I'm sorry but has there actually been a worse president than Trump?

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@88m3 you committed to the thread title and can't admit you took an L on this.

Trump is a garbage human and I've documented that more than literally anyone on this forum.

He's not the worst president ever. He's close. But he's not quite there.
 

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Unquestionably but for example how does that stack up to refusing to address global warming, pulling out of nuclear arms treaties, and pulling funding from agencies that address medial issues in the developing world that impact hundreds of millions of lives....
I ain't qualified to say. That pulling out of the paris deal among other things is ridiculous and short sighted
 

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Which Nap is posting in this thread breh? I can't tell just yet.

two or three personalities at my count, I may have missed some

One was soft shoeing for Republicans
Another was playing down foreign policy errors/damages by Trump which is entirely at odds with the accounts posts history
A few minutes ago I was just lectured that Trump is only second to HW Bush and the body count of Desert Storm was "something serious".

I drink and troll sometimes on here but come on

:gucci:
 

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two or three personalities at my count, I may have missed some

One was soft shoeing for Republicans
Another was playing down foreign policy errors/damages by Trump which is entirely at odds with the accounts posts history
A few minutes ago I was just lectured that Trump is only second to HW Bush and the body count of Desert Storm was "something serious".

I drink and troll sometimes on here but come on

:gucci:
HUH????

who is soft shoeing for republicans?

I said Nixon did relatively more for black people than most modern republicans....

and I made a type and referenced HW and now W.

Are you fukking slow?
 

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What do you guys consider modern history? Post WW2?
This guy:
Pandemic 200k dead
Assault on voting institutions "vote twice"
Defunding post office
Reinstitution of white nationalism
Recession
Cheated to get elected
Called for foreign hacking to win
Covered for a Saudi murderer of a US citizen/employee
Had national guard deployed against US citizens
Pulled out of climate agreement
Disaster for the environment.
Impeached
Using DOJ for private defense
Quid pro quo
Ain't do shyt about opioids

And this is just term 1 :dead:

Dude is the worst

Let me add on to my first post :mjgrin:

Michael Cohen = Convicted
Steve Bannon = Charged
Roger Stone = Convicted
Michael Flynn = Convicted
Paul Manafort = Convicted
George Popadopolous = Convicted
George Nader = Convicted
Rick Gates = Convicted

Oh, and the "where are they now" list....
Bolton
McMaster
Flynn
Fiona Hill
Andrew Peek
Hicks
Spicer
Scaramucci
Huckabee
Gary Cohn
Don McGahn
John Dowd
Mulvaney
Priebus
John Kelly

This Guy Is The Worst!!!!
 

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I ain't qualified to say. That pulling out of the paris deal among other things is ridiculous and short sighted
Nah, it lacked teeth and would likely have ended up a cash transfer from US taxpayers to corrupt governments.:francis:
I get the symbolism, but nah.
The emissions goals in the agreement can be reached independent of foreign oversight.
I support the withdrawal.




Each signatory to the Paris Climate Agreement is required to submit a plan, called a nationally determined contribution, detailing emissions reductions.[2] There is no penalty if China, India, or any other signatory does not achieve those targets.[3]

Under the Paris agreement, developed countries such as the United States pledge to provide funding and technical support to developing countries such as India and China to assist with emissions reductions. The agreement does not specify how much funding will be provided, nor does it name the recipient countries.[4][3]

In its nationally determined contribution, India estimated that it would need "at least USD 2.5 trillion" in aid by 2030 to achieve its emissions reduction targets.[5]

In its nationally determined contribution, China forecast it would reach peak emissions of carbon dioxide (CO2) by 2030, at the latest. (This means that China will not reduce CO2 emissions, on net, until after 2030, unless it peaks earlier.) China also outlined emissions reduction activities that it plans to undertake before 2030, such as developing renewable energies; increasing forested areas; and developing more intensified low-carbon alternatives.[6]


:scust:@ china still benefiting from "developing nation" status... the thought of my tax dollars going to China is gross.
 

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two or three personalities at my count, I may have missed some

One was soft shoeing for Republicans
Another was playing down foreign policy errors/damages by Trump which is entirely at odds with the accounts posts history
A few minutes ago I was just lectured that Trump is only second to HW Bush and the body count of Desert Storm was "something serious".

I drink and troll sometimes on here but come on

:gucci:

Hes saying HW was worse than W? :dahell:
 

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In my opinion, any president in office during slavery and/or owned slaves was worse than Trump. One could argue that Trump is the worst president since Lincoln. My opinion is heavily influenced by the treatment of my ancestors though. Even if we’re taking in general and disregard slavery, I wouldn’t consider him the worst in this country’s history. If he could, I’m sure that Trump would own slaves, so there’s that.
:yeshrug:

I recently learned that Woodrow Wilson actually played the well known white supremacist film known as “The Birth of a Nation” at the White House. After, he told people that the movie was an accurate depiction of America’s history. I’d say that 90% of presidents were/are racist and anti-Black White supremacists.


Trump wouldnt even be in the bottom 5:manny:
Unless you are weighing things said as heavily as things done.

This. Even regarding things said, other presidents like Lyndon B. Johnson are on record saying flagrant and offensive things. Imagine if we were able to witness or record what the 18th, 19th, and early 20th century presidents were saying (especially about Black People). I’m sure that it wouldn’t be pretty.
:jbhmm:
 
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Let me add on to my first post :mjgrin:

Michael Cohen = Convicted
Steve Bannon = Charged
Roger Stone = Convicted
Michael Flynn = Convicted
Paul Manafort = Convicted
George Popadopolous = Convicted
George Nader = Convicted
Rick Gates = Convicted

Oh, and the "where are they now" list....
Bolton
McMaster
Flynn
Fiona Hill
Andrew Peek
Hicks
Spicer
Scaramucci
Huckabee
Gary Cohn
Don McGahn
John Dowd
Mulvaney
Priebus
John Kelly

This Guy Is The Worst!!!!

The emergence of the Mooch is one of the few bright spots of his administration.
 

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In my opinion, any president in office during slavery and/or owned slaves was worse than Trump. One could argue that Trump is the worst president since Lincoln. My opinion is heavily influenced by the treatment of my ancestors though. Even if we’re taking in general and disregard slavery, I wouldn’t consider him the worst in this country’s history. If he could, I’m sure that Trump would own slaves, so there’s that.
:yeshrug:

I recently learned that Woodrow Wilson actually played the well known white supremacist film known as “The Birth of a Nation” at the White House. After, he told people that the movie was an accurate depiction of America’s history. I’d say that 90% of presidents were/are racist and anti-Black White supremacists.




This. Even regarding things said, other presidents like Lyndon B. Johnson are on record saying flagrant and offensive things. Imagine if we were able to witness or record what the 18th, 19th, and early 20th century presidents were saying (especially about Black People). I’m sure that it wouldn’t be pretty.
:jbhmm:
I cringe everytime someone calls him the most racist/openly racist... especially when we've had presidents that owned black people and used n*gger freely.
 

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Started to rack my brain a few minutes ago as I was reading the wiki @newarkhiphop shared about George Washington's dentures and thinking about pre WW2 presidents and their evils and bigotry and I think Trump still might have it.

I'm usually not one for these kinds of threads but lettuce discuss

Probably pre 1900's yes. Trump is trying to roll the clock back to then so ...

BREHS TAKE NOTE: THEY HAVE A PLAN

Trump is trying to terraform US society right under your feet.

Trump has changed the courts for a generation.

Trump wants to rid the USA of affirmative action.

Trump is trying to change the education system to reduce the forces against right-wing politics in future generations.

Trump is trying to change immigration to "mejorar la raza" and bring in people more likely to be right-wing / anti non-whites.

Here Trump uses a WS dog-whistle about survival of the West

In Trump's own words:





"The conspiracy theory was developed by the neo-Nazi David Lane in his White Genocide Manifesto (c. 1995, origin of the later use of the term),[67][68][69][65] where he made the claim that the government policies of many Western countries had the intent of destroying white European culture and making white people an "extinct species"
White genocide conspiracy theory - Wikipedia

These Trumpists are not breh Trumpists.

These are white agitators who believe they are in a battle for "survival" and that Trump (and his movement) are their political savior :ufdup: .

Their jobs.. their lives revolve around this "battle" and they spam online non-stop to this end.
 
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