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So basically what you're saying here is that you hate freedom and individual rights?


most european countries would literally not exist if not for the US

:what:

Come on, breh.
 

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College in Sweden is free but students still have a ton of debt. How can that be?

http://qz.com/85017/college-in-sweden-is-free-but-students-still-have-a-ton-of-debt-how-can-that-be/

According to your own article:

"So why do Swedish students end up with more debt? It’s pretty simple, actually. In Sweden, young people are expected to pay for things themselves instead of sponging off their parents."

So basically, not only is their debt still significantly lower than that of American graduates, the reason they're in debt, by your own article, is because they believe in pulling themselves up by their own bootstraps instead of relying on generational wealth they didn't earn, not because of predatory and inefficient educational costs. In short, that's a much better deal than the one we've got, unless you've got some arguments against it apart from this one.
 

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first of all american capitalism defeated hitler, so point blank period every western european country owes their existence to the united states

i dont know, ask hungary, poland and all of eastern europe what an exaggerated threat the soviet union was, apparently you dont consider a country amassing tanks and planes at your border a threat

American Capitalism defeated hitler? Are you fukking kidding me?

You realize only 1/4th of Germany's army ever fought the Allies, 3/4ths was fighting the Russians. I can't argue with someone who has such a rudimentary understanding of history. Unbelievable.
 

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According to your own article:

"So why do Swedish students end up with more debt? It’s pretty simple, actually. In Sweden, young people are expected to pay for things themselves instead of sponging off their parents."

So basically, not only is their debt still significantly lower than that of American graduates, the reason they're in debt, by your own article, is because they believe in pulling themselves up by their own bootstraps instead of relying on generational wealth they didn't earn, not because of predatory and inefficient educational costs. In short, that's a much better deal than the one we've got, unless you've got some arguments against it apart from this one.

i just posted the article for FYI, you can draw your own conclusion from it

why are you always tryna beef?
 

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American Capitalism defeated hitler? Are you fukking kidding me?

You realize only 1/4th of Germany's army ever fought the Allies, 3/4ths was fighting the Russians. I can't argue with someone who has such a rudimentary understanding of history. Unbelievable.

:laugh: what is the significance of the fact of how germany's army was divided, the point is england and russia would have been defeated if not for the US, and the scandanavian countries would have probably gotten swallowed up by the soviet union like the rest of eastern europe if not for the incredible amount of post WWII military spending by the US

the emergence of a prosperous democratic western europe would not have occurred without the US and without the protection of NATO

there isnt anything radical in anything im saying, its standard history of 20th century europe,
 
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The biggest problem with this country are the citizens themselves. All of us
All through the internet people discuss the obvious everyday, but what will you do other than shrug your shoulders and resign to fate.
We use our freedom of speech has an excuse to belittle and judge others, instead of inform and uplift.
We've allowed special interest groups to control our government
We're a society where intelligence or being capable of anything requiring thought is looked at has unattractive and in negative light
and to be honest most people don't care enough, myself included
no matter what we say it all comes down to the desire to make a difference
 

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:whew: saw about 8 post that are very great.... i will input the info into my brain. yall do sound like some communist, but still great thread. best OP in 2013
 

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apply economic principles of a country with 5 million people to a country with 315, brehs.
If anything, something like a single payer health plan would reduce per person costs due to the lower risk

Free college would be a boon for the country as well; the only people benefiting from the current system work in the financial industry

Dismiss logic with political talking points brehs.
 
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