Is Shame missing in our community?

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They go hand and hand.
But not in the way you're implying.

It *should be* shameful to hoard wealth while others around you suffer, to exploit the people of your community and the downtrodden of the world, to show off gauche purchases while walking past the hungry, to see the degradation and living conditions of those that surround you while you overfill your belly wastefully.

But it is not. We have been socialized to accept these disgusting excesses as normal.

If shame were ever the cohesive social glue that people claim it "was" then capitalism should never have been allowed to develop in the way it has.
 

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Shame has severely lost its potency for a lotta logical and logistic socio-emotional reasons.

Old paradigms based off shame don’t last and give rise to chaos because 1.) the shame is usually one-sided, hypocritical and coming from those in power towards those who have less agency and 2.) when it has no basis in reality due to increased mobility and agency of those under your influence.

Shame is often a social tool of support for dominant power structures. But once people pull back the veil and expose the hypocrisy of the actions of those trying to check others, then the power of shame becomes obsolete. Also once people try things for themselves and their lives don’t fall apart the way shamers initially claimed, it makes shame even less powerful.

To use shame sustainably, those shaming others have to be reasonably above reproach themselves. That’s just the way our brains work. Otherwise, the mechanism is rendered obsolete. In other words, the whole “do as I say not as I do” mentality makes people disregard the judgement of others as hypocritical and something no one cares about. And for shame to work, you also need an unrealistic amount of control over certain parameters such as how big your group is, how many are in your group, where they can go or travel and ect.
Because if the person you are trying to shame into doing something has other options more favorable than your vision and room or space to thrive outside of your vision, then they don’t care about your shaming them.

It’s like a blind person trying to shame somebody else for having poor vision. Or trying to shame somebody into staying in a small town.

If the shame is not tied to real negative consequences that can’t be mitigated by making different life choices and it’s coming from hypocrites, it’s power is nil. So if you want to leverage the real power of shame, keep your own community small and isolated and ensure that those seeking to shame others are of good character or manipulative enough to ensure they are never questioned. This is why cults are so powerful. :yeshrug:
Personally, I think shame can be useful but it’s not gonna work in today’s society and we need to move beyond reliance on it to heal our society.

This is by far the best answer in this thread.
 
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Lord Jamar: Shame is needed




Vlad brings up that most of the porn stars he interviews had a traumatic life. One girl, first time she ever had sex, she was 6. Another had 47 different foster parents

Lord Jamar says I'm sure all of the porn girls got stories, or they wouldn't be there

Then gets into it at 2:23. Dropping that knowledge :whew:


"You ever heard of the term Shame the Devil? It's only the devil that don't want to be shamed"

"Shame is a necessary deterrent, from doing some dumb shyt. Alot of things are shameful out here, and people need to be shamed"

"Looks like they are trying to make dysfunctional functional" :whew:



Lord Jamar and Vlad father and son role playing at 15:40 had me :dead:


The whole interview is piff :ohlawd:

Fam the Morpheus part at the end had me dead when I first saw it :dead:
 

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Wouldn’t it all depend what you trying to shame some one over

folks gonna be shamed for all sorts of stupid shyt

judging by most of you weirdos on the coli yall would take that shyt way to far

y’all shame everything up here anyways. Y’all want more control of what other folks is doing

it takes a village to raise a child yeah but what if people in that village got different ideals than you
 

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Asians really are on a whole other level of public shaming people. Chinese communist government did it as punishment in the past as well.. they'd march someone in front a crowd and have them publically be chastised. Sometimes even resulting in murder
 

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Asians really are on a whole other level of public shaming people. Chinese communist government did it as punishment in the past as well.. they'd march someone in front a crowd and have them publically be chastised. Sometimes even resulting in murder


Terrible but some folks on the coli would want that
 

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Sad part is we have shame
It’s just for the wrong shyt :dead:
I feel like a breh is more likely to be ostracized in his local peer group if he wore chaps and lugz everyday
Than if he had multiple baby mamas or was bullshytting in school as a young in

I know Asians Indians and west Africans get bought up like they some perfect minorities all time
But I can’t even imagine how productive we would be if we suddenly had a ocd level focus on education and family structure like some of them groups. shyt would transform the community over night really
 

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My sister in law slept over two days ago because her and her man got in a fight..she was sleeping on the couch and I got up at 1am to piss and saw her leaning halfway off the couch, half her titty hanging out.. I closed the bedroom door so wifey wouldn't wake up and then peaked around the hallway corner and pulled my dikk out and beat off to her exposed titty meat. Nutted on the hardwood floor like :noah:Without making a sound and went to bed..next day I dapped up her husband wit the hand I beat off wit when he came to pick her up. ...nikkas ain't got no shame smh:dame:
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