Because the powers that be will allow one of only two things. To remind you of what you were and to enforce the belief that you should be happy with what they've ALLOWED you to become. Slave or Servant, that is all you we will ever truly be to them
Just saw 12 Years a Slave
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Because the powers that be will allow one of only two things. To remind you of what you were and to enforce the belief that you should be happy with what they've ALLOWED you to become. Slave or Servant, that is all you we will ever truly be to them
Slavery is not a uniquely american experience but I think the director (who is European as well) made that move for two reasons because his producers are american and work in america and because the influence america has on the world at this time.
This shyt was up on YouTube the other day, but when I went to watch it, it'd been removed.
McQueen has other critically acclaimed and recognized movies as well.
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Short version: they appeal to white guilt, which despite having "white" in the name, resonates with many races in many ways
Longer version: films targeted at blacks either contain content that is so black specific (or supports/reinforces stereotypes) that it's unrelatable, or tries so hard to be t exact opposite that it comes off as inauthentic, and no one (including us, sometimes) truly supports or believes it.
I'm saying "slavery in America" is uniquely American. But I would actually love to see a movie about the slave trade in europe...or slavery in brazil....etc. It would breathe life into the topic.
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I don't know if producers want to invest in those types of movies unless movies about slavery becomes popular in near future. Whant I was trying to get at is that I doubt a movie about the European slavery or brazil would get made and have the budget 12 years a slave had unless it was backed and done in america.
had to bring this back up, read this breh and tell me his story shouldn't be told? The info you have been feed is whitewashed. This is the real deal.
The Black Seminoles:
- Founded over a dozen black settlements in Florida before 1840.
- Created the largest haven for fugitive slaves in the Southern U.S.
- Survived two major U.S. wars and slave raids (1816-1821, 1835-1838).
- Inspired and led the largest slave rebellion in U.S. history (1835-1838).
- Fought the only maroon war in U.S. history (1835-1838).
- With Seminole Indians, fought the U.S. Army to a standstill in the largest and most expensive "Indian" war in U.S. history, the army's only non-victory prior to Vietnam.
- Won the only emancipation of rebellious African Americans prior to the U.S. Civil War (1838).
- Supplied antislavery congressmen with key arguments for overturning the "gag" rule in Congress (1836-1844).
- Pioneered a role for blacks in the U.S. armed forces, working closely with leading officers in Florida and the West (1838-1850, 1872-1914).
- Led the largest mass exodus of slaves in U.S. history, from Oklahoma to Mexico (1849-1850).
- Defended Mexican settlers from border Indians (1850-1856).
- Through the legacy of their rebellion, offered a legal precedent for Lincoln's emancipation of the southern slaves in 1863.
- In Texas after 1872, served as U.S. Army scouts, playing a key role in the final, major Indian conflicts on the Texas frontier (1872-1876).
- Established enduring communities in Mexico, Texas, and Oklahoma.
http://www.johnhorse.com/black-seminoles/faq-black-seminoles.htm#follow
there is a reason this guy isn't talked about in black history & it sure isn't shame
as for the Slave Rebellion itself
That Gag rule is still put in place by historians. Its documented proof of it being the largest in U.S. HistoryThe Black Seminole slave rebellion took place from December of 1835 to April of 1838 in central Florida during the first half of the Second Seminole War.[17]
Technically, it is a matter of debate whether or not the Black Seminoles themselves should be counted as direct participants in the slave revolt, since most of the Black Seminoles were considered maroons -- Africans who had lived in the wilderness long enough to establish a quasi-free status, albeit one unsanctioned by white society. Regardless of how the Black Seminoles are classified, however, there is no question that they led and inspired hundreds of plantation slaves who rebelled over this period, fleeing their masters to join the Seminole ranks.
War erupts: Follow the allied Seminole forces in fifteen story panels charting the dramatic events that began the Second Seminole War.
Except for a few specialists, historians have generally had a hard time dealing with the ethnic complexities of the Second Seminole War. As a result, they have often conflated the maroon warriors and the plantation-slave rebels, ascribing all of the black aspects of the war to the Black Seminoles while overlooking the role of the 385-plus field slaves.
This confusion, coupled with ideological trends in American history, has led scholars classifying American slave rebellions to overlook the Florida rebellion for more than one hundred and fifty years.
Was it really the 18]
For a factual comparison, see the table of major U.S. slave revolts in this site's original essay, The largest slave rebellion in U.S. history, or see Rebellion's tally plantation slaves in the rebellion. The information toolkit on the rebellion includes quotations, sources, and additional details for skeptics. This site is the first source to substantiate with numbers and sources the claim that the Black Seminole slave rebellion was the largest in U.S. history.
Aside from a few regional specialists, American scholars have generally been inattentive or ignorant regarding the role of plantation slaves in the Second Seminole War.
Should we let historians off the hook because the war's ethnic dimensions were so complex? Or because the war appears to have been a minor event?
Absolutely not. For one, the war was anything but a minor event. It was the largest and most costly Indian war in U.S. history -- more expensive and deadly than all the famous Indians wars of the American West combined.[19] The war was not forgotten because it was minor, but because it was humiliating for the U.S. Army, and in particular for the American South, whose vaunted white yeomen and gentry could not defeat the black allies of the Seminoles.
Secondly, the ethnic dimensions of the war were not so complex that trained historians should have missed them. Alliances between maroons and slaves were not unusual in the Americas, but in fact were typical of many of the largest slave rebellions. From Jamaica to Brazil, maroons provided leadership and inspiration for some of the New World's largest revolts.[20] The U.S. generals who prosecuted the Second Seminole War were very mindful of these examples as they planned their military strategies. If the generals knew the facts, so should the scholars. Scholars of American slavery, therefore, especially those who have written about the foreign rebellions, have no excuse for having missed the facts on the Black Seminole rebellion.[21]
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Who 22] Overall, this created an atmosphere that stifled open information on the black dimensions of the war in Florida. The ruling class of the South saw no interest in circulating the fact that black rebels were successfully challenging their allegedly superior masters. Southern lawmakers were also not anxious for northern taxpayers to learn that the federally funded army was suppressing a southern slave rebellion, attempting to return fugitives to their owners.
In the aftermath of the bloody slave uprising led by Nat Turner in 1831, the southern press became even more reluctant to report insurrections in a straightforward manner, and slaveholders tended to view all dissemination of such knowledge as an act of treason. Under such circumstances, slaveholders countenanced various forms of censorship from 1835-1842 -- the same years that the war in Florida was taking place. These included censorship of the southern mails and implementation of the notorious "gag rule" banning all debates of slavery in the U.S. Congress.[23]
These controls effectively kept knowledge of the Florida slave rebellion from the general public, at least until 1842, when Congress debated the issue. Most Northern members of Congress appear to have been unfamiliar with the slave dimensions of the war until the 1842 debates, which took place four years after most of the blacks had surrendered.[24]
The dynamics of the war were better known early on within the inner circles of the military. In 1836, commanding general Thomas Sydney Jesup wrote to the Secretary of War, "This, you may be assured, is a negro, not an Indian war; and if it be not speedily put down, the south will feel the effects of it on their slave population before the end of the next season." Jesup was the most successful commander of the war, and not surprisingly the one who understood its ethnic dimensions the most clearly.[25]
Technically, it is a matter of debate whether or not the Black Seminoles themselves should be counted as direct participants in the slave revolt, since most of the Black Seminoles were considered maroons -- Africans who had lived in the wilderness long enough to establish a quasi-free status, albeit one unsanctioned by white society. Regardless of how the Black Seminoles are classified, however, there is no question that they led and inspired hundreds of plantation slaves who rebelled over this period, fleeing their masters to join the Seminole ranks.
War erupts: Follow the allied Seminole forces in fifteen story panels charting the dramatic events that began the Second Seminole War.
Except for a few specialists, historians have generally had a hard time dealing with the ethnic complexities of the Second Seminole War. As a result, they have often conflated the maroon warriors and the plantation-slave rebels, ascribing all of the black aspects of the war to the Black Seminoles while overlooking the role of the 385-plus field slaves.
This confusion, coupled with ideological trends in American history, has led scholars classifying American slave rebellions to overlook the Florida rebellion for more than one hundred and fifty years.
Was it really the 18]
For a factual comparison, see the table of major U.S. slave revolts in this site's original essay, The largest slave rebellion in U.S. history, or see Rebellion's tally plantation slaves in the rebellion. The information toolkit on the rebellion includes quotations, sources, and additional details for skeptics. This site is the first source to substantiate with numbers and sources the claim that the Black Seminole slave rebellion was the largest in U.S. history.
Aside from a few regional specialists, American scholars have generally been inattentive or ignorant regarding the role of plantation slaves in the Second Seminole War.
Should we let historians off the hook because the war's ethnic dimensions were so complex? Or because the war appears to have been a minor event?
Absolutely not. For one, the war was anything but a minor event. It was the largest and most costly Indian war in U.S. history -- more expensive and deadly than all the famous Indians wars of the American West combined.[19] The war was not forgotten because it was minor, but because it was humiliating for the U.S. Army, and in particular for the American South, whose vaunted white yeomen and gentry could not defeat the black allies of the Seminoles.
Secondly, the ethnic dimensions of the war were not so complex that trained historians should have missed them. Alliances between maroons and slaves were not unusual in the Americas, but in fact were typical of many of the largest slave rebellions. From Jamaica to Brazil, maroons provided leadership and inspiration for some of the New World's largest revolts.[20] The U.S. generals who prosecuted the Second Seminole War were very mindful of these examples as they planned their military strategies. If the generals knew the facts, so should the scholars. Scholars of American slavery, therefore, especially those who have written about the foreign rebellions, have no excuse for having missed the facts on the Black Seminole rebellion.[21]
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Who 22] Overall, this created an atmosphere that stifled open information on the black dimensions of the war in Florida. The ruling class of the South saw no interest in circulating the fact that black rebels were successfully challenging their allegedly superior masters. Southern lawmakers were also not anxious for northern taxpayers to learn that the federally funded army was suppressing a southern slave rebellion, attempting to return fugitives to their owners.
In the aftermath of the bloody slave uprising led by Nat Turner in 1831, the southern press became even more reluctant to report insurrections in a straightforward manner, and slaveholders tended to view all dissemination of such knowledge as an act of treason. Under such circumstances, slaveholders countenanced various forms of censorship from 1835-1842 -- the same years that the war in Florida was taking place. These included censorship of the southern mails and implementation of the notorious "gag rule" banning all debates of slavery in the U.S. Congress.[23]
These controls effectively kept knowledge of the Florida slave rebellion from the general public, at least until 1842, when Congress debated the issue. Most Northern members of Congress appear to have been unfamiliar with the slave dimensions of the war until the 1842 debates, which took place four years after most of the blacks had surrendered.[24]
The dynamics of the war were better known early on within the inner circles of the military. In 1836, commanding general Thomas Sydney Jesup wrote to the Secretary of War, "This, you may be assured, is a negro, not an Indian war; and if it be not speedily put down, the south will feel the effects of it on their slave population before the end of the next season." Jesup was the most successful commander of the war, and not surprisingly the one who understood its ethnic dimensions the most clearly.[25]
'moral'? are you serious breh?
man you crazy That dude put in work & was responsible for things African Americans enjoy today. That's tangible evidence I posted, documented history & how it changed the lives of current day African Americans & you downplay it because cacs have whitewashed it
Cacs don't want nobody black knowing what this dude did & you helping them cover it up
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I don't think cacs give a fukk or even relate to this shyt anymore
try and put a movie out about how Black Folks was scalping heads and they will show you how much they care about distorting history
Watched this the other night and sometimes you need to see shyt like this to get your mind back right. The soap scene got me 