Let's Be Reality: Islam Is A Problem.

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

It's ok to be slightly skeptical.

The horizon always rises to the eye level of the observer as altitude is gained, so you never have to look down to see it. If Earth were a ball, no matter how large, as you ascended the horizon would stay fixed and the observer / camera would have to tilt looking down further and further to see it. This does not happen anywhere on earth.




You can observe the new york skyline from New Jersey which is impossible on a ball earth because of "curvature".



Ball earth defies the natural physics of water to find and maintain its level. Rivers would be flowing uphill, for example, the Missisipi River would have travel up about 11 miles. Bridges and buildings plans/schematics don't factor in earth curvature ever. Airplane maintain their altitude without ever dipping constantly which would be necessary on a ball earth.

On a ball Earth, Johannesburg, South Africa to Perth, Australia should be a straight flight over the Indian Ocean with convenient re-fueling possibilities on Mauritus or Madagascar. In actual practice, however, most Johannesburg to Perth flights curiously stop over either in Dubai, Hong Kong or Malaysia all of which make no sense on the ball, but are completely understandable when mapped on a flat Earth.


There's many more proofs. The rotating ball earth model is easy to rip to shreds because you realize there absolutely zero basis for it.

It's reality.

Great circle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Yep. Most people especially in the right and obviously in the US TOTALLY deny any social or contextual reasons to the rise of extremism. They just say "These people are crazy". Far from that actually, especially ISIS, Hamas or the Muslim brotherhood. These people are organized, thorough and have an actual administrative infrastructure, and take over what the state has not been able to do. But that analysis obviously doesn't sit well because to confront it you would have to give more power to the state (SOCIALISM ALERT!!!).

Funny enough, most arab states had a brand of nationalism mixed with socialism in the 70s-80s, and were secular. That did not sit with the powers that be.

An understated aspect of this whole conversation is that, especially in Europe, it's not so much/only that Islam has become more radical (there has always been extremist pockets in Europe) but...that radicals have islamized. There is no other valuable "alternative" to the mainstream neo-liberal system. Socialism and communisms have been destroyed, and the neo-liberal system itself does not provide a "story" or an inspiration for the future. It's only message is "You're on you own, get your money or it's your fault". There is no social project, nothing people can believe in anymore, as individuals or societies.

So while before people who were against neo-liberalism and all-out capitalism could turn to socialism, communism or "Another world is possible" movements, now they really can't. What's left? Religion, that gives a sense of community and a "purpose". This also explains in part the rise of the "born again" churches in Africa, but in Europe it's Islam (with it's extreme parts) that has provided that alternative.

extremists are people who I think of as real believers.

 

[mbewane]

extremists are people who I think of as real believers.

IMO there is no such thing as "real believers". If we think about it, every single religion has different interpretations at any moment in history. You have Christians who are against abortion, others that are for it. You have Shia and Sunnite Muslims. And so on and so forth. So no one can be a "real believer", and in my limited experience most claiming to have "the truth" on social issues lacks nuance and knowledge and/or does so to push an agenda of intolerance.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

IMO there is no such thing as "real believers". If we think about it, every single religion has different interpretations at any moment in history. You have Christians who are against abortion, others that are for it. You have Shia and Sunnite Muslims. And so on and so forth. So no one can be a "real believer", and in my limited experience most claiming to have "the truth" on social issues lacks nuance and knowledge and/or does so to push an agenda of intolerance.

Well people try to distance themselves from extremists and it annoys me...its why I dont let moderates off the hook...im' not religious so I hold them all accountable by proxy

 

[mbewane]

Well people try to distance themselves from extremists and it annoys me...its why I dont let moderates off the hook...im' not religious so I hold them all accountable by proxy

That's what terrorists do with us.

 

[choc_cardigan]

I just want to make sure I'm reading this right, someone in here is trying to argue that the earth is flat.

 

[acri1]

I just want to make sure I'm reading this right, someone in here is trying to argue that the earth is flat.

I was just looking at this like

 

[DIMES]

Great circle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Why did you show me this? It is nothing.

I have presented all facts that the earth is a flat plane. There no facts or proofs to the a rotating ball earth, at all.

The damning proof of the horizon is all I need but I can even show more hundreds of proofs. Do not be arrogant.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Why did you show me this? It is nothing.

I have presented all facts that the earth is a flat plane. There no facts or proofs to the a rotating ball earth, at all.

The damning proof of the horizon is all I need but I can even show more hundreds of proofs. Do not be arrogant.

If the earth doesn't rotate, where does the sun go at night?

 

[DIMES]

I was just looking at this like

Did I state a singe lie? Be real with yourself.

 

[ill]

If the earth doesn't rotate, where does the sun go at night?

It goes to sleep like the rest of Allah's people

 

[DIMES]

If the earth doesn't rotate, where does the sun go at night?

The sun has its own course. It's simple really. The earth is still and the sun and moon rotate above on different courses.

This is where I will demolish the 93 millions away center Sun theory lol.

I'm in class right now. Il get back soon enough.

 

[ill]

The sun has its own course. It's simple really. The earth is still and the sun and moon rotate above on different courses.

This is where I will demolish the 93 millions away center Sun theory lol.

I'm in class right now. Il get back soon enough.

Wait I have a question for you.....Whats on the bottom side of this flat Earth plane?

Is that where the Jews and nonbelievers go? Is that where the concept of Hell came from?

 

[DonFrancisco]

Well people try to distance themselves from extremists and it annoys me...its why I dont let moderates off the hook...im' not religious so I hold them all accountable by proxy

That goes for any religion. I'm a christian in the US and I don't denouncing priests fondling kids or Joel Olsteen and Creflo Dollar making millions of personal dollars by pimping the name of Jesus lol.

Am I to blame for sad state and capitalization of US Christianity?

 

[DonFrancisco]

Wait I have a question for you.....Whats on the bottom side of this flat Earth plane?

Is that where the Jews and nonbelievers go? Is that where the concept of Hell came from?

That's where Tupac, Alliyah, Elvis and Selena are hiding. They all faked their own deaths? Didn't you know?