Lets be real here. Can black men afford to be "goofy" and "vulnerable" around black women? Are pawgs built for the cornball brothas?

Iverson_64

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Y’all nikkas make dating so hard:dead:

Just be yourself and the hoes will flock towards you. I’m goofy asf and females always tell me they love how I can keep conversation going and I’m able to make them laugh. I only date black woken btw
This.

Being funny and being able to read social cues will work wonders with the average woman.

Being talented is a cheat code too. I'm a musician(as a hobby) and can sing really well and I've seen first hand how many women get turned on by my skills or performances.
 

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Y’all nikkas make dating so hard:dead:

Just be yourself and the hoes will flock towards you. I’m goofy asf and females always tell me they love how I can keep conversation going and I’m able to make them laugh. I only date black woken btw

Terrible advice. :mjlol: A lot of nikkas need help and to become a better version of themselves.
 
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Maybe most but in the real world it’s either way.
fair enough but my point is that the whole "date your nerdy counterpart" argument is off-base and a little disingenuous. I mean, pretty much everyone uses it as a strawman right off the bat with the "you just want an instagram model" excuse which has so many pokable holes in it.

First of all the dating game for men and women is completely different. Any black woman, nerdy or not, is going to have men from all races and shapes and sizes trying to court her as long as she isn’t horrifically overweight or sloppy. Most men aren't given that luxury and are gonna try to take what they can get. Don't know where this "instathot" argument came from. People on here make threads about lames flying out chicks and then not getting laid, that pineapple show where dudes embarrass themselves trying to court C-tier ratchet-looking instagram whores, and the countless online dating studies that basically spell out in math and essay form that men are in a constant struggle trying to bag women online.

leading me to my next point - most men will drop whatever bullshyt requirement they have if the first woman that looked good to them walked by. Interest and personality don't matter. Maybe there are a few that would turn down a decent looking black girl for a mid-or-below white one, but I honestly don't know what reality these people live in where nerdy black guys en-masse are turning down cute black women like that. How can you say nerdy black men aren't checking for their counterparts with a straight face when we're constantly shown just how thirsty men can get and the lows they stoop for female affection? It's a nice strawman and a good way to deflect and ignore any real gripes nerdy bm have but it isn't realistic.

I don't even understand the "date your counterpart" argument, either. Why are "nerdy" black men the only ones that have to relegate themselves to a certain 'type'? Athletes, musicians, and the like have the entire black spectrum to choose from. They can get their ilk, they can get nerds, they can get goths, they can get whoever they please. I think this is just a sly way to tell black men to date down. a total copout.

I'm not saying nerdy black women are ugly
, I'm saying there are quite a lot of nerdy black women that are overweight or below average in the face and a lot of the ones that aren't are going for white and Asian men or they have the same "type" that other attractive black women have. There's an imbalance. a lot of the nerdy black men getting boxed out of the dating game or being expected to settle aren't completely ugly. a lot are homely sure or don't know how to dress or don't have "swag", but they're expected to like for 2s and 3s when they might be a 4 or a 5.

Now, I agree. If you look like this

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You should stick with this

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Not all of them look like Ian, though. a lot of guys are just plain or homely and I think there's a very small pool of nerdy black women that look like this

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That are into nerdy black men. Case in point: Tika is married to a white man. an unemployed white man who only recently officially married her

There's also something else that's been bugging me about this whole argument. Homely/nerdy/goofy men from other races can date out of their league. Not all, clearly but enough for this to become a point. Why do black men have to conform? If you ask me, any man that has a good job, a stable life, and is not horrifically fugly or sloppy does deserve a dime’s attention. They're far better than most of the men these women let seed them up. There's a very attractive black woman right now that had a baby by some guy that growls at her. There was an entire thread about that made in the same month as a thread about a good looking black nurse supporting a bum.

If you ask me, the wrong type of black men are getting rewarded in this community, and the wrong men get mocked and ridiculed for justifiably being upset while also either being left single or having to settle for average below. You won't find any song or tweets from beautiful black women praising Urkel or Carlton Banks, but you will find songs glorifying thugs and Urkel and Steve's names are used as insults. That alone is a huge issue. Urkel may be a bit of a cartoon, but in any other culture Carlton would have been a normal guy.

I know. talking about celebrities like they should be the benchmark is stupid, but I'm tired of that being used as an argument. Threads get made about them all the time. The fact of the matter is there are a lot of famous, objectively beautiful women in the BC ignoring black businessmen and successful doctors and politicians for rappers and athletes, but have no problem either marrying the equivalent from other races or the rappers and athletes making a mess of the community right now.Not a lot of rappers and athletes are good role-models either. They cheat, they beat, they leave them single mothers, and it doesn't stop with just one woman. Some of these guys have entire harems (Nick Cannon).

Tupac seemed like he had a good head on his shoulders but couldn't get any women until he turned himself into a criminal which ended up getting him killed. We've got a lot of young black men in that time and even in this era aspiring to be like him. Celebrity idolization is a problem. Unfortunately a lot famous beautiful black women in the Americas are either married to the aforementioned black men that built their whole career out of being rappers and athletes, white men (career and lifestyle and looks don't matter to them), or Hispanic men if they're in South America (career and lifestyle and looks don't matter to them).

Look at Meganthestallion, she I've seen her used as part of the "you want an Instagram model argument", but she's a nerd. she basically proves my previous points - that attractive nerdy black women don't have the same problems. that even though she's a nerd she isn't checking for other black nerds, and that she was comfortable laying up with some goofy looking cac. I've seen more famous black women lay up with goofy looking men from other races than I have of them with goofy black men, meanwhile, right off the top of my head, I can name drop like 5 decent looking famous black men with ugly or mid looking black wives.

Now what do you think that tells all the young black men out there? Serena Williams dated nothing but black rappers and athletes but marries a white website developer. Tyra Banks dates black rappers, athletes, the occasional actor, but the cac she married and had a baby by is a photographer. Bria Myles got with some literal who generic looking cac in her prime, but now that she's over 30 and has devalued her body with surgery she's ready to date black men, and they're not like the cac, nope, they're billionaire basketball players. I could go on.

For every 1 young black man that wants to be Neil DeGrasse Tyson or David Satcher there are 9 that want to be Future or Nick Cannon. Guess who's getting the better looking women.
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I'm not saying non-black women are better, because they aren't, but it feels like brehs have to do a lot to get a dime while other races of men can bag dimes of their own race and black women without conforming to some stupid standard. Case in point, hundreds of thousands of think pieces, articles, forum threads, videos, and social media posts about this subject that spans over a decade but not one image of a corny/nerdy/homely black man with an objectively fine black woman The topic gets deflected. Like this thread.
The OP wanted to know why he always saw fine Latinas with goofy ugly looking Hispanic men and the third reply said it was because they weren't shallow like black women. 39 pages and almost 600 replies because of that, and one picture of a certified dime hugged up with an Ian jones Quarty looking dude would have debunked him, but nothing.
 
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People will act like black women are immune to the same expectations of black masculinity that have black men doing stupid shyt (e.g., visting O-block as multimillionaires, joining criminal conspiracies despite being solidly middle or upper middle class, threatening people with hollow tips as multimillionaire athletes).

All black women? No. All black men? No. Enough to create an issue? Yes.
very interesting point, so a bw and her social circle is more acepting of corny non-black as her mate than a nerdy breh. never even considered that point. :ohhh:
 

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This is the BIGGEST LIE in the dating game :mjlol:
The biggest LIE. It works so well on nerdy guys too.

The idea of earning the woman's love and trying to impress her

When the type of guy she likes could just ask her out for a quick bite at a bar and walk in the park and she'd be ecstatic

Meanwhile the nerd is trying to be Casanova 2.0 "stepping up their game physically, mentally, socially, financially etc" before they feel they're worthy enough to ask out homegirl out

It's a risky plan because it's not organic. Because the so-called baddie is still a human being and has flaws that subvert your high expectations

Or even worse, you did all that and the baddie isn't falling all over u. whomp whomp now what? It's fuk these bytches fuk these hoes modern women suck etc

It just reminds me of the guys that hit the gym gaining muscles and buying luxury cars but the guy that's bagging their crush is a skinny dude that makes her laugh and kinda keeps to himself
 

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On some real shyt, a lot of black women don’t know how to recognize a good, financially well off black man…or they don’t know how to deal with them. And/or because they’ve messed with street dudes, have wildly unrealistic expectations of them.

I have a friend who cleans up with women…all 6s. He’s an ex-D1 Linebacker, 6’4, making like $400K+ as a doctor…bearded, initimidating looking dude. Doesn’t look or act soft at all. Not an ugly dude (pause) and prob around 10% bf (pause) Hearing dudes dating stories with black women is demotivating as fukk though.

Breh has had 0 luck with black women despite dating them. He’s messing with black 8s but they’re rude & ungrateful as shyt. I’m talking simple things like not saying thank you after he treats them to meals, expecting him to live way beyond his means (dude drives a $100K car and they still want him to get a Rolls Royce & shyt wtf), saying they’re gonna hold out sex for months, generally just being a pain in the ass. He still ends up smashing because he's savvy enough to, but he ends up dating them for a really short period due to these issues when he actually wants to date for marriage at this point.

And these aren’t uneducated women, these are women making $100K+ themselves with grad degrees.

Meanwhile Beckies are beating down dudes door and making hour long drives to come see him. Offering sloppy top for his lunch breaks, everything. shyt is insane.

Me and my boys talked about it and we concluded a lot of these women just legitimately are disconnected from reality. Don’t save. Have no idea what being a provider vs. a consumer is, etc.

Some of that is on black men (their fathers) for not providing examples, but we’re fairly sure it’s also expectations set from dating fast money, illegitimate dudes.

The fact this high net worth guy is actively trying to wife up an attractive black woman & is struggling to do more than have sex with them is a red flag to me. We can act like there’s not an issue but if we’re real, there is.
People create their own reality based on their perceptions & thoughts. Brehs have trouble with BW because they prefer WW and others. It is what it is. Same with BW that talk about how hard it was dating BM then switching to Cacs. I feel like you should love who you love but both groups are being disingenuous. Textbook white worship :manny:
 

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How goofy are we talking about? Like marlon wayans goofy?
 
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