in the early 90's if you weren't street/thug/calling women bytches, you weren't popping -Kid N Play

[Art Barr]

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outkast debut wasn't on no hood shyt - you cant be serious with comparing them at that time to the hardcore/gangsta climate of that era
just because they dropped a few semi-hard bars doesn't make them mobb deep... i havnt listen to southernplayalist... in a long while (i could be wrong) BUT i hardly remember them cussing & using the word bytch on that album

Outkast were the self admitted pimp gangsta rap version of souls of mischief. They admitted sumfin that anyone who saw the group originally could see too and why they had a culture based content change.
socially and internally outkast used to be completely juxtaposed, as well.
they did not hang together and you had to interview them separately.
This was covered in rap pages back in the day and the source on the second album.


Art Barr

 

[Art Barr]

its just a magazine!!!!

theres no such thing as a hip-hop bible. that was just their tag-line.

grow up already breh.




all I know is, when they started showing their faces, they were mostly white.
and I bet most of the black writers were dweebs.

good reads, but I could care less about their mic ratings. when it comes to things like that, you should be looking to the block.

yall the type of cats that believed in santa clause way too long.

I knew you were not cognitive about the culture during the early nineties cause you are to rnb obsessed.

There is no way you read the source back then at all, breh.

You know you a late start in this.
Just drop the keyboard cause you tweaked't.

Before ice cube and wsc came along the source was the bible period. Xxl would not even exist if not for the situation.

Art Barr

 

[kingofnyc]

its just a magazine!!!!

theres no such thing as a hip-hop bible. that was just their tag-line.

grow up already breh.

you really shouldn't comment on shyt you know nothing about

 

[kingofnyc]

Yeah, you need to revisit the album.

[Verse 1: Big Boi]
Time and time again see I be thinking about that future
Back in the days when we was slaves I bet we was some cool ass nikkas
But now we vultures, slam my nikka back out
To make his ass black out, or even pull your fukking heater
To make his whole crew believers, you're harder than a bytch full of dikks
But that don't be sounding like King shyt to me
See now in the ghetto or should I be saying Lakewood
You better be strapped cause them nikkas over there just ain't good
Just being a hustler, serving the loyal customers
Rent was due on the first of the month so I'm hustling
I buy you 50 box of Phillies at the Citgo
And nikkas be wanting drinks and shyt from the fukking sto', yo
But that's aight though, cause I be getting paid
And every trip I take, there's a dollar to be made
I'm digging through my pockets for my earnings got you five
Deep, there it is, now it's time to smoke that dime

[Verse 2: André 3000]
Time is slipping, slowly but surely
nikkas I used to hang with wants to act like they don't know me
Come and listen to my story, I gots a lot of shyt up on my mind
I wipe the boo-boo from my brain then I finish up my rhyme
Take a number, I caught you in a slumber
I hit you for a lick, I'm in the slammer for the summer
But now it is the fall, I'm having a ball, making my nickel sacks crawl
To my nikkas got to serving when they beep and when they call
I got the Peter, Paul and plus that Mary Jane
I'm rolling reefer out of a Regal, how could I refrain
From being rough, from being tough, from being dangerous
I'm hanging with the P.A., nikka, ain't no changing us
See you can try, if you try, if you don't, you don't
If you wanna battle, it's either that you will or you won't
See that rap shyt is really just like selling smoke
If you got some fire shyt, yo nikkas gonna always toke
Dope, is not what I be slanging on this track
nikkas don't comprehend that it be deeper than Cadillacs
You know that, right, you bite, you fukked up
You won't be getting away this time, I'm real as hell, so what's up
I rip shyt wit pimp shyt, I'm slanging it from the South
Talk bad about the A-town, I'll bust you in your fukking mouth

^^^ and that's just the first song

you think this is gangsta rap

i never said kast was happy rappers


i just dont think they fit into the topic at hand

 

[kingofnyc]

double

 

[JustCKing]

you think this is gangsta rap

i never said kast was happy rappers


i just dont think they fit into the topic at hand

Their content and lyrics on that album fit into the topic at hand. Their lyrics definitely contained those themes.

 

[Wacky D]

like real talk
that dude has zero to lil hip hop cred for saying that shyt about the source mag

even if dude was too young or not around back then - he should respect da culture
cause from '88 to da benzino takeover in da early 00's da shyt was 'the hip hop bible'

I knew you were not cognitive about the culture during the early nineties cause you are to rnb obsessed.

There is no way you read the source back then at all, breh.

You know you a late start in this.
Must drop the keyboard cause you tweaked't.

Before ice cube and wsc came along the source was the bible period. Xxl would not even exist if not for the situation.

Art Barr

I don't think you dudes understand. I know a lot of people held the source in the highest of regard. but a lot of people didn't.

that's just some mythical rap chit. I'm talking on some real life chit. ITS JUST A MAGAZINE.

I know yall got caught up in it. I didn't. they always had shakey ratings that didn't reasonate with nikkas.

btw, I liked it most hen benzino took over. yea I said it.

 

[kingofnyc]

Their content and lyrics on that album fit into the topic at hand. Their lyrics definitely contained those themes.

wait a minute
you telling me that outkast in 1994 were listed as street / thugs / calling women bytches type of rappers

 

[spliz]

I don't think you dudes understand. I know a lot of people held the source in the highest of regard. but a lot of people didn't.

that's just some mythical rap chit. I'm talking on some real life chit. ITS JUST A MAGAZINE.

I know yall got caught up in it. I didn't. they always had shakey ratings that didn't reasonate with nikkas.

btw, I liked it most hen benzino took over. yea I said it.

of course u did bro. Lol

 

[kingofnyc]

I don't think you dudes understand. I know a lot of people held the source in the highest of regard. but a lot of people didn't.

that's just some mythical rap chit. I'm talking on some real life chit. ITS JUST A MAGAZINE.

I know yall got caught up in it. I didn't. they always had shakey ratings that didn't reasonate with nikkas.

btw, I liked it most hen benzino took over. yea I said it.

is @Art Barr right ????? are you an R&B dude that was late to hip hop ?????

cause that explains everything



BTW - i can 100% honestly say NEVER EVER EVER EVER heard a hip hop head say anything remotely negative about the source magazine

 

[hex]

wait a minute
you telling me that outkast in 1994 were listed as street / thugs / calling women bytches type of rappers

Is this a serious question?

They were talking about shooting people, pimping, and slanging dope on every other song. You need to revisit the album.

Fred.

 

[Dzali OG]

Before I finish the rest of the thread...

People not adding to the equation that the early 90s is when different regions started growing up and fell off NY dikk.

So it wasn't just gangsta rap, but truth be told after Chronic, unless you lived in tge tri-city area...

........



You fell out with EC music until Wu bought it back.

Even after Wu, Nas, Biggie, brought EC back...the stranglehold NY had on hip hop was over. Many heads on the West and Midwest STILL haven't returned to liking ec music. Same with the South.

The regions grew up and many people made an effort to hate ny music. The reverse of what ny dished out earlier.

 

[Wacky D]

is @Art Barr right ????? are you an R&B dude that was late to hip hop ?????

cause that explains everything



BTW - i can 100% honestly say NEVER EVER EVER EVER heard a hip hop head say anything remotely negative about the source magazine

ive been a rap fan since the '80s.

I'm not dissin the source. I'm jus saying its just a f*ckin magazine.

I never got carried away with all that extra chit. and anybody who didn't, will tell you the same thing. the majority really.

Is this a serious question?

They were talking about shooting people, pimping, and slanging dope on every other song. You need to revisit the album.

Fred.

but your average person, who never sat down to analyze the album, has no clue about this.
and if you did sit down & listen to it, you still wouldn't put them in that category. yea they reference that stuff, but they do it in passing & in a playful/non-threatening way. especially for that time period, it was pretty soft.

nelly had in-your-face street chit, and a couple downright hardcore cuts on his 1st album, but nobody ever put him in that category.

they weren't kid n play, but they weren't the dogg pound either.

 

[hex]

ive been a rap fan since the '80s.

I'm not dissin the source. I'm jus saying its just a f*ckin magazine.

I never got carried away with all that extra chit. and anybody who didn't, will tell you the same thing. the majority really.





but your average person, who never sat down to analyze the album, has no clue about this.
and if you did sit down & listen to it, you still wouldn't put them in that category. yea they reference that stuff, but they do it in passing & in a playful/non-threatening way. especially for that time period, it was pretty soft.

nelly had in-your-face street chit, and a couple downright hardcore cuts on his 1st album, but nobody ever put him in that category.

they weren't kid n play, but they weren't the dogg pound either.

What album are you guys listening to?

They don't do it in passing, at all. There's whole verses about it. Hell, there's whole songs about it.



You cats need to revisit the album....I don't know if you're getting it mixed up with "ATLiens" or what. The lead single was "Player's Ball" which referenced selling dope on Christmas day, for fukk sake....but people had to analyze the album to notice they were talking about street shyt?

There's numerous references to killing people....pimping....slanging dope....various guns....but it's "playful and non-threatening"?

Make a thread/poll, and I guarantee it'll be labeled as street/gangster rap. I've never even heard of it not being that, until this thread.

Fred.

 

[Art Barr]

I don't think you dudes understand. I know a lot of people held the source in the highest of regard. but a lot of people didn't.

that's just some mythical rap chit. I'm talking on some real life chit. ITS JUST A MAGAZINE.

I know yall got caught up in it. I didn't. they always had shakey ratings that didn't reasonate with nikkas.

btw, I liked it most hen benzino took over. yea I said it.

Yeah you could not have been around and cognitive about hip hop culture.
There is no way in the early nineties you even sniffed a source.


Art Barr