Is society promoting Black Women and leaving Black Men behind?

[Burned Verses]

Just reading this thread and I have your answer:

1. look at the nasty way a lot of you are speaking about black women, more black people than ever are healing their generational trauma and making healthy boundaries. disrespect isn't going to be tolerated from anyone skinfolk or not.

2. you're blaming white people for everything. including shyt you could control and shyt you created yourself, for example: KS, Fresh and Fit and other pos ytbrs are becoming more known and they're more popular than the divestor channels. and many BW see these channels the bs they talk about and then who is supporting them and the fukk up shyt they're saying and so THEN you see them being directed to bullshyt divestor channels in response. Same coin different side.

3. ignoring your own accountability for any disdain bw would have due to bm's treatment of them ( let's not pretend DS bw weren't going thru hell in the past and that colorism and featurism isn't still a thing with black people or bullshyt lyrics nikkas scream out in the club about women)

4. BM abandoned bw and their community way before this "divestment" became a thing in the mainstream.
and if not outright abandoning their communities to rot, too many BM became outright menaces to it. It's nikkas killing nikkas ad nauseum in Chicago, Detroit, Bmoore and the black community need to address that shyt.

5. BM consciously choose to uplift shyt that tears their community and women down : thug culture, rap, colorism, no respect for family making, and no drive for higher education. Especially rap is nothing but c00ns who are cool with saying anything for a white man's $.

6. Even in this thread there are folks obsessed with frivolous shyt you think BW are getting from the gov. you nikkas are trying to compete with females and whining instead of building your own shyt, organizing, and collecting funds to build for a peaceful, more educated, financially stable black community.

What makes this sad is that this shyt has been said time and time again, but too many of y'all rather stick to the status quo bc it doesn't ask for you to do any hard work.

You're just going to get left behind bro if you refuse to drop the shyt that isn't working.

 

[JT-Money]

I'm surprised no one came for your head for posting this, but this is facts.

Generally I would be really weary of any outside groups offering to help Black Men specifically. Because what will they want in return?

Plus after at a certain point pride should kick in for a Man. And you won't accept handouts especially from people outside of our community.

 

[Ezekiel 25:17]

Just reading this thread and I have your answer:

1. look at the nasty way a lot of you are speaking about black women, more black people than ever are healing their generational trauma and making healthy boundaries. disrespect isn't going to be tolerated from anyone skinfolk or not.

2. you're blaming white people for everything. including shyt you could control and shyt you created yourself, for example: KS, Fresh and Fit and other pos ytbrs are becoming more known and they're more popular than the divestor channels. and many BW see these channels the bs they talk about and then who is supporting them and the fukk up shyt they're saying and so THEN you see them being directed to bullshyt divestor channels in response. Same coin different side.

3. ignoring your own accountability for any disdain bw would have due to bm's treatment of them ( let's not pretend DS bw weren't going thru hell in the past and that colorism and featurism isn't still a thing with black people or bullshyt lyrics nikkas scream out in the club about women)

4. BM abandoned bw and their community way before this "divestment" became a thing in the mainstream.
and if not outright abandoning their communities to rot, too many BM became outright menaces to it. It's nikkas killing nikkas ad nauseum in Chicago, Detroit, Bmoore and the black community need to address that shyt.

5. BM consciously choose to uplift shyt that tears their community and women down : thug culture, rap, colorism, no respect for family making, and no drive for higher education. Especially rap is nothing but c00ns who are cool with saying anything for a white man's $.

6. Even in this thread there are folks obsessed with frivolous shyt you think BW are getting from the gov. you nikkas are trying to compete with females and whining instead of building your own shyt, organizing, and collecting funds to build for a peaceful, more educated, financially stable black community.

What makes this sad is that this shyt has been said time and time again, but too many of y'all rather stick to the status quo bc it doesn't ask for you to do any hard work.

You're just going to get left behind bro if you refuse to drop the shyt that isn't working.

On average Black men are still making more than black women, which means there's still good black men out there for black women.

I agree with your points except Kevin Samuels, he tells women to take accountability.

 

[CarmelBarbie]

Wow

The way you're talking about, Black women are thriving!
But when I look out my window, I see men and women struggling to get by

So the Black women that made it and are being promoted, good for them, but what have they done to garner the communities respect except propel their own advancement?

And to keep it really a buck, I'm of the opinion that the Black community is in shambles because of how American society was designed and what we've been through

But if we want to play the blame game there's enough to go around for MEN and WOMEN

Got women out here procreating with bums, then complaining about how nikkas ain't shyt, but nah, it's not their fault for picking them

You literally can't say anything critical about women no more

I remember when Barack was speaking on young men, and said "You don't have to have a bunch of women to be the man."

Imagine if he said that shyt in reverse?

There is no Black community any more, but yall expect men to be stewards of something that no longer exists, when any leadership would get pushback

Everything you said was c00n shyt wrapped up in nice words

Where did I say bw were thriving though? What examples did I give that illustrates that? Because if you read my post I didn’t talk about bw’s status, I said that most of the jobs, resources, opportunities and support bw get are from the WM or each other. I said that BW are more likely to stick around for the children they helped make and that’s based on stats. How is any of that illustrating that bw are thriving?

He asked me to talk about bm and what my opinion is on what I envision about y’all and that what I gave. Now you can disagree and that’s fine or you can start a thread about bw, but dont put words in my mouth because you feel triggered/attacked.

As for everything else you addressed about bw and how we’re doing and how you feel
you can’t be critical of us—on this site you can be. In fact the points you’ve brought up are regularly shared in threads on here all the time. Y’all say single moms procreate with bums on here all the time. Y’all say bw aren’t supportive of you and only care about themselves on here all the time. Y’all say bw are struggling and broke and bad decision makers all the time.

If you think I’m c00n because I was critical of Brehs in a way that made you feel attacked that’s fine. Personally I think these conversations are needed because I think both sides are rightfully frustrated with each other and need to be able to get to a place where we can have honest discussions and share our opinions and insights.

what I will say is that the bw I personally know are homeowners, or live on their own, make over 75K, have good careers, and are married, in relationships, or dating bm. Some are single moms. All are educated. Some are business owners. Some have sons. The black men I associate with are in the same boat—most make over 75K, live on their own, take care of their kids, some are married, some are single fathers, most are educated, a few are in trades. A few are business owners. We all talk and have honest discussions about this stuff all the time, with no problem.

I only hang around black people that are in the same boat as me, that are goal oriented, date other black people, take care of their families, financially stable, and want better for themselves and others.

If you have a problem with bw then go pawg. If you feel like the black community is a lost cause, leave. If you don’t want to be leader then don’t be.

 

[CarmelBarbie]

I agree with mostly all of your points.
Successful Black men need to clique up. This is an issue we need to address right away.
Too many of us, once we reach a certain status, start playing respectability politics and acting cac-like towards our people in the struggle.
It's a intellectually disingenuous argument. It's the bootstraps argument with a natural hairstyle.
ALL of us are still at the bottom. I have Gucci belt and you don't. It's inconsequential.
The Black community as a whole has issues and all of us acting like model citizens in the eyes of white society isn't the answer.
Our real problem is the systemic oppression and disenfranchisement of our people. Our issues as a society are direct symptoms of that oppression.
You cant address the social uplift of Black people without addressing the very real barriers put in place to neutralize us. In the case of BM, to also emasculate us.
This is the blind spot.
The reason why BW meet so much resistance when they speak on the very real dysfunction in BM is because:
a) The brothers who do the work and try to rebuild the bridge are mostly ignored, even ridiculed for some reason. The work has to be matched.
b) BW seem to be willfully unaware of their own dysfunction in equal measure and preaching to us from some perceived place of moral superiority.

What all of us need to do is not be gaslit into believing that each other are inherently flawed and start throwing WS talking points at each other.
It's okay for us to be disappointed in each other as long as that disappointment is tempered with being cognizant of the root cause of our dysfunction.
We have to learn to talk to each other rather than bicker, and hold each other accountable with love rather than derision.
To be fair, I have seen more and more sisters recently stepping up and doing just that.
I'm not talking about telling us what we wanna hear and buffing our ego.
I'm seeing sisters speak to brothers with an understanding of how we all got here, but also not afraid to check our unhealthy behaviors.
The response these sisters get from BM is overwhelmingly positive.
The same way you and I are are engaging in civil discourse here based on a mutual concern for our people is a perfect example of how these conversations should go.

Repped. I agree with everyone you said.

 

[Dallas' 4 Eva]

Generally I would be really weary of any outside groups offering to help Black Men specifically. Because what will they want in return?

Plus after at a certain point pride should kick in for a Man. And you won't accept handouts especially from people outside of our community.

Bruh I remember that thread where the government said they were giving black women a few billion in handout money in the form of grants for education and the men in that threads response was 'We need money too! '

They came for my head when I said it was pathetic they over here jealous of women getting a fukking handout, it breaks my heart to see a group of men act like some broads like that. Have some fukking pride, I'd rather starve before I reach in a womans pocket like that and just survive off her and be envious of what she got. nikkas get mad when they get called a bunch of mamas boys, but aint no way you had a dad growing up and you get jealous of women getting help or getting a handout that's literally a womans nature bruh , women need help they always have they always will.

 

[Black Panther]

As a rule...if there's a headline with a closed-ended (yes or no) question, the answer is usually either "No" or "it depends".

Rarely is the answer "yes".

 

[Bossino]

Thats another discussion I want to have

The amount of Black Gen zers on some self hate weirdo nonsense bothers me.

shyt bothers you? shyt I'm 23 in LA going to school, I'm trying to catch up in classes so I can go to black clubs, but on the socials I see very few are actually pulling up. Consequences of single motherhood, "post racial" society, and mixed kids. It's not up for debate women submit to power, they don't have ethnic/national pride.

It's nothing to find latina that doesn't want a latin dude, or asian woman who doesn't want and asian man, as they get Americanized and assimilated into cac norms and desiring cacs. Black women are the next frontier as cacs try to prolong their existence, and white supremacy is making it easier than brehs want to admit.

Psychologically I grew up in a 2 parent household with parents that were both college educated in their native country as well as here, while both came with rose colored vision of America the last 30 year particularly 45's admin directly after Obama let my parents fully understand what this place actually is. While there was some naïveté on that front, they bot instilled critical thought and the value of education and tangible work/processes/ideals.

In other words I never saw the aggregate worth of black people through media portrayal, music, and news. That factors in, but moreso history, statistics, and understanding the framework in which black people exist here carried far more weight. So I had a balanced/fair picture.

The fact is most kids aren't raised like that, most people aren't critical thinkers + hard workers, therefor their kids get a good sense of self-worth, the world, and possibilities from media, and the media Gen Z has consumed regarding black people (2000-present) hasn't been good at all in aggregate. (That's news, music, and representation in media like social, TV, movies)

That's a quick route to self hate

 

[FeverPitch2]

Repped. I agree with everyone you said.

Repped. I appreciate the conversation.

 

[Monoblock]

Thats another discussion I want to have

The amount of Black Gen zers on some self hate weirdo nonsense bothers me.

Same I see this shyt a lot and it's truly sad how much they hate themselves.

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

Thats another discussion I want to have

The amount of Black Gen zers on some self hate weirdo nonsense bothers me.

Used to fukk with the youtuber Jidion
But he started making light of white ppl saying the n word
Edge lord shyt

 

[DaHNIC82]

Generally I would be really weary of any outside groups offering to help Black Men specifically. Because what will they want in return?

Plus after at a certain point pride should kick in for a Man. And you won't accept handouts especially from people outside of our community.

Id be leery too but it also comes with the knowledge of negotiation which alot of us dont have. That was how they pulled the affirmative action hustle on us

 

[King Poetic]

Society doing a good job fooling ALOT of sisters.. this goes back to the late 70s and 80s to today

1. Get pregnant and they’ll give u welfare and section 8, but no man can stay with you

2. get your education and they’ll give u the job and that will eliminate a black man because you hired a minority and female

3. joined Feminist movement and blame your man for everything that’s wrong

4. let’s eliminate the positive black father from television and have c00ns like Oprah and Gail help out and find others who would also jump on board

 

[invincible1914]

Black Women, Are We Leaving Black Men Behind?

Isn’t this situational feminism? I forgot what it’s called. It’s the thing where women are equal/better than men until war break out (shyt gets real) suddenly they fall back into the support role.

People just be feeling themselves “Black men are getting left behind” until they get tossed in the bushes then they become victims “How come black men aren’t supporting us”. It’s just a cycle.

 

[FeverPitch2]

You are bold and I like that, but no reason to project your perspective of what I was thinking onto me. You never hashed out your view of social clout. So I took it as my iwn interpretation.

White men's social clout comes from dominating the economic sphere for centuries. Not the other way around.

Another thing I think you are missing, people by and large don't respect white men. They tolerate them. Which is why their women are quick to divorce them and run off men of different racial groups. Or cheat on them, engaging in dehumanizing sexual dynamics i.e cuckolding. Paul manafort, who was Donald trumps campaign chair was giving his wife away to rooms full of black men.......that's not social clout

Why do you think white nationalism and chauvinism is a thing for many of these limpwristed caucasions. The liberal world order as reduced the white man's social clout to an incredible degree, they see it and they want it back.

FACTS.