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just started. @TheDarceKnight Are you the same poster from reddit? Got any tips for a complete beginner. I was going to train at AOJ but it was too far from my house so i signed up with 10th planet. Im having a great time. Only been going a few days, today will be 5. Anyway yeah if you or anyone has any tips id appreciate it. Right now this is the video thats helped me out the most. I watch it three times a day.

 

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just started. @TheDarceKnight Are you the same poster from reddit? Got any tips for a complete beginner. I was going to train at AOJ but it was too far from my house so i signed up with 10th planet. Im having a great time. Only been going a few days, today will be 5. Anyway yeah if you or anyone has any tips id appreciate it. Right now this is the video thats helped me out the most. I watch it three times a day.


Did they make you pay money for 3 private classes before they let you sign up at the school, friend?
 

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Did they make you pay money for 3 private classes before they let you sign up at the school, friend?
No first class was free then I signed up right after. 130 bucks a month is that a lot?:ld: unlimited classes
 

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No first class was free then I signed up right after. 130 bucks a month is that a lot?:ld: unlimited classes

O. When I went there Eddie bravo told me I had to take 3 privates at 75 dollars a piece before I could sign up. But this was 10 years ago. I took 1 private and realized I was being played and went to another Academy. :mjpls:

130 a month unlimited is a good price, friend. Same price I pay.
 

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O. When I went there Eddie bravo told me I had to take 3 privates at 75 dollars a piece before I could sign up. But this was 10 years ago. I took 1 private and realized I was being played and went to another Academy. :mjpls:

130 a month unlimited is a good price, friend. Same price I pay.

i train at 10th planet and I don't see Eddie Bravo doing this. This might have been when he first started opening up his school.
 

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i train at 10th planet and I don't see Eddie Bravo doing this. This might have been when he first started opening up his school.
Friend. I said it was ten years ago. Policies change. Not sure how long they've been there or if that was a common practice for new students, it's just what happened to me. I thought it was weird.

He basically had a student show me the lock down and the fundamentals of the style Eddie uses per Eddie's request in the ring that they had there :manny: and i git eddie's lockdown dvd showing that time he beat one the gracies at a tournament. it is what it is friend. No grudges friend. I just hope it's no longer a business practice. I think at a place that wears gi's you would have paid close to that for your gi and since they don't wear gis they pass the cost making you pay at the door

God willing, friend. :sitdown:
 

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Master Lloyd Irvin?
He got a sketchy past man :merchant:


I know Lloyd well. I can speak on much of "that" past. A lot of it is overhyped but its not really something I'd prefer to go into public. That said just understand the DMV is a highly competitive area for EVERYTHING, including martial arts. Lloyd Irvin kind of has the area in a stranglehold and a lot of competing gyms don't like that. The guys that own BloodyElbow.com are in tight with some the competition and they have been working to discredit rivals. I can tell you what's legit and what isn't but is basically business rivalry that turned personal....
 

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I know Lloyd well. I can speak on much of "that" past. A lot of it is overhyped but its not really something I'd prefer to go into public. That said just understand the DMV is a highly competitive area for EVERYTHING, including martial arts. Lloyd Irvin kind of has the area in a stranglehold and a lot of competing gyms don't like that. The guys that own BloodyElbow.com are in tight with some the competition and they have been working to discredit rivals. I can tell you what's legit and what isn't but is basically business rivalry that turned personal....
Seemed odd to me that BE was so up in everyone's face with that info. Makes sense now. It cost Lloyd a lot of his high profile clients basically cause of the bad publicity.

Oddly enough, the guy who jumpstarted the Irvin witch hunt was War Machine of all fukking people. That dirtbag had no right to judge anyone.
 

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Seemed odd to me that BE was so up in everyone's face with that info. Makes sense now. It cost Lloyd a lot of his high profile clients basically cause of the bad publicity.

Oddly enough, the guy who jumpstarted the Irvin witch hunt was War Machine of all fukking people. That dirtbag had no right to judge anyone.

There were a lot of moving parts there, I always felt awkward because I was one of the few guys that remained cool with most parties during all the fall out. But I'm a casual BJJ guy anyway, so I wasn't in to deep enough to pick sides I guess.

Put it like this, Master Lloyd IS a business man and he runs his schools like a business. If you don't follow his lines, he might cut your pay or not present you with opportunities. A lot of schools are much looser than that, but those same schools usually don't get as successful. There are pros and cons to that shyt and keeping it 100%, Master Lloyd is already a multi millionaire and somewhat aloof until you get to know him. A LOT of people don't like the idea that one of the major areas in the country has its BJJ run by a black guy, notice ALL the people who are attacking and condemning him (at least of the original pool) were all white guys with stakes in rival schools (like Keenan Cornelius's pops being one of them).

I still got love for Ryan Hall and the 50/50 guys, I used to learn under him when he was a purple but those guys felt Lloyd wasn't giving them their "appropriate financial cut" so they dipped. They brought up old personal business, but Master Lloyd was found guilty on nothing. I'm not trying to turn a sinner into a saint here, but don't believe all the hype. Its a lot of money based bickering.



Edit: Oh and the War Machine thing... that shyt all happened because War Machine beat one of our dudes (Tim Woods) at a local show and talked shyt about our team because we were very supportive of Tim during the fight. Petty beef there, but War Machine is in jail now, what's he really got to say?
 

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just started. @TheDarceKnight Are you the same poster from reddit? Got any tips for a complete beginner. I was going to train at AOJ but it was too far from my house so i signed up with 10th planet. Im having a great time. Only been going a few days, today will be 5. Anyway yeah if you or anyone has any tips id appreciate it. Right now this is the video thats helped me out the most. I watch it three times a day.


Just saw this. Same poster. I will try my best to drop some gems for you here tomorrow.

Real happy you're training. You'll love it!

I'll tag you in a post tomorrow with some things I wish I knew when I started.
 

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just started. @TheDarceKnight Are you the same poster from reddit? Got any tips for a complete beginner. I was going to train at AOJ but it was too far from my house so i signed up with 10th planet. Im having a great time. Only been going a few days, today will be 5. Anyway yeah if you or anyone has any tips id appreciate it. Right now this is the video thats helped me out the most. I watch it three times a day.


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So I'm going to find some cool videos and stuff for you also, but as far as some quick thoughts. I think you made a great choice. I am a massive fan of the Mendes Bros's technique. and I've trained with them a few times, and I have a close friend and training partner that was at AOJ for a few years. He said it's a good place to train, but very corporate, and sort of cold. He said everyione dresses like Rafa and Gui, and that there's a lot of stanning going on in terms of people sucking up to them, etc.

I'm guessing you're at 10th Planet Costa Mesa? If so, I've heard great things. Casey Halstead is pretty awesome, and I'm pretty sure that Tony Ferguson (UFC lightweight with a beastly jiu-jitsu game) trains there fairly often. I have some opinions on gi vs nogi that you might grow to disagree with, since you're at a 10p school, but for what it's worth, I am better at nogi than gi, and I started off with nogi for a year or so before I ever put a gi on. So I'd love to train at 10p Costa Mesa.

If I had to give any advice to myself that early in the game (I'm a brown belt, been training for a decade this year), I would say to really try your best to enjoy the process. So the first few months are probably going to be a lot of survival, and you're going to tap a lot, especially since 10th Planet is very big into the "submission only" style that's popular right now. Just try to become okay with tapping out, and figure out the process to the game...tap out, figure out what tapped you, work on defending it, attacking with it, etc. And it really is a marathon, that gets more and more fun as it goes on. If you get caught up in losing or winning, and living and dying on the mats, it'll get frustrating. I always tell people to not let a bad day on the mats bring them down too much, and not to let a good day on the mats get you too excited.

I think it's really cool too, because you're in an environment where everything is legal, basically right away. So you're going to be exposed to things like heel hooks right away, which I like. Man..if you have a style you like, emulate it, and you'll find your own path. Study people you like, find what works for your body type, don't be afraid to train with other people or visit other gyms. There are SO many different approaches and ways to do the same techniques. Keep an open mind. Every 10p cat I've met has been really friendly. I'm sure you'll get a good group. I feel like I'm saying a bunch of generic and corny stuff, but I don't want to overwhelm you with all this crazy stuff if you're so early in the game.

If you're gonna be sticking with nogi, watch Marcelo Garcia man. He's the GOAT nogi player. Some of my other favorite nogi players are Braulio Estima, Rafa Mendes, Cobrinha, Andre Galvao, Bill Cooper, Jeff Glover, Rafael Lovato Jr, Ryan Hall, Kron Gracie, JT Torres, Buchecha, Rodolfo Vieira, Keenan Cornelius, Garry Tonon, Gordon Ryan, Eddie Cummings, and Dillon Danis.
 
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