Is there really a shortage of black men for black women to date/married? OR

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1. "Keisha" can have as many demands as "Natasha", if she's bad. We all know this.

How old are you breh?:upsetfavre:

Educated guys these days tend NOT to date women that aren't of equal status financially, in other words alot of women think men aren't MEN anymore becuase many have the same requirements for men as men have for women.

So I disagree with that, the odds of a fine broke chick MARRYING a doctor, especially a black women are slim to NONE. This is one of the many things black women complain about (being seen as UNATTRACTIVE to men) in other words " I cannot date UP freely like white women can" or asian.

So Keisha is up a creek and many sisters know this, they have to be educated to even get a educated man because educated men tend not to marry black women below them, all the negro bed wrenches if you look at them are highly educated, then white men marry them, but white women can pretty much be a dumb blonde and marry wealth (look at that dudes wife who plays for the Phillies)
 

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What's gonna happen when that brotha is finally getting shine when he gets paper after all them years fighting to get up to corporate america ladder? If he dates out, you'll get mad. You wanna diss him when he's broke then come back when he gets right:heh:

Do you really think black men don't think of this?:deadrose:

Think about what you wrote for a sec:mindblown:

Breh please:stopitslime:
Were the white women checking for the brotha when he was broke??? Nope. They came along when he got paid but somehow he'll excuse that gold digging in white women but throw it in a black woman's face :camby:
 

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Breh please:stopitslime:
Were the white women checking for the brotha when he was broke??? Nope. They came along when he got paid but somehow he'll excuse that gold digging in white women but throw it in a black woman's face :camby:

Poor retort breh:stopitslime::wow::wow:

Factor in the fact that you usually deal with your own people, you don't deal with outsiders usually in your youth, if you're black, your circle is mostly black. You tend to race mix:troll:with age breh, broke dudes hustling through school and trying to get right don't even deal with other races of women no where near the level of dealing with black women

So when you make it and your option start expanding you can easily be taken away by others.

Look at the social circle
 

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Breh please:stopitslime:
Were the white women checking for the brotha when he was broke??? Nope. They came along when he got paid but somehow he'll excuse that gold digging in white women but throw it in a black woman's face :camby:
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Proof retort breh:stopitslime::wow::wow:

Factor in the fact that you usually deal with your own people, you don't deal with outsiders usually in your youth, if you're black, your circle is mostly black. You tend to race mix:troll:with age breh, broke dudes hustling through school and trying to get right don't even deal with other races of women no where near the level of dealing with black women

So when you make it and your option start expanding you can easily be taken away by others.

Look at the social circle

Don't matter. There were probably plenty of black women who were checking for him and he ignored them.
Don't throw that bull shyt you weren't checking for me when I was broke on black women (let's face it most black women date black men who are broke or working 9-5s anyway) and then give gold digging white chicks a pass. The dudes who use that shtty excuse are just looking for a way to shyt on black women and put white women or other races of women on a pedestal. End of story.
 

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Its not about a higher salary making a woman "more attractive" to men but about women wanting men who are at a similar level (or better) financially.

This is standard in almost every culture on earth. Why is it so outrageous for a woman to want a man who is her SES equal or superior?
Its about making a higher salary because like you said a few post down you "deserve" equal or more. Thats why I said some women try to circumvent the system like dudes (thinking money makes them more attractive when they only want to use it so they can "deserve" someone who makes more) Men esp with means have a way wider net than the avg chick in the same situation because they will date down and that's just real.

(or better), you made it seem like an added plus. Do you take that back or not?
Exactly its not a plus its the equivalent of us using money to holla at a chick then say she gotta pay her own way. Ole bait and switch stuff. What added benefit does her money bring her if she want to act stingy with it similar to a chick with less. Then it goes back to looks and personality.

You've gotta realize, if you're a black woman in a white collar job, and you're not willing to date out or a man making less than you, your options are very narrow. It's already a small percentage of men up there. On top of that you're going to have to deal with

1. Women that are younger than you. It's already known that men generally view women in their lower 20's as the physical ideal.
2. Women of other races. If there's a good black man making a decent amount of bank, you best believe there's women from other races plotting as well.
3. Women that are more attractive. This is self explanatory.
4. Women who make less than you. Men do not require their women to bring in as much, so they're willing to date across a wider spectrum.

All of these combine to make reasons to tell black women to be realistic out here. You don't want a short guy? You want your man to make as much as you? You consider yourself traditional and won't approach a man? Well then be prepared to watch a lot of men go by. It's just the numbers of the situation. Something has got to give eventually.
Yeah this is true for women and men but I agree 10000% people not being real with themselves out here then complaining when they can't do what they already knew was improbable in the first place.
 

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Based on the history of white supremacy in this country, it's intellectually dishonest to measure up the black man with the standards of white men.
 

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The real elephant in the room is the income levels between white men and white women, literally white women make about 55% of what white men make so white women usually marry into a system of patriarchy off the bat while black men usually are on equal status with their women, as you know since most of us make under 50k a year, if a sister makes 35k with two kids what's the point of her dating a man who makes 35k?:patrice:

:mindblown: I just don't understand this mindset at all. What's the minimum salary requirement to date the "35k woman"?
 

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Based on the history of white supremacy in this country, it's intellectually dishonest to measure up the black man with the standards of white men.


Based on the history of white supremacy in this country, it's intellectually dishonest to measure up the black women with the standards of white women, but you do it all the time.
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you :smugbiden:
 

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Not to bash black women but, from my own personal experience, most gorgeous dime level black women aren't checking for regular black men with jobs. They feel they deserve Trey Songs or Chris Brown. However you'll see a lot of gorgeous dime level white women with boring average looking white boys.......now those white boys will have good jobs, college education, etc.......but the point is they're not out here thinking they deserve Leonardo Dicaprio or Ryan Gossling. The culture is different, I guess. Their parents tell their girls to find a husband when their young whereas black chicks think that boring hardworking dude isn't good enough until she's way older and realizes Trey Songz ain't coming :patrice: For example, there's no reason that women like Melyssa Ford, Mya or Sanaa Lathan don't have husbands :patrice:
 

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Not to bash black women but, from my own personal experience, most gorgeous dime level black women aren't checking for regular black men with jobs. They feel they deserve Trey Songs or Chris Brown. However you'll see a lot of gorgeous dime level white women with boring average looking white boys.......now those white boys will have good jobs, college education, etc.......but the point is they're not out here thinking they deserve Leonardo Dicaprio or Ryan Gossling. The culture is different, I guess. Their parents tell their girls to find a husband when their young whereas black chicks think that boring hardworking dude isn't good enough until she's way older and realizes Trey Songz ain't coming :patrice: For example, there's no reason that women like Melyssa Ford, Mya or Sanaa Lathan don't have husbands :patrice:

Perhaps its because I'm from LA but a LOT of "dime" white women chase celebs, producers and writers etc in the same manner as the "dime" black women. But white women have the advantage of being considered a catch by nearly all groups of men.

ETA: I hate to say this but beautiful black women like Taraji P Henson, Nia Long, Vivica Fox, Sanaa Lathan, Mya, etc tend to lose when they completely rebuff non-black men as romantic partners.
 

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Perhaps its because I'm from LA but a LOT of "dime" white women chase celebs, producers and writers etc in the same manner as the "dime" black women. But white women have the advantage of being considered a catch by nearly all groups of men.

I'm in DC......and everytime I'm at a majority white function, I always see a handful of couples like this......where the girl is really beautiful and the guy is ehh.....and I know if the girl was black she'd probably wouldn't be with a herb like that. She'd be looking for Boris Kodjoe in a business suit or Trey Songz or some other exciting guy like that. Dennis from marketing would get no love from her.....
 

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men r out there....bw want some super man thats built like lebron and has the personality of obama and tupac


too b fair, all american women have unreal standards
 

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Not to bash black women but, from my own personal experience, most gorgeous dime level black women aren't checking for regular black men with jobs. They feel they deserve Trey Songs or Chris Brown. However you'll see a lot of gorgeous dime level white women with boring average looking white boys.......now those white boys will have good jobs, college education, etc.......but the point is they're not out here thinking they deserve Leonardo Dicaprio or Ryan Gossling. The culture is different, I guess. Their parents tell their girls to find a husband when their young whereas black chicks think that boring hardworking dude isn't good enough until she's way older and realizes Trey Songz ain't coming :patrice: For example, there's no reason that women like Melyssa Ford, Mya or Sanaa Lathan don't have husbands :patrice:

Who exactly are you talking about models and actresses or everyday women?
When you see a dime white chick with an average looking white dude you better believe he is paid or has good dikk because relationships are about what people are bring in to the table. The women is brining her looks and what would the man be bringing.... a kind heart :bryan:
Let's face it in this world that not an even exchange.
As for your second point most black men are not ready pre 30 to get married and start a family so this leaves black women who want to marry young at a disadvantage unless they start to look for other racial options.
I don't know any young black women that find hardworking black men boring unless they are teenage girls, and/or hood rats, so stop the bull shyt.
 

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How old are you breh?:upsetfavre:

Educated guys these days tend NOT to date women that aren't of equal status financially, in other words alot of women think men aren't MEN anymore becuase many have the same requirements for men as men have for women.

So I disagree with that, the odds of a fine broke chick MARRYING a doctor, especially a black women are slim to NONE. This is one of the many things black women complain about (being seen as UNATTRACTIVE to men) in other words " I cannot date UP freely like white women can" or asian.

So Keisha is up a creek and many sisters know this, they have to be educated to even get a educated man because educated men tend not to marry black women below them, all the negro bed wrenches if you look at them are highly educated, then white men marry them, but white women can pretty much be a dumb blonde and marry wealth (look at that dudes wife who plays for the Phillies)

"Educated" guys are still guys, and if "Keisha" is bad enough she'll get just as many looks as "Natasha".
Guys do not rock like females do in this regard.


I didn't say chit about anyone getting married, only that demands can be unlimited. That's a personal thing.
I'll let you tell it about what sisters know, and whatnot...
 
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