I noticed this site has become VERY ANTI Hip Hop lately…

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Also another thing is this brehs/brehettes have to stop 🛑 saying the booth fell off or that there is no good music. Fact is I make threads on certain artist just to put booth brehs on.

like I did with YUNGMORPHEUS, Fatboi Sharif, The Umbrella, Moor Mother and a couple of others. And I credit @IronFist with putting me on to certain artist in the Goon Shifty Thread.


There is a lot in terms of underground and quality cats on here sleep on.


Sometimes I even throw guys the alley-oop with threads pertaining to certain artist because while it might not be something I gravitate towards it could be something that they like. I may not like 2chainz for example but I'll tag a person that does to let them know aye he's dropping a album. I don't think guys get what I be doing when I do that though.
 

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And when people blame Hip Hop, they don't even want to acknowledge that the world has changed in a lot of ways. I'm not talking small changes, but drastic changes. All of that plays into the mentality especially of the youth. A lot of people here probably don't even talk to younger people to even know what influences them.

I would go out on a limb and say music doesn't soundtrack the lives of today's youth and they would be more influenced by something they viewed on Tiktok, Instagram or YouTube than a song from a music artist. They are more prone to take part in a challenge they saw on social media (regardless of how dumb, dangerous, or both) than a song.
 

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1. nikkas aint on here blaming all of society’s ills on hip hop, stop exaggerating

2. So if nikkas have an issue with murder-murder-kill-kil lyrics with ZERO creativity, just naming opps u shot at and killed or wanna kill, that makes them white right wingers or a c00n?

3. U must be off the henny. shyt is wild how some of yall minds process shyt
 

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1. nikkas aint on here blaming all of society’s ills on hip hop, stop exaggerating

2. So if nikkas have an issue with murder-murder-kill-kil lyrics with ZERO creativity, just naming opps u shot at and killed or wanna kill, that makes them white right wingers or a c00n?

3. U must be off the henny. shyt is wild how some of yall minds process shyt

Even wilder how these same people will get on here and assure us that the specific music that we're critiquing isn't even "Hip Hop" to begin with.

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1. nikkas aint on here blaming all of society’s ills on hip hop, stop exaggerating

2. So if nikkas have an issue with murder-murder-kill-kil lyrics with ZERO creativity, just naming opps u shot at and killed or wanna kill, that makes them white right wingers or a c00n?

3. U must be off the henny. shyt is wild how some of yall minds process shyt
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And when people blame Hip Hop, they don't even want to acknowledge that the world has changed in a lot of ways. I'm not talking small changes, but drastic changes. All of that plays into the mentality especially of the youth. A lot of people here probably don't even talk to younger people to even know what influences them.

I would go out on a limb and say music doesn't soundtrack the lives of today's youth and they would be more influenced by something they viewed on Tiktok, Instagram or YouTube than a song from a music artist. They are more prone to take part in a challenge they saw on social media (regardless of how dumb, dangerous, or both) than a song.
Yes it does I’ve seen kids that try to dress and act like YB down to the mannerisms

There’s kids in NYC putting stickers on the clips of their guns because Lil Durk rapped about it. Switches is the thing to have

Everyone nationwide started wearing ski masks because of Pooh Shiesty to the point they are now colloquially known as “shiestys”. G herbo got all the kids wearing AF1’s they calling them G Fazos everywhere

TikTok, YouTube, Instagram is all connected to the music that’s how kids digest music they don’t have $ to pay for streaming services or credit cards to file. That’s where all the NY drill dance challenges start TikTok. That’s why YB is arguably the biggest rapper even while being antisocial, anti industry, and not making mainstream palatable music he’s the YouTube king not the radio king. Instagram is where they keep up with everything and where they see the visuals and the lifestyle. They want the drip the rappers wear some younging cracking cards to get the bubble Moncler and patchwork Amiri jeans he saw A boogie or whoever wore. All these lil girls know what’s going on with Ari and Moneybagg and Jayda and Lil Baby. It ain’t no coincidence that you see so many LLC’s girls set up is cosmetics they follow that rapper girlfriend playbook of model, fashion design, make up artist

The influence is very real

The average kid today is infatuated with hip hop, video games like 2K and Fortnite, clothes, p*ssy, social media, and these kids all smoke and they fukking with harder drugs like pills and syrup that got popularized by hip hop. These lil nikkas keep up with drill like it’s a religion. They can tell you all the beefs how it started in depth, gang history, and know all the dances. shyt is a whole culture. Y’all keep thinking it’s a game just music nope y’all wrong.

The shyt I bolded is wrong these kids algorithms revolve around the so called “culture”. There’s many content creators. That’s what influences them and strictly what they digest. This cycle is the so called "culture".
 
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Lot of hip hop today is garbage, nothing wrong with calling it out



Unless you like all that murder talk being promoted :mjpls:
'Muder talk' in rap goes all the way back to the 80s, though. Do you guys think before you type? Just admit you're jealous of the youth. We all know this is really where all this stems from. Buncha failed rappers on thecoli.
 

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'Muder talk' in rap goes all the way back to the 80s, though. Do you guys think before you type? Just admit you're jealous of the youth. We all know this is really where all this stems from. Buncha failed rappers on thecoli.

Yeah, there's always been songs celebrating and making light of the real world deaths of Black men that were violently murdered.

 

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I knew this was a problem when I'd seen the likes of tikesha69 and post malone anywhere near the periphery of hip hop.

There is music, a form of harmony, and expression emotion with some depth.

Then there is the money culture vulture who have made there way into hip hop and are nothing but a white talent less face so hip hop can be accessible to a larger audience.

the current content and lyrics aren't whats tanking hip hop, its the sing song white pop music, pushed as hip hop.

the drill music is the realest music to hit hip hop in over 15 years, since the early days of trap music, before it was commercialized, thats why some folks dont like it, its not the sing song white safe commercialized pop/rap music they been hearing for the last 15 years.

the only people who think, all blacks are influenced by drill music (the concpet that all blacks are alike) are c00ns and racist whites.

the biggest factor in hip hop/rap today is the ability for an unknown artist to blow up over night on youtube or social media regardless if they are good or not so their just more garbage in your face.
 
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Yes it does I’ve seen kids that try to dress and act like YB down to the mannerisms

There’s kids in NYC putting stickers on the clips of their guns because Lil Durk rapped about it. Switches is the thing to have

Everyone nationwide started wearing ski masks because of Pooh Shiesty to the point they are now colloquially known as “shiestys”. G herbo got all the kids wearing AF1’s they calling them G Fazos everywhere

TikTok, YouTube, Instagram is all connected to the music that’s how kids digest music they don’t have $ to pay for streaming services or credit cards to file. That’s where all the NY drill dance challenges start TikTok. That’s why YB is arguably the biggest rapper even while being antisocial, anti industry, and not making mainstream palatable music he’s the YouTube king not the radio king. Instagram is where they keep up with everything and where they see the visuals and the lifestyle. They want the drip the rappers wear some younging cracking cards to get the bubble Moncler and patchwork Amiri jeans he saw A boogie or whoever wore. All these lil girls know what’s going on with Ari and Moneybagg and Jayda and Lil Baby. It ain’t no coincidence that you see so many LLC’s girls set up is cosmetics they follow that rapper girlfriend playbook of model, fashion design, make up artist

The influence is very real

The average kid today is infatuated with hip hop, video games like 2K and Fortnite, clothes, p*ssy, social media, and these kids all smoke and they fukking with harder drugs like pills and syrup that got popularized by hip hop. These lil nikkas keep up with drill like it’s a religion. They can tell you all the beefs how it started in depth, gang history, and know all the dances. shyt is a whole culture. Y’all keep thinking it’s a game.

1) People have always been influenced by mannerisms and style of artists. That's nothing new and not even exclusive to music.

2) These kids putting stickers on guns is more alarming than them having guns in the first place? Make it make sense.

3) Those ski masks weren't popularized by a Pooh Shiesty. Those have always been popular, and I would argue that they became more popular when it was mandatory to wear masks and those ski masks are in style because those are more fashioble than wearing the regular masks.

4) A lot of the challenges especially the more violent and ove the top ones have NOTHING to do with the music. Most of the social media has nothing to do with the music.

5) Pills and syrup were already popular. That's why rappers started rapping about it. The streets have always influenced the music not the other way around. Pills have been big especially in colleges.

6) How do you think they keep up with the beefs? Social media. This is a whole culture that has NOTHING to do exclusively with Hip Hop culture. And it's a lot BIGGER than Hip Hop.
 

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I'm not talking about me personally I don't even listen to drill but that IS the sentiment

I've seen kids AND adults discussing drill beefs like it was Game Of Thrones. Speculation and excitement about what's next, who's dissing who, who's dying next, etc

The music gets away with not sounding that "good" because the authenticity balance makes up for whatever is lacking in skill

But again we don't get there without previous generations having done the same shyt cause I seen just as many nikkas in years past debating shyt like Pac's street resume
Its funny, this type of discussion is the end result of the type of forum OP seems to be wanting. His problem with the Coli is the self aware discussions on the music not in the moment fandom and non questioning revelry of the bullshyt like you would get in a IG comment section or reddit. I see most if the modernized rap discussion on the web being a straight up glorification of these dudes killing each other or gossip shyt with the music as a sidebar.

What really should be explored is some people's urge to craft a narrative around people having discussions that make you feel uncomfortable. The accusations dont even make any sense, yall sound even more out of touch than the oldheads with your capes out.

A racist white person would not be speaking against violent music centered around black on black violence. they would be egging it on, consuming it much like the teenage cacs in lil durk comments egging him on to "slide for Von".

This thread is just OP and several others trying to find a space safe from self reflection and some blue pills to chomp on
 

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The average kid today is infatuated with hip hop, video games like 2K and Fortnite, clothes, p*ssy, social media, and these kids all smoke and they fukking with harder drugs likepills and syrup that got popularized by hip hop. These lil nikkas keep up with drill like it’s a religion. They can tell you all the beefs how it started in depth, gang history, and know all the dances. shyt is a whole culture. Y’all keep thinking it’s a game just music nope y’all wrong.

The only argument I could see that can be made about today's music and content in general is kids today can look up whatever they want on the smartphone even outside of music, porn, graphic content...ect.

The content has always been their even in the 80s, 90s and 2000s, and kids consumed it it was jus more difficult and stigmatized but in 2022 does that turn a normal kid with normal boundaries into a killer.....most likely no.

a legitmate argument is that someone specifically a political dark entity is dropping guns of in the hood for these young kids to get a hold of.

If yall take anything away from this thread it should be Black on Black crime is just as prevalent as White on White crime.
 
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1) People have always been influenced by mannerisms and style of artists. That's nothing new and not even exclusive to music.

2) These kids putting stickers on guns is more alarming than them having guns in the first place? Make it make sense.

3) Those ski masks weren't popularized by a Pooh Shiesty. Those have always been popular, and I would argue that they became more popular when it was mandatory to wear masks and those ski masks are in style because those are more fashioble than wearing the regular masks.

4) A lot of the challenges especially the more violent and ove the top ones have NOTHING to do with the music. Most of the social media has nothing to do with the music.

5) Pills and syrup were already popular. That's why rappers started rapping about it. The streets have always influenced the music not the other way around. Pills have been big especially in colleges.

6) How do you think they keep up with the beefs? Social media. This is a whole culture that has NOTHING to do exclusively with Hip Hop culture. And it's a lot BIGGER than Hip Hop.
U being a contrarian bro

1. Trying to walk like a whole nother person is a different level of worship

2. Both are alarming. The kid shouldn’t have a gun but nobody was putting stickers on clips here until Lil Durk rapped about it on Backdoor. Also now backdooring is now part of every youngings lexicon.

3. He absolutely popularized it that’s why they called “shiestys” now you just playing dumb. Nikkas wearing these shyts in 95 degree weather cut the cap.

4. I’m talking about dance challenges not violent challenges. At least this is positive I guess. Dancing is a huge part of the NY drill hip hop culture kids are infatuated with it.

5. Syrup was extremely regional it was some Texas shyt that spread throughout the South and blew up in hip hop because of Lil Wayne and Future. Nobody was drinking lean or popping percs like tic tacs up here 15 years ago. Juice WRLD already told us he started sipping because of Future. Opiates wasn’t popping like that that was seen as a white America thing.

6. No bro this IS modern hip hop culture
 
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