Illegal immigration hurts the black community

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This is such bad logic it hurts my head

Its like saying racc00ns are bad for homeless people because they eat the best garbage
well unfortunately the system has many black people fighting for low tier positions
 

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Have fun picking corn and other assorted vegetables in the hot ass sun and selling strawberries and other assorted fruits on the side of highways.


Oh landscaping is going to be fun too

Dude, construction is full of illegals who took the jobs that Blacks used to do for $18-$19 an hour, especially in places like L.A. & Texas

http://www.dmagazine.com/frontburne...truction-workers-are-undocumented-immigrants/

http://www.theroot.com/how-illegal-immigration-hurts-black-america-1790878554

Civil-rights commish: Blacks hammered by illegal immigration


But please, keep believing that democrat lie that "Oh, they just pick grapes and strawberries"
 

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Dude, construction is full of illegals who took the jobs that Blacks used to do for $18-$19 an hour, especially in places like L.A. & Texas

http://www.dmagazine.com/frontburne...truction-workers-are-undocumented-immigrants/

http://www.theroot.com/how-illegal-immigration-hurts-black-america-1790878554

Civil-rights commish: Blacks hammered by illegal immigration


But please, keep believing that democrat lie that "Oh, they just pick grapes and strawberries"

and Repubs have had plenty of time to go after the companies and municipalities that hire people. This is not a hard problem to solve if they wanted it solved, but they don't want to solve it directly. Typical White American bullshyt, go after the little guy when the source of the problem the home and road builders and municipalities that contract to these companies. Humans are gonna human. If there is work someone is gonna find it and make their way to where it is. Its easier today than it has ever been to move around. Let's go after countries that have never attacked us, while mentally ill white people shoot up movie theaters and kindergartens. To make it better, let's allow them to get guns too. They playin us man.
 

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You do know they run social security numbers and verify birth certificates to get jobs now a days right? :mjlol:
False and FALSE

#1 Im an immigrant and i have held nine jobs in this country WHICH INCLUDES a 6 year stint in the United States Army. Never had a single employer ask me for my birth certificate.They simply ask for proof of immigration status. By that they mean Passport or citizenship certificate or green card. They can usually look it up themselves by your SSN anyway.

And again for those that dont know, you DO NOT need to be a U.S. citizen to join the U.S. military. I wasnt a citizen the whole time i was there myself.

#2 It's not "now a days". Employers i have worked with have always asked for proof of immigration status. They can tell by your social security card. If you are not a legal resident your card will say "Not valid/eligible for employment" right above the number. Even if you get a fake card the minute they check it in the system by just calling a SS office or running it through the database it will say "Not valid for employment"

White people : it's the blacks fault
Black people : it's the Mexicans fault
Mexicans : let me get two tacos and a soda please
This is America. "Passing the buck" is the way we handle things here :pachaha:
 
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and Repubs have had plenty of time to go after the companies and municipalities that hire people. This is not a hard problem to solve if they wanted it solved, but they don't want to solve it directly. Typical White American bullshyt, go after the little guy when the source of the problem the home and road builders and municipalities that contract to these companies. Humans are gonna human. If there is work someone is gonna find it and make their way to where it is. Its easier today than it has ever been to move around. Let's go after countries that have never attacked us, while mentally ill white people shoot up movie theaters and kindergartens. To make it better, let's allow them to get guns too. They playin us man.

Or you could go after both?:yeshrug:

You don't have to let illegals who have ZERO affection for Blacks come here, just because White people are terrible.

History tells us that mass immigration has NEVER worked out for Black people in Amerikkka & the only times Black people have ever made progresss is when it was restricted

Throughout U.S. History, Immigration Surges Have Harmed Black Workers



Washington, D.C. - Surges in immigration have harmed black workers throughout U.S. history.

Evidence shows that eras of high black employment and economic mobility directly correspond with periods of reduced immigration.

Should President Obama legalize many or all of the approximately 11.3 million illegal immigrants estimated to be living in the United States,1 black public policy experts with Project 21 warn, black Americans already experiencing a jobless rate far above the national average could be further harmed.2

Outright discrimination in employment based on race, unfair regulations and ethnic networking also have harmed the ability of black Americans to find and retain good jobs.


Facts and Figures

  • In the early 1800s, friction between free blacks and immigrants who were in competition for low-skilled labor opportunities led to the rise of union-based anti-black discrimination. Roy Beck, in The Case Against Immigration, wrote: "Rising immigration from the 1820s to the Civil War drove down wages for free black Americans and immigrants alike... As badly as new immigrants often were treated by established Americans, even worse treatment was meted out to black Americans by the immigrants. Organizing themselves into trade unions, immigrant laborers helped set the terms of hiring at many urban workplaces. Not only would they not allow black workers into their unions, but they usually would refuse to work alongside them if they were hired. Many firms decided not to hire black workers, or to fire the ones already on the site, because of that refusal on the part of the more numerous immigrant workers."3

  • After the end of the Civil War, Beck writes, a high rate of European immigration kept many newly-freed blacks locked within the South's agricultural economy (and helped widen the overall technological gap with the North). "High immigration solved an immense problem for the defeated southern landed aristocracy. The restoration of the plantation system depended on holding onto the ex-slaves. Eric Foner, the specialist on Reconstruction, says a major priority for both white southerners and northerners was to subdue former slaves into a sedentary agricultural work style in the South. During a brief window of opportunity after the war, many freed slaves made their way to the North and grabbed jobs that they held for years to come. But because of increasingly high immigration, most freed slaves did not get any of the new jobs up north or any of the new land out west. The unions were an essential force in keeping the ex-slaves out of the North. Nearly all of the unions — dominated by immigrants — barred blacks from membership, Foner says."4

  • Blacks were pushed out of jobs at the start of the 20th Century by a wave of immigration of Italians and Eastern Europeans who settled in the North. Beck, who is CEO of the immigration policy organization Numbers USA, writes: "[Historian John E.] Bodnar found that the immigration had a 'devastating impact upon [Steelton, Pennslyvania's] black working force.' Black workers stopped progressing up the job ladder, they lost semi-skilled occupations to the Slavs and Italians and many were forced to leave town in search of work. The black population declined. Job displacement was occurring in all cities. In 1870, of all black men in Cleveland, 32 percent had skilled jobs; by 1910, only 11 percent were in skilled trades. 'It did not take Jim Crow laws to drive blacks out of such jobs in the North, which could draw on a huge pool of immigrant labor flowing into the cities,' says Lawrence Fuchs of Brandeis University."5

    Beck adds: "Anybody concerned about fulfilling the spirit of the civil rights era would have been given pause by a look back a century ago at what happened in interior industrial centers such as Pittsburgh, McKeesport, Wilkes-Barre and Johnstown in Pennsylvania; Lorain in Ohio and Buffalo in New York. In tight-labor conditions immediately after the Civil War, those cities had needed the migration of black labor. They witnessed black growth that was modest in numbers but almost explosive in terms of percentages. With the biggest surge of immigration after 1899, however, black growth in those cities essentially stopped or populations actually declined. High immigration to the nation's cities had assured that the black worker 'would have to start his economic climb over again — from the bottom,' Bodnar says."6

  • Reduced immigration during World War I led to employment opportunities for black males. During the "Great Migration" that began in 1914, approximately half a million blacks moved from the South to urban areas in the North. "Wartime opportunities in the urban North gave hope to such individuals," wrote Chad Williams, then an associate professor of history at Hamilton College and since 2012 the chairman of the Department of African and Afro-American Studies at Brandeis University. "The American industrial economy grew significantly during the war. However, the conflict also cut off European immigration and reduced the pool of available cheap labor. Unable to meet demand with existing European immigrants and white women alone, northern businesses increasingly looked to black southerners to fill the void. In turn, the prospect of higher wages and improved working conditions prompted thousands of black southerners to abandon their agricultural lives and start anew in major industrial centers. Black women remained by and large confined to domestic work, while men for the first time in significant numbers made entryways into the northern manufacturing, packinghouse and automobile industries."7

  • Many of America's labor laws, some of which are still in existence, are unfair to black workers. As Project 21 Co-Chairman Horace Cooper wrote in a 2014 monograph for the Capital Research Center: "Many federal labor laws in the United States originated in efforts to saddle black men with extra burdens and limitations, in order to (as racists often put it) 'protect white jobs.' Tragically, these laws, in one form or another, remain on the books today and continue to hamper the ability of blacks, especially men, to enjoy gainful employment." In particular, "[t]he primary objective of [the] Davis-Bacon [Act] was to make it harder for black tradesmen to compete for work on federal projects." And the National Labor Relations Act, "the quintessential labor law achievement of the Progressive movement, ...was a catch-22: When blacks chose to leave the farms and plantations for opportunities in the North, the NLRA empowered the racist trade unions to lock them out."8

  • A joint paper by professors at the University of California, University of Chicago and Harvard University for the National Bureau of Economic Research concluded that immigration has measurably lowered black wages. One of the authors, Dr. Gordon H. Hanson of the University of California, San Diego, said, "Our study suggests that a ten percent immigrant-induced increase in the supply of a skill group is associated with a reduction in the black wage of four percent, a reduction in the black employment rate of 3.5 percentage points and an increase in the black institutionalization [incarceration] rate of 0.8 percentage points."9

    In testimony before the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, Dr. Hanson added: "The economic adjustments unleashed by the large 1980–2000 immigrant influx, a labor supply shock that increased the number of workers in the United States by nearly ten percent and the number of high school dropouts by over 20 percent, reduced the employment rate of low-skill black men by about eight percentage points. Immigration, therefore, accounts for about 40 percent of the 18 percentage point decline in black employment rates. Similarly, the changes in economic opportunities caused by the 1980–2000 immigrant influx raised the incarceration rate of black high school dropouts by 1.7 percentage points, accounting for about ten percent of the 20 percentage point increase observed during that period."10

  • Illegal immigrants and black Americans in the workforce today have a similar median age (approximately 36 and 39 years of age, respectively,11 with non-Hispanic whites six years older than the illegal immigrants, at 4212), making illegal aliens more likely to compete head-to-head for age-sensitive employment opportunities.

  • Analyzing evidence from two studies showing that employers may have a preference for hiring immigrants over black citizens, Dr. Harry J. Holzer of Georgetown University and the Urban Institute noted "that employers perceive stronger work ethic among the immigrants, and a greater willingness to tolerate low wages... Some of these perceptions and the hiring behavior they generate might well reflect discrimination, especially against black men whom employers generally fear…"13

  • "Ethnic networking" pits American blacks and Hispanic migrants against each other. As Beck writes in The Case Against Immigration: "Studies claiming to show insignificant changing in rates of African-American unemployment or labor force participation fail to take into account employment opportunities closed to black Americans who might otherwise migrate to metropolitan labor markets increasingly impacted by immigrants. The pervasive effects of ethnic-network recruiting and the spread of non-English languages in the workplace have, in effect, locked many blacks out of occupations where they once predominated."

    He adds: "Much of the power of immigration streams comes from 'ethnic networking,' in which immigrants after obtaining a job use word of mouth to bring relatives and other acquaintances from their country into the same workplace. Immigrants today act like the immigrants early this century, who took whole occupations and turned them into their own preserve, quickly shutting native-born Americans — especially blacks — out of a workplace14 … Within five years [in the 1990s], the workforce of seafood plants in North Carolina, Virginia and Maryland had changed from being predominantly African-American to mainly teenage girls and young women from Mexico15 … Businesses cease to advertise jobs. Natives don't hear about openings as they are announced through word of mouth of the foreign workers in their local community and also across the country and even in other countries."16

  • As in the Reconstruction era, when blacks competed with European immigrants in northern cities, Cornell University Professor Vernon M. Briggs, Jr. notes that both illegal immigrants and black workers tend to "cluster in metropolitan areas" and compete for the same jobs. Dr. Briggs says, "there is little doubt that there is significant overlap in competition for jobs in this sector of the labor market. Given the inordinately high unemployment rates for low-skilled black workers (the highest for all racial and ethnic groups for whom data is collected), it is obvious that the major loser in this competition are low-skilled black workers. This is not surprising, since if employers have an opportunity to hire illegal immigrant workers, they will always give them preference over legal workers of any race or ethnic background. This is because illegal immigrant workers view low-skilled jobs in the American economy as being highly preferable to the job opportunities in their homelands…"17

    Dr. Briggs further stated: "As for wage suppression, all studies show that the large infusion of immigrants has depressed the wages of low-skilled workers. It is the illegal immigrant component of the immigration flow that has most certainly caused the most damage… the unemployment rates in the low-skilled labor market are the highest in the entire national labor force. This means that the low-skilled labor market is in a surplus condition. Willing workers are available at existing wage rates. By definition, therefore, illegal immigrants who are overwhelmingly present in that same labor market sector adversely affect the economic opportunities of legal citizen workers because the illegal workers are preferred workers. No group pays a higher penalty for this unfair competition than do low-skilled black Americans, given their inordinately high unemployment levels."18

  • Using employment data compiled from the federal Bureau of Labor Statistics, the Center for Immigration Studies asserts that virtually all of the net jobs created in the United States since 2000 have gone to legal and illegal immigrants as opposed to native-born citizens. The report noted that "[t]hough there has been some recovery from the Great Recession, there were still fewer working-age [16 to 65] natives holding a job in the first quarter of 2014 than in 2000 [127,000], while the number of immigrants with a job was 5.7 million above the 2000 level."19 The report concluded there actually has been "no general labor shortage" in the United States thus far in the 21st century and "trends since 2000 challenge the argument that immigration on balance increases job opportunities for natives. Over 17 million immigrants arrived in the country in the last 14 years, yet native employment has deteriorated significantly."


 

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Absolutely you have a right to look out for yourselves.

But I think it's somewhat reasonable to say that being here from the start, you've got a leg up on them.
To claim a bunch of unskilled migrants who don't even speak the language pose a major threat is kinda weak.

:manny:

so you're denying that black people have been systematically disenfranchised since slavery huh :patrice:
 

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Black people: These immigrants are stealing our jobs

Employer: I have a lawn maintenance position, low pay, long hours, extreme physical requirement, and you often will manicure properties of people who are financially doing way better then you are.....

Black People: I ain't doing that shyt......got me fukked up......wont find me mowing whitey's grass for shyt pay.....I'm better then that.......

Then Black People go back to: They are stealing our jobs........:martin:
 

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If they are paid the way they are supposed to be than yeah there will be.

Can't believe people really think these are the jobs that the spic Mexican President said "These are the jobs black people don't want to do".

Big companies like illegals because they can pay them pennies. fukk those greedy corps.:pacspit:

Cherry picking and table cleaning aren't ever gonna be high paying jobs tho. Those will always be minimum wage jobs. No American is gonna clean tables or pick cherries for minimum wage.
 
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