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Why would I pay attention to trends when that time can be spent learning a new skill or building a business?

Why do you care so much what ignorant people think? You think Diddy, 50 Cent, Lebron care about what wenches think?

Its how you can gain leverage to change the perception of the image of the black male, for starters. You can't let your legit accomplishments go in the dark. You need some positive reinforcements to uplift the mindstate of the black male and the black family.
 

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Someone wrote that black men have never really been respected as a group :mjpls: Cap. Historically, it ranged from highly respected to the opposite. Things seemed to take a really bad turn around the late middle ages, when black people started to get associated with slavery.
 

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Its how you can gain leverage to change the perception of the image of the black male, for starters. You can't let your legit accomplishments go in the dark. You need some positive reinforcements to uplift the mindstate of the black male and the black family.

Have you ever heard of the saying "actions speak louder that words."? I'm not about to prove myself to anti black wenches. They aren't anybody important to the point of proving myself and having debate.

You don't have to speak to change perception. Let your success speak for you.
 

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Ehhh
Agree to disagree


Post what they said about wenches on social media. I don't recall Lebron wasting his time on black women who hate black men.

White man ain't got rid of black men, why should I'm supposed to care what wenches think?
 

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And i’ll ask you again, if black women can play catch up, why can’t black men? It’s 2022 and y’all are crying every month about not being seen in television advertisements, lmao.

You’re talking as if black women didn’t have to fight for their right to vote AFTER “women” had the right to vote. You act like black women didn’t and don’t have their own specific issues they fought for and were easily given things because of WW. Do you know how ahistorical that is?

You are downplaying the strides that they’ve made in a sexist and racist society…why? What are you trying to gain here? White women were not handing out treats trying to get BW on their side. WW have consistently opposed BW throughout history. Do you know nothing about, “AINT I WOMEN?”

Even if what you’re saying is true, you have yet to explain why black men can’t do the same? Simply follow the white mans blueprint and dig yourselves out of the hole.

You Black Feminists really are full of shyt.

You'll be the first to complain that "Black Men are the only men who compare themselves to their women instead of other men" when it comes to success, economics and achievements. But you won't compare yourselves when it comes to that.... to other women :mjlol:

And if I asked you why Black Women are behind Asian and White Women in terms of say earnings your reasonings would be the same or along the lines the ones a Black Man would use with regards to why Black men are behind Asian and White men financially:mjlol:.

With the data I could easily make arguments that "Black women are simply slackers and don't work as good which is why Asian and White women out earn them and have increased their income in the last 20 years whilst Black women barely have" or that there's "no racism as Asian Women are the 3rd highest earners in America so why can't Black Women follow the blue print, dig themselves out and do the same? :jbhmm:" but I'm not on some c00n on gender divide bullshyt and won't ever play down the racial element which is why this happens to Black Women, like women like you are on with regards to Black Men.

You can acknowledge that society is "racist" when it comes to Black Women, but apparently it's not when it comes to Black Men (who are also black) who apparently now just need to follow "the white mans blueprint". Black Feminists y'all :pachaha:
 

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You Black Feminists really are full of shyt.

You'll be the first to complain that "Black Men are the only men who compare themselves to their women instead of other men" when it comes to success, economics and achievements. But you won't compare yourselves when it comes to that.... to other women :mjlol:

And if I asked you why Black Women are behind Asian and White Women in terms of say earnings your reasonings would be the same or along the lines the ones a Black Man would use with regards to why Black men are behind Asian and White men financially:mjlol:.

With the data I could easily make arguments that "Black women are simply slackers and don't work as good which is why Asian and White women out earn them and have increased their income in the last 20 years whilst Black women barely have" or that there's "no racism as Asian Women are the 3rd highest earners in America so why can't Black Women follow the blue print, dig themselves out and do the same? :jbhmm:" but I'm not on some c00n on gender divide bullshyt and won't ever play down the racial element which is why this happens to Black Women, like women like you are on with regards to Black Men.

You can acknowledge that society is "racist" when it comes to Black Women, but apparently it's not when it comes to Black Men (who are also black) who apparently now just need to follow "the white mans blueprint". Black Feminists y'all :pachaha:
I don't think all feminism is bad, but the neo-liberal kind like this women seems to follow definitely is. That sh*t is a straight up fifth column.
 

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The BM who have resources and wealth coming together to build more. In other words, say your a breh who's an attorney and you know a few other brehs elsewhere that are also attorneys--why don't all of you eventually come together and start your own firm? The brehs who are celebs, yes they do great things for their communities--we need more of that, more brehs coming together to build schools, to create programs for little boys, to come in and mentor little boys, to encourage more black boys to get into STEM careers and go to HBCUS. More black brehs coming together to police neighborhoods (especially from gangs) the same way we see crazy Karen's and Brads policing their neighborhoods calling the police on anyone who looks suspect. More brehs getting on the brehs who are commiting the violence in our communities, killing children, women, and making them so unsafe. Brehs coming together and using their money to buy land, to buy communities, to start businesses and hire more of us at the businesses. Brehs teaching financial literacy classes, entreprenership classes, and other vital skills to young brehs to help set them up for life. More brehs being involved in their children's lives--people constantly bring up single mothers and it's a fair point, but the mothers are the ones who stick around, the men don't, and women can't raise a boy into a man, only a man can. We need more men involved in their kid's lives, even if they aren't involved withe the mother. Honestly I feel like more brehs should probably even get full custody of their sons starting at certain age, but that's another point. Starting more organizations to support boys. One advantage I see white parents doing is they take their little boys camping and hunting, teaching them survival skills and other masculine activities at young ages. We need more brehs reframining what is masculinity--tying it to other activities outside of their dikks, rap, and other things that have honestly been very harmful to brehs overall.

We need black male teachers and probably black male schools. As men, there's expectation for you to be the leaders. To lead the change you want to see. Yall complain about our community being a matriarchy, but as men yall can rise up and take it back, but some of yall just want to complain about it and aren't taking actions to band together with other bm to make it happen.

And if brehs really want the whole community behind them, giving them support, it does start with them supporting their women and their children as well. As the saying goes, behind every strong man is strong women lifting them up. And in the past BW were lifting BM up, but it's becoming less and less, because BW haven't seen returns. What I mean is that at the end of the day, as much shyt as WW talk about WM, they know who butters their bread-they know WM provide resources, jobs, safe communities, stability, etc. They know WM are always putting them on pedestals and making the rest of us consume content centered on how beautiful are WW--even when they can't stand their women, even when their women are on platforms going against them and targeting them. Wm will still throw everyone under the bus for their own women. The harsh reality is that in a lot of cases, BW are getting, jobs, finances, resources and help more from WM than from brehs. They *feel* as if they get more support from each other and the friendships and networks they've built than from brehs.

Meanwhile, marriage rate is low, Brehettes aren't able to practice to assortive mating like other groups:https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/marriagble-men-release.pdf

Brehs have been putting their women down, getting upset when WM invest in us because they are unable to, saying we aren't desirable and no on wants us, sharing every other negative stereoytpe about us, while boosting up nonbw. Then they turn around and ask BW to support them--do you see the disconnect? When you look at the big picture, it almost makes sense that some brehettes have resorted to admiring wm--because WM are giving bw resources, jobs, etc--things that BM are not. BW want BM to do that for them. BW want BM to put them above other women, to be more loyal to them.

BW would probably stop going in on yall and being so hateful and angry if they saw more of that happening, if we're keeping it buck, because a lot of that hatred is disappointment, frustration, and anger. And I do think some of the points @Lemons has made have been on on point about other groups not respecting BM. But I think doing the above things (helping police and maintain safe communities, building more schools, businesses, land and communities, getting married and/or at least being more active in your children's lives, putting your own women above there's, etc) would earn more respect from brehettes and from other groups.

Of course this is just my opinions based on the conversations I've had with other BW.

You pretty much summed up everything I’ve been saying and have been saying for awhile now. They are choosing to play dumb about what’s going on but it’s obvious to anyone who’s paying even a little attention.

They keep blaming white men for driving a wedge between the genders when that isn’t the case. Historically black women have rode extremely hard for black men. The amount of literature is immeasurable, so what changed?

Well in the last two decades or so, black men have substantially ramped up the, “black women are undesirable and us elevating foreign women is simply a ~preference~“ trope through music and various medias. And no one can deny that. It is a fact. There was an entire era of Twitter where dudes get popular degrading black women, specifically dark ones.

Black women basically said….”oh really? So this is how y’all feel? After we’ve fought for you and stood by you when everyone branded yall useless terrors? Aight. You’re on your own now”.

THAT is what is happening. Ain’t no white man putting a battery in these women's back. The battery is years of disrespect and maltreatment. That’s why there’s a push to divest. The idea is that black men consistently disrespect BW publicly and have nothing to offer so how bad can white men really be? How bad can other races of men really be? Why should we be loyal to men who literally brag about other women on a regular basis?

It’s very obvious what’s going on here but folks wanna play dumb cuz they’d have to admit that they haven’t held BW in high regard and now BW are returning the favor.

BW are historically the most loyal women to their race; in terms of marriage and preference so if they are turning away in significant numbers; something is wrong. It’s not white men becoming more desirable, it’s black men becoming LESS desirable to them from social and economic point of view.

Anyway, I agree with everything you’ve said. Those who know, know. Those who want to ignore reality are only hurting themselves.
 

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Post what they said about wenches on social media. I don't recall Lebron wasting his time on black women who hate black men.

White man ain't got rid of black men, why should I'm supposed to care what wenches think?
Obviously they're not going to post anything about wenches on social media about wenches, but push come to shove they're not going to speak out against divestors
 

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You Black Feminists really are full of shyt.

You'll be the first to complain that "Black Men are the only men who compare themselves to their women instead of other men" when it comes to success, economics and achievements. But you won't compare yourselves when it comes to that.... to other women :mjlol:

And if I asked you why Black Women are behind Asian and White Women in terms of say earnings your reasonings would be the same or along the lines the ones a Black Man would use with regards to why Black men are behind Asian and White men financially:mjlol:.

With the data I could easily make arguments that "Black women are simply slackers and don't work as good which is why Asian and White women out earn them and have increased their income in the last 20 years whilst Black women barely have" or that there's "no racism as Asian Women are the 3rd highest earners in America so why can't Black Women follow the blue print, dig themselves out and do the same? :jbhmm:" but I'm not on some c00n on gender divide bullshyt and won't ever play down the racial element which is why this happens to Black Women, like women like you are on with regards to Black Men.

You can acknowledge that society is "racist" when it comes to Black Women, but apparently it's not when it comes to Black Men (who are also black) who apparently now just need to follow "the white mans blueprint". Black Feminists y'all :pachaha:

Learn to read.

“Follow the white mens blueprint” was sarcasm because that person said black women didn’t start anything monumental, we just got scraps from the trails blazed by white women. Which is bullshyt. My point was that if he feels that way, then why can’t black men do the same? Why can’t they follow the white mans blueprint since he believes that’s what black women did to white women to make progress?

I obviously don’t have those feelings, that person stated the comparison game, I just threw it back at him. Again, learn to read and understand context and stop embarrassing yourself.
 

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You pretty much summed up everything I’ve been saying and have been saying for awhile now. They are choosing to play dumb about what’s going on but it’s obvious to anyone who’s paying even a little attention.

They keep blaming white men for driving a wedge between the genders when that isn’t the case. Historically black women have rode extremely hard for black men. The amount of literature is immeasurable, so what changed?

Well in the last two decades or so, black men have substantially ramped up the, “black women are undesirable and us elevating foreign women is simply a ~preference~“ trope through music and various medias. And no one can deny that. It is a fact. There was an entire era of Twitter where dudes get popular degrading black women, specifically dark ones.

Black women basically said….”oh really? So this is how y’all feel? After we’ve fought for you and stood by you when everyone branded yall useless terrors? Aight. You’re on your own now”.

THAT is what is happening. Ain’t no white man putting a battery in these women's back. The battery is years of disrespect and maltreatment. That’s why there’s a push to divest. The idea is that black men consistently disrespect BW publicly and have nothing to offer so how bad can white men really be? How bad can other races of men really be? Why should we be loyal to men who literally brag about other women on a regular basis?

It’s very obvious what’s going on here but folks wanna play dumb cuz they’d have to admit that they haven’t held BW in high regard and now BW are returning the favor.

BW are historically the most loyal women to their race; in terms of marriage and preference so if they are turning away in significant numbers; something is wrong. It’s not white men becoming more desirable, it’s black men becoming LESS desirable to them from social and economic point of view.

Anyway, I agree with everything you’ve said. Those who know, know. Those who want to ignore reality are only hurting themselves.

And when black women were calling this out, the men on this very forum were saying that black women were just jealous that black men had more options and were exercising them. I can find MANY threads expressing that very sentiment incase anyone wants to deny this.

Black women just started moving accordingly and welp, who has the options now? :yeshrug:
 

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This is the shyt I'm talking about.
These sisters turned into agents who are doing the dirty work for the WS and are actively trying to get us out the paint.
Yall now just realized it? Basically what happened was that divestors from youtube indoctrinated a small secton of black women during the 2010 to 2016 era. Then once social media blew up in 2016 you started to see those followers spread their rhetoric on twitter and tumblr. Eventually this all came to a head during quaranteen. People fell into rabbit holes on tiktok, discord and other platforms. I got a recording showing how a black woman admits that she discovered "problack women only" communities during quantateen because she had more free time. Tiktok made it to where almost all gen Z black women have some kind of "problack women only" element to them. Them divestors brainwashed the youngins.
 
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