Lord of The Rings: Rings of Power TV Series - Season 2 (August. 29. 2024/Official Thread)

[Velvet_Ace]

I actually really enjoyed both episodes thus far, really engrossing. The visuals are stunning and the cast is doing a great job, everyone is convincing in their roles. Too bad the Tolkien estate didn't give Amazon the rights for the Silmarillion, so much of the lore can't be shown. And it's lore that I think is important to understand the stakes. Made me go on youtube binge to refresh my memory, i strongly advise anyone interested to take a look at least at Tolkien's myth of creation in the Silmarillion and how Middle-Earth was created. From a pure writing/creative standpoint it's quite a fascinating storytelling.

Spoiler: Only thing I didn't like

Only thing I thought was weird was Galadriel jumping from the boat.

Anyone concerned about the backlash online should really take a look, the criticism is as usual overblown because of the few non-white cast members.

 

[KalKal]

I actually really enjoyed both episodes thus far, really engrossing. The visuals are stunning and the cast is doing a great job, everyone is convincing in their roles. Too bad the Tolkien estate didn't give Amazon the rights for the Silmarillion, so much of the lore can't be shown. And it's lore that I think is important to understand the stakes. Made me go on youtube binge to refresh my memory, i strongly advise anyone interested to take a look at least at Tolkien's myth of creation in the Silmarillion and how Middle-Earth was created. From a pure writing/creative standpoint it's quite a fascinating storytelling.

Spoiler: Only thing I didn't like

Only thing I thought was weird was Galadriel jumping from the boat.

Anyone concerned about the backlash online should really take a look, the criticism is as usual overblown because of the few non-white cast members.

Do Elves have infinite endurance/stamina? If so, its not THAT bad

Spoiler

if she knows for a fact that she can swim for days without drowning.

 

[Velvet_Ace]

Do Elves have infinite endurance/stamina? If so, its not THAT bad

Spoiler

if she knows for a fact that she can swim for days without drowning.

Compared to men elves are stronger, more agile and their senses are way sensitive. Their vision is often compared to birds of prey and their hearing is also increased and they can... sense shyt. If you dig even deeper into the lore, elves actually have a control over their soul/spirit and that's what makes them stronger than men because they're moving in the physical ream and the spiritual plane.

But I digress

Spoiler: why I din't like it

I didn't like it from a character standpoint. I get that this is a far younger Galadriel and I'm glad that they're showing us her past as a warrior but I dunno... I get that the writers wanted this scene to add tension and show some inner-conflict but I thought it was quite impulsive, and not very well planned from her. But hey we'll see in the long run.

 

[Fillerguy]

I hope they give the ARod elf more to do than frown about.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

I actually really enjoyed both episodes thus far, really engrossing. The visuals are stunning and the cast is doing a great job, everyone is convincing in their roles. Too bad the Tolkien estate didn't give Amazon the rights for the Silmarillion, so much of the lore can't be shown. And it's lore that I think is important to understand the stakes. Made me go on youtube binge to refresh my memory, i strongly advise anyone interested to take a look at least at Tolkien's myth of creation in the Silmarillion and how Middle-Earth was created. From a pure writing/creative standpoint it's quite a fascinating storytelling.

Wait, they're doing this without the Silmarillion? That's wild, I had assumed that's what it was all going to be based on.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Nah, they just bothered to see non-white faces in their fantasies. It wasn't even a big deal. It's one of those "hmmm" moments when you see a non-white elf and then your brain moves on and you accept it as part of the story. It's really not a big deal. I mean we're talking about dwarves and elves.

It's not the usual thing we've seen 100x in the past so there's always gonna be resistance. Big deal. The major question for the underlying issue is, "is the Tolkien world based on a white world?". Tolkien wrote that shyt during his time in England surrounded by nothing but white folks so I bet in his head, the world he created reflected that.

Is it so wrong to switch up the characters a bit? I'm sure he didn't imagine lots of details that were added or changed in the original LOTR movies. Do we have to keep it white to be true to his story?

It's not even switching them up, Tolkien apparently hated racism and purposely avoided giving race to any of this characters. When he was asked whether his characters were White or non-White he refused to answer:


“I have the hatred of apartheid in my bones; and most of all I detest the segregation or separation of Language and Literature. I do not care which of them you think White."

 

[pez]

It's not even switching them up, Tolkien apparently hated racism and purposely avoided giving race to any of this characters. When he was asked whether his characters were White or non-White he refused to answer:


“I have the hatred of apartheid in my bones; and most of all I detest the segregation or separation of Language and Literature. I do not care which of them you think White."

Interesting. Didn’t know that

 

[Velvet_Ace]

Wait, they're doing this without the Silmarillion? That's wild, I had assumed that's what it was all going to be based on.

Yeah. It's even weirder considereing the fact that Tolkien's work will enter public domain in 25 years. The estate really missed an opportunity to make bank.

 

[Soymuscle Mike]

Compared to men elves are stronger, more agile and their senses are way sensitive. Their vision is often compared to birds of prey and their hearing is also increased and they can... sense shyt. If you dig even deeper into the lore, elves actually have a control over their soul/spirit and that's what makes them stronger than men because they're moving in the physical ream and the spiritual plane.

But I digress

Spoiler: why I din't like it

I didn't like it from a character standpoint. I get that this is a far younger Galadriel and I'm glad that they're showing us her past as a warrior but I dunno... I get that the writers wanted this scene to add tension and show some inner-conflict but I thought it was quite impulsive, and not very well planned from her. But hey we'll see in the long run.

They dramatized a brief Tolkien quote, I liked it visually but it's a huge stretch from what I think Tolkien envisioned for Galadriel:

Spoiler

"at the end of the first age she proudly refused forgiveness or permission to return".

Pretty sure he meant that she never even would've set foot on the boat. So I kind of agree that it didn't really fit, even though I can forgive it for the visuals we got out of it.

 

[Artificial Intelligence]

Edit: Nevermind I still haven’t started lol

 

[pez]

They dramatized a brief Tolkien quote, I liked it visually but it's a huge stretch from what I think Tolkien envisioned for Galadriel:

Spoiler

"at the end of the first age she proudly refused forgiveness or permission to return".

Pretty sure he meant that she never even would've set foot on the boat. So I kind of agree that it didn't really fit, even though I can forgive it for the visuals we got out of it.

Kind of disappointed by her lack of bosom coming out of the water. But she’s damn pretty.

 

[Brandsdale]

Him and Legolas reminded me of Shadow of war so much with one main captain orc who's pissed to keep coming backThis fight was dope I wish the hobbit didn't have to use so much cgi but I understand there was mad production issues

that joint any good?

this show got me wanting to start playing this shyt again

 

[Ironman]

that joint any good?

this show got me wanting to start playing this shyt again

Celebrimbor brings fukkery in the Shadow seriesOrcs cutting promos on Talion left and right cause you apparently removed their arm or killed a sibling and didn't realize it

 

[Th3G3ntleman]

I love how whimsical and relaxing this shyt is. Just feels like a fun watch. Like I'm playing one of those fantasy RPGs and shyt.

 

[Deafheaven]

It's not even switching them up, Tolkien apparently hated racism and purposely avoided giving race to any of this characters. When he was asked whether his characters were White or non-White he refused to answer:


“I have the hatred of apartheid in my bones; and most of all I detest the segregation or separation of Language and Literature. I do not care which of them you think White."

I didn't know this, thats dope.