Is #BlackLivesMatter Leading Nowhere?

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Who said this? You're being highly disingenuous to paint the pictures that there is even a considerable amount of Blacks with money to back any of the stuff you think it is Blacks should be doing.

I haven't stated how and at what time blacks should be doing something specific.

Stating "Blacks should be building Infrastructure" does not = Blacks need to build a Hospital today. More so I`m talking on taking the steps to do something.

Getting Education, Gaining Skills, Networking, creation of Corporations, etc are all part of a building process. The issue of today is people being content with what is deemed as being successful opposed to "kicking it up a notch".

Point Blank when Blacks achieve status we focus on integrating into white society instead of focussing on creating parallel institutions/infrastructure.

Blacks aggregating the little they do have can create a foundation that can lead to the convos of taking the next step in the building process.

You talk about "What blacks need to be majoring in" but what good is it if they just go work for white companies like they do now, move to white suburbs, and just retire?
 

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Meaning we basically become our own producers. Isn't this what Karl Marx wanted or meant?

Yeah in a sense. Pretty much Automatic is going to cut out middle men that served as barriers of entry of people obtaining things. On the Flipside though you gotta realize with automation you will have less jobs for unskilled individuals. I think the biggest thing will be where do you draw the line on how much you are willing to automate things.
 

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Point Blank when Blacks achieve status we focus on integrating into white society instead of focussing on creating parallel institutions/infrastructure.

They aren't trying to integrate, they are going where the capital is at.

You talk about "What blacks need to be majoring in" but what good is it if they just go work for white companies like they do now, move to white suburbs, and just retire?

There is no alternative. This is what you don't get. No one is writing a blank check to form our own..
 

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Yeah in a sense. Pretty much Automatic is going to cut out middle men that served as barriers of entry of people obtaining things. On the Flipside though you gotta realize with automation you will have less jobs for unskilled individuals. I think the biggest thing will be where do you draw the line on how much you are willing to automate things.

I'm already seeing this at the Target I work at and they're already starting to build self-checkout lines. Yeah, its happening. With the bolded I think a bit more social programs will be needed.
 

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Blacks aggregating the little they do have can create a foundation that can lead to the convos of taking the next step in the building process.

Also, this line of thinking needs to stop.

No group of people have accrued wealth and built infrastructure by aggregating their coins. Its always from massive investment or ample cash from a printing press.
 

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Also, this line of thinking needs to stop.

No group of people have accrued wealth and built infrastructure by aggregating their coins. Its always from massive investment or ample cash from a printing press.

With this logic, essentially nothing can be done. With this logic there is no reason for Blacks to go to school for any of the things you said they should as it would serve them no purpose. With this logic we should essentially accept our fate in the current system. Essentially you are saying there is no reason to do anything because nothing will work.
 

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With this logic, essentially nothing can be done.

In America? No, it won't work which is why I've posted on here many times about Black Americans seeking foreign investments to bypass American banking.

With this logic there is no reason for Blacks to go to school for any of the things you said they should as it would serve them no purpose. With this logic we should essentially accept our fate in the current system.

Nope, I'm of the belief that this system is on borrowed time and all of the things I suggested will come in hand when this system expires.
 

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I'm already seeing this at the Target I work at and they're already starting to build self-checkout lines. Yeah, its happening. With the bolded I think a bit more social programs will be needed.

We have to understand there will always be a poor/lower class. The issue at hand is how bad will things be for them. It is impossible to ensure all humans live at the same standard without sacrificing something major. At the end of the day in a fair world you should get out of the world what you put in, the issue is we have a global system of white supremacy that has blacks in a chokehold where we dont get out what we put in and/or they take whatever we could put in so we cant get anything out.

I don't think you could have a situation where everyone has a decent minimum standard of living and still see the type of insane "wealth hoarding" we see now.
 

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In America? No, it won't work which is why I've posted on here many times about Black Americans seeking foreign investments to bypass American banking.



Nope, I'm of the belief that this system is on borrowed time and all of the things I suggested will come in hand when this system expires.

so you are essentially saying ride the wave until the ship sinks and then rebuild. What I am calling for is us getting our Ducks in order as pretty much other groups are setting up for who will dominate for the next 500 yrs. We all know White Supremacy is on its last leg, but we cant be effed in the game and end up continuing the same actions if say "Asian Supremacy" pops off.
 

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We have to understand there will always be a poor/lower class.
Not if capitalism declines...

With the automation era there will be no reason for exploited lower class workers.
The issue at hand is how bad will things be for them. It is impossible to ensure all humans live at the same standard without sacrificing something major. At the end of the day in a fair world you should get out of the world what you put in, the issue is we have a global system of white supremacy that has blacks in a chokehold where we dont get out what we put in and/or they take whatever we could put in so we cant get anything out.

I don't think you could have a situation where everyone has a decent minimum standard of living and still see the type of insane "wealth hoarding" we see now.

Again not if this system crashes...
 

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so you are essentially saying ride the wave until the ship sinks and then rebuild.

That or get foreign investment.


other groups are setting up for who will dominate for the next 500 yrs.

This isn't true. Every group is playing within the rules of this current system and I don't see anyone setting themselves up for the inevitable.
 

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Not if capitalism declines...

With the automation era there will be no reason for exploited lower class workers.


Again not if this system crashes...

With automation there will be no lower class workers period lol.

Automation is pure Capitalism. If Socialism is what you want then the Automation wave going on in America is the last thing you should be looking towards.

Automation benefits Consumption as you can now produce more with less overhead, but what good is all of this production if nobody has money to consume?

3D printers in theory could replace all forms of manufacturing, automated cars could eventually get Uber drivers and taxi drivers out the paint. It almost creates a Skynet situation because in Theory you can automate anything, the thing is creating the algorithm to do so, which is what the whole Machine Learning Wave deals with.

You have to ask yourself how much are you willing to let technology control for the sake of profits and or ease of use?
 

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In America? No, it won't work which is why I've posted on here many times about Black Americans seeking foreign investments to bypass American banking.



Nope, I'm of the belief that this system is on borrowed time and all of the things I suggested will come in hand when this system expires.


If this wasn't true, China wouldn't be doing what they are doing in Africa now. I see China positioning it's self to become a Consumer focused nation instead of pure production. I see China doing to African Nations what it is/was to the US as being its go to basket for cheap manufacturing.
 
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