It's a shame Marcus Garvey wasn't born in this generation

[Majestyx]

#jamaicanexellence

 

[The Real]

I know yall HL nikkas don't wanna hear this but Marcus Garvey was a FRAUD with a gambling addiction. He wasn't takin nobody back to Africa. He raised a lot of money, so where were all the ships? He murdered James W.H. Eason for trying to reveal his scam.

Real talk, my nikkas. Yall like to pretend to be intellectuals, at least know the facts.

He was no saint, but calling him a total fraud and charlatan seems a bit extreme to me. What's the proof that he ordered Eason killed? I know Garveyites were responsible for his death, but I don't think there was much to trace it back to him.

 

[Mr.Black]

Marcus garvey wasnt shyt

who the fukk would listen in 2013?

and besides all that why the fukk would I want to go back to africa where my ancestors got sold at to begin with?

fukk africa

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

I know yall HL nikkas don't wanna hear this but Marcus Garvey was a FRAUD with a gambling addiction. He wasn't takin nobody back to Africa. He raised a lot of money, so where were all the ships? He murdered James W.H. Eason for trying to reveal his scam.

Real talk, my nikkas. Yall like to pretend to be intellectuals, at least know the facts.

Heard about this. Never said he wasn't flawed, if this is even true. However, his contributions still can't be ignored....

 

[luvaznpoon]

Marcus garvey wasnt shyt

who the fukk would listen in 2013?

and besides all that why the fukk would I want to go back to africa where my ancestors got sold at to begin with?

fukk africa

Wow.

 

[ThatTruth777]

so much self defeatism in this thread its disgusting

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Going back to africa really isn't a good idea.

 

[Broke Wave]

You dont see the barriers that would block that kind of message, in America to a greater degree in 2013, friend? Do you think the minds of friends are ripe for this sort of change at this moment in time?

A message, if it is relevant and powerful enough, should effect change regardless of how ignorant the masses are (or may appear to be)

As a Christian, the Bible's historical side is more or less the documentation of God sending his messengers against the tide of moral corruption and polytheism, against varying degrees of resistance and ignorance. The whole point of the Jews of the old Testament was to be a light unto the world and bring the nations back to the worship of one god. In that principle, any message can take hold despite what we think the population is up to mentally.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

Going back to africa really isn't a good idea.

Yeh, leave that to all the smart cac and asian investors to do that. :troll2:

 

[Spin]

For us to progress as a people it means that within our communities and family structures certain things would have to stop and no one likes having their party crashed

I used to really be on the "let's build, let's fix the problem, we're the victims were being exploited" tip when I was in college, but I got out into the real world and saw a generation that was quite aware of the things going on and how it affected them. Many of us choose to be in darkness; it's quite American when you think about it and if anything a sign that we are integrating more than we think.

To solve the issues with the family structure what do we have to do? Less unprotected sex? maybe choose our mates more carefully? How many people truly want to do all that? We love thugs, we love hoodrats...we love going raw.

To solve the issues of crime in our community what do we have to do? Maybe remove the dope boys? Maybe stop striving to live beyond our means and build together? How many people truly want to do all that? School just isn't cool to many of these cats. We think pumping money into education is gonna solve it but we don't even want to learn using the tools we have now. How many don't even want to skate by in the travesty that is out public system today? All you really gotta do to get a diploma is show up. Folks don't even wanna do that.

Best you can do in 2013 is just have your personal life together and let other people see you be the alternative so they can make a decision without excuses. I'm off that save the world stuff though, seen too many of my own people just flat out say "no".

This pretty much sums it up right here...The immediate answers are always right in front of you, but 9 times out of 10, its not the answer you're looking for....

We as a community need an entire mental\cultural shift in order to advance as a whole and its simply not going to happen.....

Reading the newest Malcolm X bio (which got hated on) you get a sense that Malcolm really was seeing things different. He was living in denial for so long that Elijah Muhmammad would turn on him after he gave his blood, sweat, and tears for the organization. Shows you can't ever put your faith in another human.

You guys hit it on the head that trying to save people that don't want to be saved is a fool's game. I'm all for helping others, but as Jesus said "He who has ears to hear, let them hear." The rest hopefully will come on board after they see others, but if not then what can you do.

 

[Outlaw]

Tupac Shakur was the last black hope. and thats why he was killed

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

He started the first (and only) black owned international shipping company the black star line
He taught black folks to stop depending on whites and do for self (which allowed them to in turn start their businesses).
He started numerous businesses himself and employed hundreds of people in the community
Right before getting deported he was sending the best black engineers in America over to Liberia to settle it as the HQ of the new African government.
By then the FBI got him and deported him back to Jamaica.

If you tell black people this today they will give you every reason in the book why this is "unrealistic" and how we need to rely of government checks to survive. Disgusting. marcus garvey was a great man and far ahead of his time. I only wish i were alive to see him making so many cac's mad.

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

I know yall HL nikkas don't wanna hear this but Marcus Garvey was a FRAUD with a gambling addiction. He wasn't takin nobody back to Africa. He raised a lot of money, so where were all the ships? He murdered James W.H. Eason for trying to reveal his scam.

Real talk, my nikkas. Yall like to pretend to be intellectuals, at least know the facts.

Your an idiot with nothing but baseless rumors and innuendo. Get your cac/c00n ass out of here.

 

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Your an idiot with nothing but baseless rumors and innuendo. Get your cac/c00n ass out of here.

Oh the irony.

Sorry for hurting your feelings, but truth hurts sometimes.

"Baseless rumors"

Did you ever see this ship that was supposed to carry people to Africa? If slave traders used those we'd all be back home flushing our shyt down gold pipes and looking at titties swinging freely. Garvey collected a lot of money. Can you explain what happened to it all? Because it damn sure didn't all go to buying that POS excuse for a watercraft.

Eason was a Garveyite who broke away, called out Garvey and started his own movement. These are called facts I don't know what the hell you're basing your post off of other than pure anger out of lack of knowledge.

 

[↓R↑LYB]

If you tell black people this today they will give you every reason in the book why this is "unrealistic" and how we need to rely of government checks to survive. Disgusting. marcus garvey was a great man and far ahead of his time. I only wish i were alive to see him making so many cac's mad.

I disagree. People still respect cats who put in work. If you start an organization that actually gives something to the people (rather than a dream) nikkas will fall in line, just to make sure they're getting their needs met. We've had generations of marches, dreams, and dope speeches and the average nikka who's fukked up don't care about any of that shyt. But he'll care if you can get an economic movement started to make sure he has a good paying job to take care of himself and his peoples.

But on the bolded, he'd have cacs running around mad like this