Joe Montana is still the GOAT in my eyes
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You deserve a doctorate in hating. I truly admire your dedication to it. Its otherworldly
Bum ass defenses in the 80's.
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Just because you could get away with hitting players more doesn't mean the defenses were better then..
Defensive players today are significantly better when looking from top to bottom of a roster, and the schemes are more advanced as well. That's just a fact.
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.Just because you could get away with hitting players more doesn't mean the defenses were better then.
.Defensive players today are significantly better when looking from top to bottom of a roster, and the schemes are more advanced as well. That's just a fact.
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So stacked they ain’t even make the playoffs the year before. No such thing as a stacked team in the NFL if your QB can’t finish the job and that’s the point with Tom Brady. Put him on any team and they a contender
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Here's Montana "dipping.." oh wait... that's actually a dime with pressure in his face
10 super now appearances and 7 wins is a lot of “luck”
With all due respect you’re being quite delusional I am comparing the 2 different errors you are comparing Montana’s teams with the players that he had to go against
and bringing up players like Ray Lewis in this conversation doesn’t make any sense if you wanna go there I could’ve easily added Mike Singletary to my list the fact is those two old time greats were middle linebackers ; so I don’t again I don’t understand why would you even bring Rae into this
And I assume you really Misinformed because bringing up the New York Giants is pretty ridiculous I remember all the media talk after that undefeated New England team losing the SB … And every report that came out said Brady was basically terrified during that whole game because the Giants D line dominated. it actually became a staple into beating the PATS … if you can put pressure on Brady with your front 4 without blitzing was the easiest way to defeat them -which became the talk for well over a decade that he very uncomfortable under pressure
so I don’t understand what the hell you’re saying about Tom Brady being this tough guy
Why are you all making up shyt
Receievers could get mauled before the ‘78 rule changes. It changed after that.
And the Bill Walsh offense was basically dinking and dunking compared to the long developing passing schemes everyone else was doing.
no you have it wrong in ‘77 or ‘78 they implement it what I believe is called the “Mel Blount rule” - because back then the defender was able to pretty much tackle the receiver before he can even begin his route
thereafter in the Montana/Walsh era those same defenders could grab the receiver (not tackle/haul) up until 10 yards I believe in which changed about a 2 and a half decade later with the “Ty Law rule” because Peyton Manning and the Indianapolis Colts kept complaining to the commissioner and that’s when receivers and tight ends numbers exploded … so you would happen to be wrong by saying in Montana’s era those receivers play under the same rule as Bradys era
and finally the Bill Walsh “west Coast offense” was nothing like dinking n dunking … basically was a change from the previous generation of football which was a more vertical game where the quarterback would do a 5 to 6 step drop back or shotgun to throw the ball 30 - 40 yards downfield see Steelers Raiders Cowboys etc. etc. so getting back to the “west coast offense” it was more of a side to side or horizontal game where the receivers and backs were in motion and it was a quick 3 step back no shotgun by the quarterback in out of their hands to the receiver while they was in motion and that basically produce what we call YAC yards after catch
so please stop this nonsense about making shyt up
I am a 49er fan from way back inna days… I know what I’m talking about
Bum ass defenses in the 80's.
Just because you could get away with hitting players more doesn't mean the defenses were better then.
Defensive players today are significantly better when looking from top to bottom of a roster, and the schemes are more advanced as well. That's just a fact.
Offenses evolved too though.
Also it definitely is easier to play O now.
Even Brady says playing offense now is easier than it was when he first entered the league.
Im being delusional?? How so?? Justin Tuck and Strahan said he was always there and never rattled. Pressure with 4 ia the recipe to give any QB trouble. Very stupid comment. Going back to the 70s. The Steel Curtain would get pressure with 4, thats why they were so formidable, as were the Purple People Eaters, Fearsome Foursome. You literally tried to list DT as an opponent for Montana when they only played one year as potential opponents in opposite conferences. Bradys has won plenty of games while being hit. He got a ton in SB 51 and still led them back, Freeney used to get a Brady and Brady would still play well and win. The Ravens were drilling Brady in 2014 in the Divisional Playoffs. He came.back down 14, twice!! The Niners were wreaking havoc in 2012 on Brady ahd he still led them back down 31-3 to tie the game. Joe is so tough that they went and traded for Young after getting that ass taxed 49-3. Then he got benched.in the playoffs after getting that ass taxed again in 87. And got benched!!! Has Tom Brady ever got benched in a playoff game?? Has he ever been knocked out in a playoff game?? Brady played against many killers.With all due respect you’re being quite delusional I am comparing the 2 different errors you are comparing Montana’s teams with the players that he had to go against
and bringing up players like Ray Lewis in this conversation doesn’t make any sense if you wanna go there I could’ve easily added Mike Singletary to my list the fact is those two old time greats were middle linebackers ; so I don’t again I don’t understand why would you even bring Rae into this
And I assume you really Misinformed because bringing up the New York Giants is pretty ridiculous I remember all the media talk after that undefeated New England team losing the SB … And every report that came out said Brady was basically terrified during that whole game because the Giants D line dominated. it actually became a staple into beating the PATS … if you can put pressure on Brady with your front 4 without blitzing was the easiest way to defeat them -which became the talk for well over a decade that he very uncomfortable under pressure
so I don’t understand what the hell you’re saying about Tom Brady being this tough guy
You missed the point...
People like to use those instances as negative talking points against players, except the players they like
People say stuff about Brady like...
he was bailed out by the tuck rule
he was bailed out by his defense
if Russ hands the ball off the Marshawn he loses
if the Falcons weren't idiots he loses
But even players like Montana made dumb decisions and got bailed out. Yet nobody diminishes his legacy for that