WickedGames
Superstar
Can we not compare Grime to a genre that was founded off the tears of innocent child molestation victims like Hip Hop was, the grime founders were not abusing little boys on some Bumbatty shyt
I think Grime could blow up once they get good beats
IllmaticDelta
Veteran
Wait hold on, did I see someone in here say Futures style of music could be a whole new genre to itself.....but Grime is just a sub genre of Hip Hop??
No, Future is a substyle of HipHop that could be a new genre in itself the same way Grime is essentially Uk'ized substyle of HipHop but became a new genre. Kinda like how Funk was really a substyle of Soul music before it became it's own thing.
Please explain how Grime is a "UK'ized" style of Hip Hop
Goat poster
KANG LIFE
I have always liked Grime music as an American.
With that being said y'all dudes claiming it's not apart of Hip-Hop have always annoyed me.
You can't take what started in the US speed up the beat a little and add your accent and slang, then claim it has nothing to do with hip-hop even as our styles are imprinted all over not just the music but the fashion as well.
And new nikkas like Section Boys and Krept and Konan sound 100% like US hip-hop just with British accents.
With that being said y'all dudes claiming it's not apart of Hip-Hop have always annoyed me.
You can't take what started in the US speed up the beat a little and add your accent and slang, then claim it has nothing to do with hip-hop even as our styles are imprinted all over not just the music but the fashion as well.
And new nikkas like Section Boys and Krept and Konan sound 100% like US hip-hop just with British accents.
Section Boyz and Kept & Konan ARE NOT GRIME. It's obviously Hip Hop you moron
This is the thing, you Americans try to take credit for Grime without knowing what it actually is
Just because nikkas is rapping over drums doesn't make it a sub genre of Hip Hop.
IllmaticDelta
Veteran
I already did. They took HipHop and at various levels mixed it with Ragga Dancehall flavoring with the music being rooted in the EDM. You have to follow the lineage of UK Garage into 2 Step-->Grime
more ragga style vocals (jungle)
more HipHop style (2 step garage....)
more ragga style vocals (jungle)
more HipHop style (2 step garage....)
The fact you had to do this research shows you don't even know what you're talking about
So by your logic, Hip Hop is an offspring of Jazz and Rock N Roll?
Dushane Hill
Superstar
Please tell me what is American about wearing tracksuits and Air Max 90's.
K+K arent Grime, Section Boyz are mainly Hip Hop with bits of Grime here and there.
Beg man stop talking on things they know nothing about.
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You man putting all this effort into these long posts breaking down 1000 different genres is pointless, you're making it seem so much more complicated than it is.
Fact is when guys in London first started making Grime the main influences were Dancehall/soundsystem culture and UK Garage, I don't care what genres you think those types of music came from....those two genres were pretty much everything in early 00's black London.
Calling Grime a sub genre of Hip Hop is like calling Dancehall a sub genre of Hip Hop.
Either guys are deaf or man are just dumb.
IllmaticDelta
Veteran
wtf does this even mean? I posted the "research" to show that it's documented fact and that Im not making shyt up
HipHop musically is an offshoot of Funk.
HipHop vocally/verbally/orally is an offshoot of general Afram oral traditions that also existed/can be found in Jazz and Rock N Roll.
It means you had to google a bunch of shyt to make your point. Like I said in this thread before, you guys are trying to claim something you don't even understand. How the hell are you knowledgeable about a genre of music and culture you don't even listen to? This is why knowledgeable heads like myself were ducking this thread when the predictable arrogant posts started to kick in. Brehs in this thread talking about double time, sounds and shyt. How many of you guys even make music? Lol
And stop it, it's an offshoot of Jazz and Rock N Roll by the logic you're trying to make.
You actually said FUTURE could be a subgenre of Hip Hop like Grime. You fukking serious? Trying to equate that mumble mouth shyt to a whole culture. Do your homework
IllmaticDelta
Veteran
List of hip hop genres
Derived styles
- Alternative hip hop
- Avant-garde hip hop
- Breakbeat1
- Britcore
- Boom bap
- Chap hop6
- Chopped and screwed
- Chopper
- Christian hip hop
- Contemporary R&B
- Conscious hip hop
- Country-rap
- Crunk
- Crunkcore4
- Cloud rap
- Drill
- Emotional Rap
- Electro hop1
- Experimental hip hop
- Freestyle rap
- G-funk
- Gangsta rap
- Ghetto house1
- Ghettotech1
- Glitch hop1
- Grime1
- Hardcore hip hop
- Hip hop soul3
- Hip house1
- Horrorcore
- Hyphy
- Industrial hip hop
- Instrumental hip hop
- Jazz rap
- Jersey club
- Low Bap
- Lyrical hip hop
- Mafioso rap
- Mobb
- Nerdcore hip hop
- Noise rap
- New jack swing
- Political hip hop
- Pop-rap1
- Porno rap
- Ragga hip hop5
- Rap opera
- Rap rave
- Rap rock
- Snap music
- Modern Club Hip Hop
- Stronda music
- Trap
- Trip hop1 4
- Turntablism
- Underground hip hop
- Urban Pasifika5
American hip hop regional scenes and genres that came from them.
Eastern
New York City
- Boom bap - Originally from New York City
- Mafioso rap - Originally from New York City
- Hardcore hip hop - Originally from New York City
- Jersey club from Newark, New Jersey
- Gangsta rap - Originally from Philadelphia
- Philadelphia party music/club
- Baltimore club Originally from Baltimore, Maryland
- Go-go Originally from Washington, D.C.
Southern
- Southern hip hop
- Dirty South - originally from Southern U.S.
- Atlanta hip hop
- Bounce music - originally from New Orleans, Louisiana
- Crunk - originally from Memphis, Tennessee
- Houston hip hop
- Miami bass - from Miami, Florida
- West Coast hip hop
- Chicano rap - originally from East Los Angeles, California
- Gangsta rap
- G-funk - originally from Los Angeles, California
- Mobb music & Hyphy - originally from the San Francisco Bay Area in California
- Jerkin' - originally from Los Angeles
- Native American hip hop
- Northwest hip hop - originally from Oregon or Washington
- Ratchet - originally from Los Angeles, California
- Electro Hop - originally from Los Angeles, California
World genres influenced by hip hop
- Bongo Flava - Originally from Tanzania
- Cumbia rap - from Colombia
- Grime - from London, though more connected to rave culture.
- Hiplife - hip hop and highlife from Ghana
- Igbo rap - from Southeast Nigeria
- Kwaito - South African house/hip hop fusion
- Low Bap - originally from Greece
- Merenrap - from the Dominican Republic
- Motswako - from Botswana and South Africa
- Reggae Español/Spanish Reggae - from Panama
- Reggaeton - from the Caribbean, mostly Puerto Rico
- Songo-salsa
- Trip hop (or Bristol sound) - from Bristol, England
- Urban Pasifika - from New Zealand
IllmaticDelta
Veteran
Goat poster
KANG LIFE
YES IT DOES!!!
Rap is one of the 4 elements of HIP-HOP!!
YOU CAN NEVER TAKE RAP AWAY FROM HIP-HOP!!!!!!
* Also I never stated that Krept and Konan were grime, Just using them as an example that the most popping acts in the UK sound American. Grime really ain't even popping like that IN YOUR OWN COUNTRY. It's still a subgenera of Hip-Hop though,
Of course grime is a sub genre of Rap you morons, they rap lol.
Sound like those white boys who love to praise Grime because its edgy, un commercialized etc, stfu they all rap about the same shyt, and all the early grime artists took their influence from US rappers, undoubtedly, otherwise they wouldn't be rapping in the first place.
Sound like those white boys who love to praise Grime because its edgy, un commercialized etc, stfu they all rap about the same shyt, and all the early grime artists took their influence from US rappers, undoubtedly, otherwise they wouldn't be rapping in the first place.