Is there really a shortage of black men for black women to date/married? OR

[Mr. Negative]

Based on the history of white supremacy in this country, it's intellectually dishonest to measure up the black women with the standards of white women, but you do it all the time.
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you

behold the dichotomy of gender relations amongst black men and women:

the prevailing thought that it's easier for a man to make $100,000 a year than it is for a woman to lose 20 pounds.

 

[Malik]

Who exactly are you talking about models and actresses or everyday women?
When you see a dime white chick with an average looking white dude you better believe he is paid or has good dikk because relationships are about what people are bring in to the table. The women is brining her looks and what would the man be bringing.... a kind heart
Let's face it in this world that not an even exchange.
As for your second point most black men are not ready pre 30 to get married and start a family so this leaves black women who want to marry young at a disadvantage unless they start to look for other racial options.
I don't know any young black women that find hardworking black men boring unless they are teenage girls, and/or hood rats, so stop the bull shyt.

I guess you don't read........because I clearly said those white guys are educated with good jobs but, the point is more white chicks would rather date stable guys like that than waste their youth trying to snag Leonardo Dicaprio. You gonna see what you wanna see though, so I'm not about to go back and forth. I see too many broads (Instagram being ground zero) that fit this bill to a tee.

 

[Malik]

And more black women should date out of their race @GiGi. People want to call them bed wenches but, at the end of the day, roughly half of black women will not get married in their lifetime. If you wanna twiddle your thumbs and hope you're on the right side of that, that's on you. Being pro-black and fiercely loyal to black men but, lonely as hell. Be happy.

 

[GiGi]

I'm in DC......and everytime I'm at a majority white function, I always see a handful of couples like this......where the girl is really beautiful and the guy is ehh.....and I know if the girl was black she'd probably wouldn't be with a herb like that. She'd be looking for Boris Kodjoe in a business suit or Trey Songz or some other exciting guy like that. Dennis from marketing would get no love from her.....

Please expound.

Because I notice that when black women date guys who are not as attractive, black men make comments about the black woman dating the guy for his money. This is particularly true when black women date white men. We can't win either way.

And I also believe that it is really important to make the distinction between the types of men that black women from different SES backgrounds, educational backgrounds, professions and careers, etc tend to view as desirable mates because we can not be grouped singularly.

 

[GiGi]

"Educated" guys are still guys, and if "Keisha" is bad enough she'll get just as many looks as "Natasha".
Guys do not rock like females do in this regard.

I didn't say chit about anyone getting married, only that demands can be unlimited. That's a personal thing.
I'll let you tell it about what sisters know, and whatnot...

Not completely true. Dr. Brad Bradley may find Keisha attractive. He may even casually date her. But if she is not poised enough or intelligent enough to fit into his world then he will not marry her.

 

[Taadow]

Not completely true. Dr. Brad Bradley may find Keisha attractive. He may even casually date her. But if she is not poised enough or intelligent enough to fit into his world then he will not marry her.

That doesn't conflict with what I said.

 

[GiGi]

That doesn't conflict with what I said.

Maybe I misread your point. But I was stating that despite her looks, Keisha does not have the ability to have her demands met any more than Natasha does. And actually Keisha has fewer options because "pretty" girls are a dime a dozen. And women who are highly educated AND attractive are not.

Men date based upon looks but upper income men usually marry based on more than just looks. The wives of most very wealthy men (outside of the entertainment industry) are not very attractive at all.

 

[Tae]

I guess you don't read........because I clearly said those white guys are educated with good jobs but, the point is more white chicks would rather date stable guys like that than waste their youth trying to snag Leonardo Dicaprio. You gonna see what you wanna see though, so I'm not about to go back and forth. I see too many broads (Instagram being ground zero) that fit this bill to a tee.

I guess you don't read or write clearly. Educated with a good job does not = paid, if that is what you meant you should have said rich or wrote out a cohesive point.
Most black women (Instagram models do not = most black women) are not wasting time trying to bag Trey Songz, they are looking for stable men so again you are making baseless points unless you are talking about actresses and models.

 

[Malik]

Explain why half the people in this thread share the same viewpoint then?

 

[Tae]

behold the dichotomy of gender relations amongst black men and women:

the prevailing thought that it's easier for a man to make $100,000 a year than it is for a woman to lose 20 pounds.

Next time you ask why aren't more black women submissive think about the way white supremacy holds black men back and how that affects black households or the lack thereof.
Oh and please do remember, most lower income white women are over weight, just as most higher income black women and white women and/or who are married to higher income men are in shape.
It doesn't take a genius to put two and two together.

 

[GiGi]

is the true statement should be a shortage of black men WITH 6 SIX FIGURE INCOMES.

So i'm sitting here watching cnn who's previewing a show on shortage of black men for black women in the community and u see these so called professional women talking about brothers being in jail, not in college, or the same excuse dating outside there race.

There's no shortage of real good brothers out here. the real shortage is in your mind and your fake reality of white culture that every good brother should have the same qualities as biff and todd.

There's plenty of good brothers out here. they might not have the COLI IT certs, but there's brothers out here working 9 to 5 and hell even working 24/7 to make it.

I decided to revisit the OP.

Here's the problem with the bolded statement. Some black men (particularly those at higher income levels) complain that black women are holding them to the same standards as we do white men (financially) but black men demand that black women not only meet but EXCEED the standards of white women (in terms of attractiveness) in order to be considered acceptable partners. But for some reason only the expectations of black men are viewed as agreeable.

 

[The ADD]

Thread from April got a lifeline

 

[mamba]

I'm of the belief if your gonna date you can search and find only what you can offer. Most black women do not feel that way. I recently cut a chick off I was taking out cuz I would jump through hoops to take her out and she would just accept invites to go out and offer nothing. Then she wanna complain too... aw naw hell naw.

Those are the worst types. You be planning all kinds of shyt. And they never come up with something creative. That shyt gets boring quick. I'm all about men taking the initiative and shyt. But, sometimes she should come up with some shyt, too. That's why a lot of these bytches want an exciting nikka. Because their lives are boring otherwise.

 

[mamba]

Exactly its not a plus its the equivalent of us using money to holla at a chick then say she gotta pay her own way. Ole bait and switch stuff. What added benefit does her money bring her if she want to act stingy with it similar to a chick with less. Then it goes back to looks and personality.

Droppin' knowledge. These brehettes don't hear you tho.

 

[philmonroe]

Not to bash black women but, from my own personal experience, most gorgeous dime level black women aren't checking for regular black men with jobs. They feel they deserve Trey Songs or Chris Brown. However you'll see a lot of gorgeous dime level white women with boring average looking white boys.......now those white boys will have good jobs, college education, etc.......but the point is they're not out here thinking they deserve Leonardo Dicaprio or Ryan Gossling. The culture is different, I guess. Their parents tell their girls to find a husband when their young whereas black chicks think that boring hardworking dude isn't good enough until she's way older and realizes Trey Songz ain't coming For example, there's no reason that women like Melyssa Ford, Mya or Sanaa Lathan don't have husbands

Um you kinda messing up your argument cause it sounds like you talking about Instagram type chick instead of normal everyday chicks. Of course them instagram chicks after Trey and the ballers that's what they do and if you surprised the jokes on you. It also comes off as some entitlement that we would crush chicks for. The ole I have a house, car, job, so I deserve a top 5 chick it just don't work that easy. You also doing another thing that at dislike hyping up whites like they don't do the same whining some dudes on here do about white women. Dudes that aren't winning going to complain period. That's how you can easily tell folks haven't been around other groups in any meaningful way cause if you have you'd saw people with the same complaints regardless of race.

I'm in DC......and everytime I'm at a majority white function, I always see a handful of couples like this......where the girl is really beautiful and the guy is ehh.....and I know if the girl was black she'd probably wouldn't be with a herb like that. She'd be looking for Boris Kodjoe in a business suit or Trey Songz or some other exciting guy like that. Dennis from marketing would get no love from her.....

I think this is true to some extent because it stereotypically seems like more white women get it.

Those are the worst types. You be planning all kinds of shyt. And they never come up with something creating. That shyt gets boring quick. I'm all about men taking the initiative and shyt. But, sometimes she should come up with some shyt, too. That's why a lot of these bytches want an exciting nikka. Because their lives are boring otherwise.

Yeah some chicks good for this shyt. Ole its the man jobs ass chicks. Just be honest and say your boring and don't have any ideal of where to go.