In case you ever needed a quick image to sum up what is wrong with the US

[DEAD7]

Side by side comparisons of nations with different history, demographics, geographies, political goals/philosophies, quality of life etc never work as intended. You could manufacture statistics to show just about anything you wanted...

There is simply too many variables.


That said none of the talking points hold any real value.

Military spending: Can anyone explain why other nation are/should be the metric used to determine how much military spending we should have? Seriously, how is the amount of money spent on tanks by Portugal relevant to how much Mexico should spend?

granted the emotional response it produces is real enough

Incarceration: We lock too many people up... period.
But we dont need to look at another nation to know this.


Also stop comparing us to nations that spend nothing on military cause they are protected by the world police(us). Of course the have more to spend

 

[Blackking]

Weren't the Nazi's the enemy to communism? Weren't there US supporters of hitlers early rise? Including our elite? Didn't Time magazine put Hitler on the cover as Hot new artist of the year?? Wasn't it the capitalist and Conservatives in Germany the ones that feared the communist takeover in the 1900s?? Did the conservative party in France, England and basically every western nation consider A. Hitler "the savior of Western civilization and of capitalism"???

 

[DEAD7]

Other countries are doing much better than we are on that front. It's very possible. As for "devaluing" a degree, that's only true for immediate career prospects, which isn't the sole purpose of higher education anyway, and wouldn't matter nearly as much if costs were lower.

If we want to take noted from the nations doing so like Switzerland, we have to look at the whole story and apply all of it...

Wiki:
Switzerland has an overwhelmingly private sector economy and low tax rates by Western World standards; overall taxation is one of the smallest of developed countries. Switzerland is a relatively easy place to do business, currently ranking 28th of 178 countries in the Ease of Doing Business Index.

low taxes are the way to go.

 

[The Real]

If we want to take noted from the nations doing so like Switzerland, we have to look at the whole story and apply all of it...

Wiki:
Switzerland has an overwhelmingly private sector economy and low tax rates by Western World standards; overall taxation is one of the smallest of developed countries. Switzerland is a relatively easy place to do business, currently ranking 28th of 178 countries in the Ease of Doing Business Index.

low taxes are the way to go.

The country we were comparing it with earlier in this thread was Sweden.

 

[theworldismine13]

So that means I could easily make a hyperbolic statement like you did. It was the Soviet and the might of Communism that defeated the Nazis.

sure you can make that statement, there is some truth to that, communism did defeat hitler, with help from the US

but you have to remember the context of my statement, which was the history of Scandinavian countries and how they came to be the way they are

the assertion was made that the soviet union was an exaggerated threat, so saying communism defeated hitler isnt going against my overall point which was that scandanavian countries were militarily weak and NATO or the threat of NATO was what kept the "might of Communism" in check from swallowing them up the way the soviet union swallowed up eastern europe

so in other words, there is a legit line of argument that says communism defeated hitler, but it doesnt follow from that line of argument that the soviet union was not a threat to scandanavian countries

nothing in the world is free, the high social spending of western europe post WWII only occurred because of the massive defense spending of the US, they spent 50 years living in a coc00n

 

[Brown Ant]

Those Scandinavian countries are very homogeneous, are not immigrant/colonized countries built on the foundation of racism, slavery, and systematic inequalities. The racial divide in this country is the biggest hurdle that our country can't move past. It effects blacks first, but eventually a good number of whites are affected by the inequalities in the system but they actually support it. For example, rejecting affordable health care options even though it would help them, just to keep blacks from having the same benefit.

People reject it because it is trash and supports a system in which people who do nothing get the same benefits as those who do work (and effort). Health care that is universal and free in other countries forces dying and sickly patients to wait 6-8 months just to get a regular check-up. It's a trash system and if you support it it's because you don't know anything about it.

 

[JasonSJackson]

excellent closing question

 

[DEAD7]

The country we were comparing it with earlier in this thread was Sweden.

Ah, my fault.
Anywho, comparing a nation of less than 10million(keep in mind roughly 38,041,430 live in California according to wiki) to the entire U.S. is going to be problematic for a number of reasons, and statistics should be taken with a grain of salt.

 

[unit321]

Before you jump on the more tax is good bandwagon, here's a list of income tax rates by country. Not created by me or someone who wants to fudge with numbers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tax_rates

And if you think your net income would be okay, the cost of living in Scandanavian countries is through the roof. When Europeans come over to the US for vacation, it looks like third-world country prices for food and beverages.

 

[The_King_of_Everything]

I wonder what Sweden is like for a nikka

 

[DEAD7]

I wonder what Sweden is like for a nikka

They don't f*ck wit niqqas like that

 

[The_King_of_Everything]

They don't f*ck wit niqqas like that

Really!?

Have you been there

 

[DEAD7]

Really!?

Have you been there

No but I've read a bunch of racist sh*it about them, and how they treat blacks that visit. Could be bullsh*t, but something tells me it isn't.

 

[Crakface]

Our support(resources) and eventual intervention were huge factors in Hitlers downfall, the largest factor obviously being Hitler himself.



If your looking at the income of homes, and not per capita income(actual people) then you re not seriously looking at anything of value. This chart sums nothing up.



Have niqqas really forgot how we dusted off Japan?



Plain and simple, too many people are going to college...

You can't make it accessible to more people and keep cost low...

our attempts to do so have devalued a degree to the point where you have to have a masters in many fields just to be taken seriously...

I remember when just completing high school was a big deal.

Yea they're really going to drop that weapon on germany with all those jewish people in concentration camps. Making europe radioactive for a while. I doubt it seriously.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

apply economic principles of a country with 5 million people to a country with 315, brehs.


and for the military point a lot of these european countries don't have to spend on the military because of how much we do. so they put it to social programs.

Dude deaded this thread with one post.

Damn.