It's a shame Marcus Garvey wasn't born in this generation

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Man he will be met by so much ignorance from his own people smh. With the mindset of this generation leaders such as Malcolm X, MLK and Garvey will be non effective. Sad to say but my people are lost.

There is a strong anti-intellectual culture that is so pervasive now amongst black folks like we forgot that we fought to have the right to read and go to better schools just decades ago. Our "leaders" are mostly weaker hold outs from an era long gone and these kids dont wanna learn shyt outside their block. For us to learn and grow we have to be willing but most of us actively reject knowledge. Phrases like sounding smart being referred to as "talking white" or "using big words" smack of c00nery. There isn't very many people that have guts to stand for something unpopular. We group think a lot and people are scared to be honest so no longer is critisicm acceptable because it is hate! How can we rectify things if speaking on anything is hating lol.

Wish there were more strong people willing to stand for something, our spirits are wounded and the c00ns are going as hard as ever...
 

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I'm sayin tho, if you want Garvey to be alive in the 21st century why not just be a Garveyite?

In fact, there's great advantage to continuing some of the things he fought for. You can not only modernize the idea but also get rid of the deficiencies and side-step the temptations that influence a break from ideals. As oppose to talking about how people won't be receptive, or how we should even wish he was born in this time, actively finding creative ways to implement elements of Garveyism is not only a good method but something he himself would want. Truth is, his legacy lives through Black Nationalism and Pan-Africanism although they aren't exclusively phenomenons of Garveyism alone.

To me the issue is that people make bringing about these types of changes to be difficult, Pac said it best "One nikka teach two nikkaz, teach three nikkaz, teach four nikkaz, teach more nikkaz." If we want to lift up African peoples around the world then we gotta start small and bring slow tangible changes that can be measured in the day-to-day lives of those you wish to help. Jobs, gettin people sober from substance abuse and make them productive, re assimilating ex-cons, real youth outreach programs and initiatives, etc etc. You can't expect to suddenly lead the entire black nation to prominence if you haven't even addressed the people that's hurtin in your own neighborhood. It wouldn't be easy by no stretch, but it can be done.
 

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Oh the irony.

Sorry for hurting your feelings, but truth hurts sometimes. :manny:

"Baseless rumors" :heh:

Did you ever see this ship that was supposed to carry people to Africa? If slave traders used those we'd all be back home flushing our shyt down gold pipes and looking at titties swinging freely. Garvey collected a lot of money. Can you explain what happened to it all? Because it damn sure didn't all go to buying that POS excuse for a watercraft.

Eason was a Garveyite who broke away, called out Garvey and started his own movement. These are called facts I don't know what the hell you're basing your post off of other than pure anger out of lack of knowledge.

:lupe:

No you moron, I never saw the ship because I WASN'T alive during the early 1900's idiot. And where the fukk are you getting all this bullshyt information about Garvey misappropriating funds? Garvey had money, but if you know anything about that time period, Garvey lost a lot of money on his Blackstar line venture. Plus the demonic federal government did everything they could to make his life miserable, with threats of deportation as well as accusations of embezzlement and fraud.

Eason was a good man to, but he was jealous of Garvey's influence and popularity, hence the reason he broke away to start his own FAILED movement. Debois was a c00n obsessed with sucking up to white folk, so a real nikka like Garvey couldn't jive with that fool either.

If there are legitimate criticisms of Garvey it would be he had tendencies of being a bit of a megalomaniac. He also tried to have the international community crown him the ruler of Africa, which is a bit outrageous as well. But overall, Garvery accomplished an enormous amount for himself and black people, despite the overwhelming odds stacked against him. The fact that an embicile like yourself can ignore all his accomplishments and attempt to libel his character shows your utter stupidity.

Unless your a cac, then your position on Garvey is completely understood. Either way, GTFOH.
 

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No you moron, I never saw the ship because I WASN'T alive during the early 1900's idiot. And where the fukk are you getting all this bullshyt information about Garvey misappropriating funds? Garvey had money, but if you know anything about that time period, Garvey lost a lot of money on his Blackstar line venture. Plus the demonic federal government did everything they could to make his life miserable, with threats of deportation as well as accusations of embezzlement and fraud.

Eason was a good man to, but he was jealous of Garvey's influence and popularity, hence the reason he broke away to start his own FAILED movement. Debois was a c00n obsessed with sucking up to white folk, so a real nikka like Garvey couldn't jive with that fool either.

If there are legitimate criticisms of Garvey it would be he had tendencies of being a bit of a megalomaniac. He also tried to have the international community crown him the ruler of Africa, which is a bit outrageous as well. But overall, Garvery accomplished an enormous amount for himself and black people, despite the overwhelming odds stacked against him. The fact that an embicile like yourself can ignore all his accomplishments and attempt to libel his character shows your utter stupidity.

Unless your a cac, then your position on Garvey is completely understood. Either way, GTFOH.

Stopped reading here. :umad: :pachaha:

If you don't know about Eason, you just don't know. But don't get mad at me for trying to inform you. :yeshrug:
 

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Debois was a c00n obsessed with sucking up to white folk, so a real nikka like Garvey couldn't jive with that fool either.

You can't even spell his name right, but regardless, Du Bois was far from a c00n. Garvey's accusations against him were baseless and childish, just as vice versa.
 

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I figured you were a worthless troll.

*puts this fakkit on ignore*

That's all y'all pussies do in HL. Somebody challenges your rudimentary understanding of something so you call em a troll and put em on iggy.

I'm a "troll" but you're the one beginning posts with "you're a moron." :heh:

And then you get mad when I don't respect you for it? :umad:




But I do like what the myth of Marus Garvey was about. But it's like Santa Claus. Sorry to break it to you. Garvey was a hustler. Much like the black church y'all love to shyt on for the same reason, he was dipping his hands in that collection plate.

The ship he had wouldn't have made it across a stream, much less an ocean. But he collected MAD money. :heh:

Some of his peoples, Eason being one of them noticed this.

Now what's more believable to you? Use common sense. A whole lotta talk, but how many nikkas went back to Africa on the black star line? ZERO.

So Garvey was either a fraud a big ass failure. I believe he was a fraud because that nikka won. Spent the cash and still gets praised to this day.

Now show me the ship or the money. :yeshrug:
 

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a gangster rapper who was beefing with another rapper to increase his records sales was the last black hope.

fukk it we are done.

:russ: Who helped destroy more black lives than he helped saved :blessed: the last black hope :troll:
 

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I'm sayin tho, if you want Garvey to be alive in the 21st century why not just be a Garveyite?

In fact, there's great advantage to continuing some of the things he fought for. You can not only modernize the idea but also get rid of the deficiencies and side-step the temptations that influence a break from ideals. As oppose to talking about how people won't be receptive, or how we should even wish he was born in this time, actively finding creative ways to implement elements of Garveyism is not only a good method but something he himself would want. Truth is, his legacy lives through Black Nationalism and Pan-Africanism although they aren't exclusively phenomenons of Garveyism alone.

To me the issue is that people make bringing about these types of changes to be difficult, Pac said it best "One nikka teach two nikkaz, teach three nikkaz, teach four nikkaz, teach more nikkaz." If we want to lift up African peoples around the world then we gotta start small and bring slow tangible changes that can be measured in the day-to-day lives of those you wish to help. Jobs, gettin people sober from substance abuse and make them productive, re assimilating ex-cons, real youth outreach programs and initiatives, etc etc. You can't expect to suddenly lead the entire black nation to prominence if you haven't even addressed the people that's hurtin in your own neighborhood. It wouldn't be easy by no stretch, but it can be done.



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A lot of the Garveyism theology is taking place as we speak whether you realize is or not. At the end of last year, Haiti obtained associate membership status into the African Union.... A move that I applaud them for having the courage to do and then actually doing it. Diaspora unification is happing on a micro scale.... We need to get ready because the train will be ready to leave the station and black folks will still be talking about... "I need to pack my things."

Anybody can be a voice. God knows we need some new, honest and competent leadership.
 

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:wow: This thread has inspired me to pick up some literature on Garvey;I'm heading to the bookstore first thing tomorrow. Please feel free to drop any suggestion, brehs.

At the end of last year, Haiti obtained associate membership status into the African Union.

:leon: I didn't know this.
 
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