to life circa 96' - 97'.
After Pac and Big died that is when you had this mass infiltration of rappers wanting to be thugs/ballers, etc in the spirit of Pac and Big.
Master P.
Trick Daddy
The Hot Boyz
Mase
etc, etc.
The only reason Jay Z was promoted to the crown despite being the trash that he is, is because New York needed to reinsert itself again as the birth place and mecca of Hip Hop.
New York cats love to act as if Pac and the West Coast had not obliterated mainstream NY rap circa 93'-96'.
Brehs love revisionist history
Actually Jay-Z fill the void that biggie left.
That gang banging shiit cause the west coast to implode on itself. Low-key they would have still ran hip hop today.
You got a billion dollar industry by the balls and he went to kill each other over colors.
Unbelievable.But you have some damn good hip hop coming out of East Coast between 92 to 95. Artistically speaking hip hop is New York.
Yeah this plenty of great records from all around the country that are great but truthfully hip hop belongs in New York . It's it belongs to them and they traditionally do it the best bottom line.
bammtronics
man sit 'cho ass down!
The "lanes" were reduced when the sub-labels and indies started getting swallowed up/phased out
MOST SOUTHERN RAPPERS WAS ON THAT shyt BEFORE ANYBODY ELSE.
Kairi Irving
Here Comes A New Challenger
As much as i like Wayne
....He ruined Hip Hop
Everyone in some shape or form looks like Wayne and does drugs
....He ruined Hip Hop
Everyone in some shape or form looks like Wayne and does drugs
I HAD TO STOP AND THINK. NOPE. IT WAS THE FANS WHO fukkED UP HIP HOP. WE LET THEM PEDDLE THIS DUMB ASS MARKETING ON US.
Razor Reader
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No the fukk it was not
Yes it was. At least with the hustlers it was. Not only that but it was one of those Slow Burn albums that really took a while to take off.
Agrees with this here... Jay wasn't the first or hottest one saying that shyt, dudes in every region was doing it...Let's just keep it a buck. Rap was basically clinging to life circa 96' - 97'.
After Pac and Big died that is when you had this mass infiltration of rappers wanting to be thugs/ballers, etc in the spirit of Pac and Big.
Master P.
Trick Daddy
The Hot Boyz
Mase
etc, etc.
The only reason Jay Z was promoted to the crown despite being the trash that he is, is because New York needed to reinsert itself again as the birth place and mecca of Hip Hop.
New York cats love to act as if Pac and the West Coast had not obliterated mainstream NY rap circa 93'-96'.
Brehs love revisionist history
Disagrees with this... Aside from saying they started it, no.... It doesn't belong to NY, hasn't for a long time & them doing it best is your opinion, not bottom line...
NoChillJones
Banned
You can blame Jay for ushering in the era of "Jiggy" rap. That has long persisted in the genre since his debut