Is #BlackLivesMatter Leading Nowhere?

[Bawon Samedi]

With automation there will be no lower class workers period lol.

Automation is pure Capitalism. If Socialism is what you want then the Automation wave going on in America is the last thing you should be looking towards.

Automation benefits Consumption as you can now produce more with less overhead, but what good is all of this production if nobody has money to consume?

3D printers in theory could replace all forms of manufacturing, automated cars could eventually get Uber drivers and taxi drivers out the paint. It almost creates a Skynet situation because in Theory you can automate anything, the thing is creating the algorithm to do so, which is what the whole Machine Learning Wave deals with.

You have to ask yourself how much are you willing to let technology control for the sake of profits and or ease of use?

I never heard about automation being "pure capitalism." Capitalism is about exploitation, the automation era has nothing to do with it. To me slavery is "pure capitalism." If anything an automation era is devastating to capitalism and leads to a more socialist society. And governments who's countries have fully become automated would be devastated if they don't add more social programs.

Socialism is NOT what I want, there will NEVER be a pure socialist or capitalist society. But fact is we're heading towards an era where more social programs will be needed. Its not me wanting Socialism. As for the bolded again social programs.

 

[Poitier]

If this wasn't true, China wouldn't be doing what they are doing in Africa now. I see China positioning it's self to become a Consumer focused nation instead of pure production. I see China doing to African Nations what it is/was to the US as being its go to basket for cheap manufacturing.

All of this Capitalism....the current system. I'm well aware of China's desire to use Africa as a manufacturer....I was probably the first one of this forum to say it. None of this establishes Asian supremacy, if anything its necessary just to maintain China's stability.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

All of this Capitalism....the current system. I'm well aware of China's desire to use Africa as a manufacturer....I was probably the first one of this forum to say it. None of this establishes Asian supremacy, if anything its necessary just to maintain China's stability.

And also beneficial to Africa.

 

[Apollo Creed]

I never heard about automation being "pure capitalism." Capitalism is about exploitation, the automation era has nothing to do with it. To me slavery is "pure capitalism." If anything an automation era is devastating to capitalism and leads to a more socialist society. And governments who's countries have fully become automated would be devastated if they don't add more social programs.

Socialism is NOT what I want, there will NEVER be a pure socialist or capitalist society. But fact is we're heading towards an era where more social programs will be needed. Its not me wanting Socialism. As for the bolded again social programs.

Automation that we see today is literally for the purpose of minimizing overhead and increasing output. How does that Not Benefit Capitalism? The automation we are seeing things move towards is not one to serve the underserved it is to increase profits.

You can make the argument of Automation being used for Good vs Exploitation, but that is a moot point being that where live in a world where profit trumps all so we cant think of things in theory of "if I was in charge I would do this". Advancements in technology aren't usually for greater good out of the kindness of peoples hearts, its for people looking to get more output (at which they will sell consumers for) with as little input as possible.

 

[Apollo Creed]

And also beneficial to Africa.

It would be beneficial to Africa if majority of African Leaders were not corrupt/western puppets. Essentially the powers that be will get their money one way or the other. Its like China is a dad paying Child Support and African Leaders are moms who instead of using that money to help their child they instead use it to buy tickets to go see Beyonce. The question is will the next generation of leaders continue the same actions of the corrupt leaders of the past?

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Automation that we see today is literally for the purpose of minimizing overhead and increasing output. How does that Not Benefit Capitalism? The automation we are seeing things move towards is not one to serve the underserved it is to increase profits.

You're just NOW clarifying which automation you're talking about after I addressed that the automation era is an oxymoron for capitalism.

You can make the argument of Automation being used for Good vs Exploitation, but that is a moot point being that where live in a world where profit trumps all so we cant think of things in theory of "if I was in charge I would do this". Advancements in technology aren't usually for greater good out of the kindness of peoples hearts, its for people looking to get more output (at which they will sell consumers for) with as little input as possible.

Who was arguing about morality?

 

[Bawon Samedi]

It would be beneficial to Africa if majority of African Leaders were not corrupt/western puppets. Essentially the powers that be will get their money one way or the other. Its like China is a dad paying Child Support and African Leaders are moms who instead of using that money to help their child they instead use it to buy tickets to go see Beyonce. The question is will the next generation of leaders continue the same actions of the corrupt leaders of the past?

Good comparison, but its not "Asian supremacy" if African leaders themselves are just incompetent.

 

[Apollo Creed]

You're just NOW clarifying which automation you're talking about after I addressed that the automation era is an oxymoron for capitalism.



Who was arguing about morality?

Theres only one Automation, I stated the reason we are seeing the rise of things such as 3d Printers and Machine Learning isn't because "innovation is cool". Universities arent getting research grants and R&D departments arent putting time and effort into advancing this tech for it to be ready for production environments for nothing. Morality has everything to do with Automation. Blacks can use this advancement of technology for good or to be scumbags like their white counterparts. We cant assume those who will utilize this tech will do it for the benefit of a whole.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Good comparison, but its not "Asian supremacy" if African leaders themselves are just incompetent.

incompetent people do not rise to power without assistance. Every African Nation is different yes, but we can't act like many/some do not have outside parties dictating what goes down.

 

[Red Shield]

They aren't trying to integrate, they are going where the capital is at.



There is no alternative. This is what you don't get. No one is writing a blank check to form our own..

You can't possibly really believe that breh....



because I'm damn sure they ain't thinking about capital....

 

[Poitier]

You can't possibly really believe that breh....



because I'm damn sure they ain't thinking about capital....

I know it.

 

[Red Shield]

I know it.

I'm really not seeing it. Once they move out to the burbs or get a piece of the pie... most check out from the black struggle




But anyway good discussion over these last few pages. Even if I think you all are...being too hopeful and optimistic.

 

[Poitier]

I'm really not seeing it. Once they move out to the burbs or get a piece of the pie... most check out from the black struggle

Has nothing to do with the motivation to move.....also not as true in 2016 as 2004.

 

[Poitier]

 

[Poitier]

agent.