In case you ever needed a quick image to sum up what is wrong with the US

[CrimsonTider]

Corporate welfare and influence is the real problem

 

[Tikal]

Lemme clear up some statements, since I live in Sweden.

-Sweden is not as homogeneous as you may think, about 10% are immigrants or second generation immigrants (myself included).
AND I'm not sure what a homogeneous population has to do with a system trying to be more equal. As an outsider looking in, I think US's problems have more to do with ignorance and scare of communist/socialist ideas still in-printed in the minds of the american population.

-As far as debt. I studied at the university for almost 6 years, got a Master in chemical engineering. Although, we get a small grant is not enough to live by (unless you live at home and the university is in the same city), I didn't really have time to work while studying, though I did during summer vacation, and I took a loan cuz I figured might as well enjoy my student year without worrying to much about money. I also spent a year abroad studying and the loan is well needed then too.

Now it's been almost two years since I graduated and I'm paying back my loan ( btw the interest from this government loan is the lowest I've seen of any loan here) and I feel it was well worth taking this loan.

 

[Blackking]

 

[Brown_Pride]

Those Scandinavian countries are very homogeneous, are not immigrant/colonized countries built on the foundation of racism, slavery, and systematic inequalities. The racial divide in this country is the biggest hurdle that our country can't move past. It effects blacks first, but eventually a good number of whites are affected by the inequalities in the system but they actually support it. For example, rejecting affordable health care options even though it would help them, just to keep blacks from having the same benefit.

I really don't think they reject it to keep it away from minorities. I'm sure some do, but IMHO the overwhelming majority do it because of some side ways back aszward notion of "equality" Sad right. Truth is the common white man has more in common with the common black and brown man in terms of their daily struggle. They've (republican minded anglos) have basically been brainwashed.

At some point in time people will wake up... I hope.

 

[Birnin Zana]

Lemme clear up some statements, since I live in Sweden.

-Sweden is not as homogeneous as you may think, about 10% are immigrants or second generation immigrants (myself included).
AND I'm not sure what a homogeneous population has to do with a system trying to be more equal. As an outsider looking in, I think US's problems have more to do with ignorance and scare of communist/socialist ideas still in-printed in the minds of the american population.

THANK YOU!

Yes, the US isn't like the Scandi's in terms of demographics, but we all, in various degrees, have an "American mentality" of doing things, so to speak, regardless of race or background. Ironically, the "homogeneous" argument that most (not all) mention so constantly comes from the same dudes that say race isn't a problem / issue in this country. Can't have it both ways.

Reality is, many programs that would help the country as a whole aren't passed / supported because a segment of the population doesn't want to lose out on "perks" that they've been benefiting from for years. Those folks will use any divide and conquer tactic in their arsenal, especially race and political ideologies, to ensure the nation moves on in their terms and their terms only, at the expense of everyone else.

 

[The_King_of_Everything]

The biggest problem with this country are the citizens themselves. All of us
All through the internet people discuss the obvious everyday, but what will you do other than shrug your shoulders and resign to fate.
We use our freedom of speech has an excuse to belittle and judge others, instead of inform and uplift.
We've allowed special interest groups to control our government
We're a society where intelligence or being capable of anything requiring thought is looked at has unattractive and in negative light
and to be honest most people don't care enough, myself included
no matter what we say it all comes down to the desire to make a difference

I wanna do something. I just don't know how.

I was thinking about moving out of the country but that to me as a p*ssy was out but I want to eventually have a family years down the line but idk about having them here in the USthe way things are going.

 

[Type Username Here]

They wouldnt have dropped that thing on Germany.

Are you out of your mind? It was being built for use in Germany. The war ended there before it was completed.

I really don't think they reject it to keep it away from minorities. I'm sure some do, but IMHO the overwhelming majority do it because of some side ways back aszward notion of "equality" Sad right. Truth is the common white man has more in common with the common black and brown man in terms of their daily struggle. They've (republican minded anglos) have basically been brainwashed.

At some point in time people will wake up... I hope.

This is how I essentially view these issues. To me a lot of it falls upon class issues (not entirely, but mostly IMO). Yes, that includes a matter of racial brainwashing or giving someone the illusion of racial superiority. It has proven to work time and time again. Race makes classism easier because you can attach observational differences to members of a certain class, even if the statistics are warped or twisted . Welfare is a prime example of this.

 

[theworldismine13]

Lemme clear up some statements, since I live in Sweden.

-Sweden is not as homogeneous as you may think, about 10% are immigrants or second generation immigrants (myself included).
AND I'm not sure what a homogeneous population has to do with a system trying to be more equal. As an outsider looking in, I think US's problems have more to do with ignorance and scare of communist/socialist ideas still in-printed in the minds of the american population.

-As far as debt. I studied at the university for almost 6 years, got a Master in chemical engineering. Although, we get a small grant is not enough to live by (unless you live at home and the university is in the same city), I didn't really have time to work while studying, though I did during summer vacation, and I took a loan cuz I figured might as well enjoy my student year without worrying to much about money. I also spent a year abroad studying and the loan is well needed then too.

Now it's been almost two years since I graduated and I'm paying back my loan ( btw the interest from this government loan is the lowest I've seen of any loan here) and I feel it was well worth taking this loan.

yeah, that was the point of the article i posted, in other threads people were trying to say that if a student doesnt graduate debt free then the world would come to an end

 

[villain]

Do you know how vastly exaggerated the Soviet threat was during the Cold War?

 

[Robbie3000]

first of all american capitalism defeated hitler, so point blank period every western european country owes their existence to the united states

i dont know, ask hungary, poland and all of eastern europe what an exaggerated threat the soviet union was, apparently you dont consider a country amassing tanks and planes at your border a threat

Another misinformed individual. It's the Soviets that broke the back of the Nazis. If it wasn't for the losses that Germany took at the hands of Russia and weather conditions on the Eastern front, they would have presented a much bigger challenge to the the Allies on the western front.

All the US did is jump into a fight in the 8th round and then strut around like they saved the world or something. But keep believing your fairy tales.

 

[DEAD7]

American Capitalism defeated hitler? Are you fukking kidding me?

You realize only 1/4th of Germany's army ever fought the Allies, 3/4ths was fighting the Russians. I can't argue with someone who has such a rudimentary understanding of history. Unbelievable.

Our support(resources) and eventual intervention were huge factors in Hitlers downfall, the largest factor obviously being Hitler himself.

Powerful thread.

If your looking at the income of homes, and not per capita income(actual people) then you re not seriously looking at anything of value. This chart sums nothing up.

Would America have defeated hitler without everyone else that was fighting. That war was fought on many fronts...

Have niqqas really forgot how we dusted off Japan?

this thread kinda went all over. We can argue over whether education should be free or not all day. But the COST in America for higher education, is the real problem.

Plain and simple, too many people are going to college...

You can't make it accessible to more people and keep cost low...

our attempts to do so have devalued a degree to the point where you have to have a masters in many fields just to be taken seriously...

I remember when just completing high school was a big deal.

 

[theworldismine13]

Another misinformed individual. It's the Soviets that broke the back of the Nazis. If it wasn't for the losses that Germany took at the hands of Russia and weather conditions on the Eastern front, they would have presented a much bigger challenge to the the Allies on the western front.

All the US did is jump into a fight in the 8th round and then strut around like they saved the world or something. But keep believing your fairy tales.

like i posted already the western front disappeared at Dunkirk and england had no offensive capability, there was no western front until the the us created one

i agree that the 2 fronts defeated hitler, i dont agree that that the russians would have gotten to berlin by themselves

 

[Fervid]

The thing about viewing a degree solely as a product or commodity is that the people who do so usually don't realize that it represents much more than an immediate investment in a career. An education is good because society is better off in general with well-rounded people who understand and question a wider array of things. It's as much about an investment in the larger culture and in our democracy in general as in an immediate career- that's why even things like the humanities are important. I'm still using the language of investment here, but honestly, you don't need to. Understanding logic, English, history, etc, are good for their own sake.

Great post!

 

[Robbie3000]

like i posted already the western front disappeared at Dunkirk and england had no offensive capability, there was no western front until the the us created one

i agree that the 2 fronts defeated hitler, i dont agree that that the russians would have gotten to berlin by themselves

So that means I could easily make a hyperbolic statement like you did. It was the Soviet and the might of Communism that defeated the Nazis.

 

[The Real]

Plain and simple, too many people are going to college...

You can't make it accessible to more people and keep cost low...

our attempts to do so have devalued a degree to the point where you have to have a masters in many fields just to be taken seriously...

I remember when just completing high school was a big deal.

Other countries are doing much better than we are on that front. It's very possible. As for "devaluing" a degree, that's only true for immediate career prospects, which isn't the sole purpose of higher education anyway, and wouldn't matter nearly as much if costs were lower.