Is there really a shortage of black men for black women to date/married? OR

[mamba]

Please expound?

What makes you traditional? Explain.

 

[Malcolmxxx_23]

Please expound?

So you okay with
Cleaning the house
Cooking
Laundry
Catering
Cleaning the outside of his toenail

You good with that

That's traditional

 

[GZR]

Derek doing his dirt as always.

 

[Londilon]

is the true statement should be a shortage of black men WITH 6 SIX FIGURE INCOMES.

So i'm sitting here watching cnn who's previewing a show on shortage of black men for black women in the community and u see these so called professional women talking about brothers being in jail, not in college, or the same excuse dating outside there race.

There's no shortage of real good brothers out here. the real shortage is in your mind and your fake reality of white culture that every good brother should have the same qualities as biff and todd.

There's plenty of good brothers out here. they might not have the COLI IT certs, but there's brothers out here working 9 to 5 and hell even working 24/7 to make it.

CNN doesn't cover any other dating statics on other races. When will people learn that the media is fashioned to be as negative as possible towards blacks?

 

[GiGi]

So you okay with
Cleaning the house
Cooking
Laundry
Catering
Cleaning the outside of his toenail

You good with that

That's traditional

I do not have an issue with cooking and cleaning et al. I was raised to be a traditional woman. Yes, I currently have a great career and make fairly good money but when I marry and have children I expect my husband to take over financially until our children are at least 3 yrs old.

Why is this marriage model outrageous to some black men? My father was the primary provider.

 

[godkiller]

I do not have an issue with cooking and cleaning et al. I was raised to be a traditional woman. Yes, I currently have a great career and make fairly good money but when I marry and have children I expect my husband to take over financially until our children are at least 3 yrs old.

Why is this marriage model outrageous to some black men? My father was the primary provider.

I remember you implied that black men weren't masculine in the past, among other ridiculous notions. In study, black men rank the highest in masculinity across female groups. This assertion that black men don't take up the "traditional" role in relationships is ridiculous. Black men sometimes are too masochistic and masculine, not the other way around. Dudes take the "anti-simp" mentality like it's a religion. This is why some people are amazed when they meet a soft spoken, reasonable, suburban black guy. All of this means you are a delusional wench. And since you don't like black men, I don't why you're even posting on this issue. You're just here to recycle your racist ideas about black men like trolls do. Begone.

 

[GiGi]

I remember you implied that black men weren't masculine in the past, among other ridiculous notions. This assertion that black men don't take up the "traditional" role in marriages is ridiculous. Black men sometimes are too masochistic and masculine, not the other way around. Dudes take the "anti-simp" mentality like it's a religion. Since you don't like black men, I don't why matters to you at all. You're just here to recycle your racist ideas about black men. Begone.

No I did not say that...EVER. Please quote me as doing so or retract that statement.

I have also NEVER stated that I do not like black men. Please quote me on that as well.

 

[Tae]

Let's keep things in perspective, first other races aren't popping off like that. For every doctor (all races), there's 5+ cats working a low-skill job. Every CONCERNED father wants their daughter to be with a man that can provide and not settle. Of course fathers have preferences but it isn't exclusive. A black mother raising a black son should know America has a high chance of not being kind to him. It is what it is.

That's exactly why I made those examples.
Most people end up with someone on their level. The problem is that in the black community there is a strict divide because unlike other racial groups there is a narrow margin on income brackets between men and women.
There is a small percentage of upper middle class black men and women, and the black men out earn the black women. The upper middle class black women are either married to black men or are married outside of their race, they don't stay single for long. The same can be said for the men except some the men may not be interested in settling down until later in life.
However, when it comes to working class/middle class these are the women who are hoping to land the upper middle class men but chances are he is taken. Now most of these women will either: find a working class black man that is on, or slightly above or below her level, or keep holding out for the single upper middle class black men.
There is also the poor working class, and these are the women who are either happy they have a man and don't care how much he make as long as he's making something, or are upset that middle class and upper middle class men are not checking for them.

 

[godkiller]

That's exactly why I made those examples.
Most people end up with someone on their level. The problem is that in the black community there is a strict divide because unlike other racial groups there is a narrow margin on income brackets between men and women.
There is a small percentage of upper middle class black men and women, and the black men out earn the black women. The upper middle class black women are either married to black men or are married outside of their race, they don't stay single for long. The same can be said for the men except some the men may not be interested in settling down until later in life.
However, when it comes to working class/middle class these are the women who are hoping to land the upper middle class men but chances are he is taken. Now most of these women will either: find a working class black man that is on, or slightly above or below her level, or keep holding out for the single upper middle class black men.
There is also the poor working class, and these are the women who are either happy they have a man and don't care how much he make as long as he's making something, or are upset that middle class and upper middle class men are not checking for them.

None of this matters as relates to individuals. A monogamous relationship only requires one person, and there are (literally)( hundreds of millions of black men in the world. Anyone who says they "can't find a black man" isn't looking hard enough. /endthread

 

[Tae]

Like @King Poetic says, there is no shortage of black men, there is a lack of insight and perception. A brotha working a 9-5 job can be a good provider; a man doesn't have to be a millionaire to be a provider. That's nottrue. The 9-5 working class man is the one who built the white middle class and the American economy. As those women would "settle" for a 9-5 working man, anyone can. And regardless of what a woman does, she is "settling". There's no such thing as a perfect man or perfect woman. Every man settles for a less-than-perfect woman eventually. So we all settle, the only question is with whom.

It's not about a perfect man or man it's about people wanting to fulfill traditional roles. Not only do most men want to be the provider, most women are looking for a provider that can help her hold down the household.
A brotha working a 9-5 at Jackson Hewitt can obviously be a good provider but he can be a good provider depending on the income level of the woman.

 

[Tae]

None of this matters as relates to individuals. A monogamous relationship only requires one person, and there are (literally)( hundreds of millions of black men in the world. Anyone who says they "can't find a black man" isn't looking hard enough. /endthread

If you want to believe that income levels don't affect peoples relationship status on an individual level then do you.
I concur that Anyone who says they "can't find a black man" isn't looking hard enough. Just don't let me hear you talking about there are no good black women left.

 

[godkiller]

It's not about a perfect man or man it's about people wanting to fulfill traditional roles. Not only do most men want to be the provider, most women are looking for a provider that can help her hold down the household.
A brotha working a 9-5 at Jackson Hewitt can obviously be a good provider but he can be a good provider depending on the income level of the woman.

Again, it's all perception and expectation. Many men fulfil male roles very well for a large multitude of women. There is no one-size-fits-all for women. And women who aren't happy with a 9-5 have a right to seek something else. However they shouldn't complain about a lack of options; they should complain about their own narrow-mindedness. History and life proves a 9-5 guy can fufil his role fine in a relationship so long as his women is happy. Even though I'm in school to increase my earning potential, I won't be considering a gold digger.

If you want to believe that income levels don't affect peoples relationship status on an individual level then do you.

Sure they do, but it's dependent on the individual. Height affects relationships and people's ability to get into relationships, but height in and of itself only matters as much as a woman makes it. Some women make it a requirement, others don't.

I concur that Anyone who says they "can't find a black man" isn't looking hard enough. Just don't let me hear you talking about there are no good black women left.

I have never asserted such. It's not a lack of black women, it's a lack of reasonable ones

 

[GiGi]

@Roddy Right I noticed that you did not respond to my request that you quote me on stating that I dislike black men and that I also said that black men were not masculine.

Please either respond by quoting my posts which make those statements or please retract your previous post which makes those claims.

 

[Jone2three45]

is the true statement should be a shortage of black men WITH 6 SIX FIGURE INCOMES.

So i'm sitting here watching cnn who's previewing a show on shortage of black men for black women in the community and u see these so called professional women talking about brothers being in jail, not in college, or the same excuse dating outside there race.

There's no shortage of real good brothers out here. the real shortage is in your mind and your fake reality of white culture that every good brother should have the same qualities as biff and todd.

There's plenty of good brothers out here. they might not have the COLI IT certs, but there's brothers out here working 9 to 5 and hell even working 24/7 to make it.

 

[Scott Larock]

Real talk.The middle ground is gone.It's like a scale without the beam or the fulcrum.


It's either the baller or the bum ass dude.


The typical 9 to 5 blue collar brother is like the invisible man nowadays.He doen't have the time or the energy to match the bum ass dude.The bum ass preys on females for survival.He works on his womanizing skills and knows how to appeal to/entertain women.To a lot of chicks, he's convenient.He can stay at home and watch the kids, have dinner ready, and be a fully energized penis at he end of the day.shyt...she can cut down on her daycare expenses and get her back blown out every night


We already know why the 9 to 5 brother can't compete with the baller.No need to even discuss it

Yep, no middle ground, the 35k black man with a little gut who shops at marshalls is probably single. The bum nikka helps with child care expenses, the educated brother is a go but the sister gotta fight off the vultures around her man. The average black man is invisible in American culture. The thug can hit random women and serve a purpose, even if he has no money.

They get the left overs

This, most women realize this once they've been single for a long time and no one wants them anymore, they look for the middle man then and they have a hard time finding one and marry jesus

4.7 percent of americans earn over 100k per year

10 percent of Americans earn more then 50k

90 percent of black People earn less then 50k per year.

So ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

LOL, it's called white supremacy, black folks, you'd be surprised how easy it is to lead women.

There are no guarantees but the idea of a good man to a lot of black women is extremes. They want a handsome man who looks like an Idris Elba or Denzel, making 6 figures plus, who pays for everything, great body, nice cars etc. But if a woman lands a guy like that all her insecurities are coming out because she's gotta fight off every bytch cuz they will be throwing p*ssy at the nikka too. 90% of women want to fukk 10% of guys. You have a better chance of being in a happy relationship with an average looking guy making 50K, who drives a mid priced sedan who treats you right. It's a shame because women look too much towards the media to dictate what a relationship is supposed to be. Good relationships are boring .

The real elephant in the room is the income levels between white men and white women, literally white women make about 55% of what white men make so white women usually marry into a system of patriarchy off the bat while black men usually are on equal status with their women, as you know since most of us make under 50k a year, if a sister makes 35k with two kids what's the point of her dating a man who makes 35k?

When you really break it down the women make 70 cents on the dollar thing isn't really true for whites in general, when you factor in all races of women that's true but for whites only white women make half of what white men make,

Sip on that and tell me if it makes sense that "white women seem more submissive" than other races

Others ethic groups rely on culture, once they accept american culture you'll see their numbers looking like black folks as well.