I dont see how god explains how there is life ?

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How do you know He can't? I believe in God and I believe He can do whatever He wants. If you disagree that's on you but don't try to act as if your question wasn't answered. You may not accept or like that answer and that is your right but to go post after post and draw false conclusions that can easily be debunked is arguing on purpose. How many times have I said that God knows all but doesn't control all by choice. Yet you keep repeating "How can there be free will if He knows what's gonna happen?" in some form.

Arrogant is you suggesting what God should or should not do to prove His existence to you. Once again it is your choice to believe or not to believe all I ask is that you come with more than circular arguments and demands to make your point.

I like how you know exactly how your "God" works, lol. As for God proving his existence, well I'm sure even YOU had a level of evidence that your God had to satisfy, as very basic as it may have been.
 

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How do you know He can't? I believe in God and I believe He can do whatever He wants. If you disagree that's on you but don't try to act as if your question wasn't answered. You may not accept or like that answer and that is your right but to go post after post and draw false conclusions that can easily be debunked is arguing on purpose. How many times have I said that God knows all but doesn't control all by choice. Yet you keep repeating "How can there be free will if He knows what's gonna happen?" in some form.

Arrogant is you suggesting what God should or should not do to prove His existence to you. Once again it is your choice to believe or not to believe all I ask is that you come with more than circular arguments and demands to make your point.

where is your evidence to support this?

And why is arrogant to have evidence to worship God? Kings show there power so people have reasons to worship them. Countries show there power to show people why they should be loyel and religion has various stories where god/gods shows it's power and give people reasons to worship. :comeon:

shaky foundation you have there.

I just don't understand how you can not acknowledge the contraindication of being both omnipotent and all knowing and not controlling your life. But i see you are exercising your free will by choosing to be ignorant. :cheers:
 

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I like how you know exactly how your "God" works, lol. As for God proving his existence, well I'm sure even YOU had a level of evidence that your God had to satisfy, as very basic as it may have been.

Actually I dont and acknowledged that. Everybody believes something that they really dont have hard evidence for or that they have been taught and take someone else's word for. It all comes down to what a person chooses to believe. I just take issue with people not realizing or acknowledging that all beliefs require a certain leap of faith.
 

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where is your evidence to support this?

And why is arrogant to have evidence to worship God? Kings show there power so people have reasons to worship them. Countries show there power to show people why they should be loyel and religion has various stories where god/gods shows it's power and give people reasons to worship. :comeon:

shaky foundation you have there.

I just don't understand how you can not acknowledge the contraindication of being both omnipotent and all knowing and not controlling your life. But i see you are exercising your free will by choosing to be ignorant. :cheers:

Where is your evidence to debunk it? I chose to believe, you dont but nobody truly has tangible evidence or proof.

What makes a king a king? How do the people worshipping him know he is truly royalty? He doesnt go to each persons house and show them proof of his lineage. Even if he did how are those people to know its legit. The foundation of pretty much everything is shaky if you want it to be.

Just because you say it over and over again doesnt make it a contradiction. And even if it did that doesn't prove God doesnt exist.
 

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How doesn't it make sense. Time doesn't exist. The universe never began and it never ends. You think the world is linear but it's always just been rotations around the Sun and Earth going through geographical shifts while humans grow by building ideas off the humans before. Time is non existent. When did the universe start?
The universe does have a beginning.. we know this from science. We also know that the universe will probably end as well. Or do you really believe humans have been living on this planet for infinity and nothing bad ever happens? Ask dinosaurs how they turned out. I'm tired of people who don't have any knowledge of science trying to sound philosophical and intelligent. You're fukking stupid. Time is also a REAL thing.
 

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Where is your evidence to debunk it? I chose to believe, you dont but nobody truly has tangible evidence or proof.

What makes a king a king? How do the people worshipping him know he is truly royalty? He doesnt go to each persons house and show them proof of his lineage. Even if he did how are those people to know its legit. The foundation of pretty much everything is shaky if you want it to be.

Just because you say it over and over again doesnt make it a contradiction. And even if it did that doesn't prove God doesnt exist.


A show of force that if you are not loyal you get punished as stories of God has shown many times.

And i never said God did not exist I said does god want or even care if we worship it.

You went on the defense that i am saying god does not exist. That I do not know but i do know if something wants your attention it does something to get it. It does not let you not acknowledge it if it cared about worship.
 

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Actually I dont and acknowledged that. Everybody believes something that they really dont have hard evidence for or that they have been taught and take someone else's word for. It all comes down to what a person chooses to believe. I just take issue with people not realizing or acknowledging that all beliefs require a certain leap of faith.

Belief and worship are not the same thing though. For example, everybody as a kid in the US believed Christoper Columbus discovered America. Only to later realize there have been indigenous people there all along. Hardly the same thing as worshiping a God.
 

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Belief and worship are not the same thing though. For example, everybody as a kid in the US believed Christoper Columbus discovered America. Only to later realize there have been indigenous people there all along.

U gotta believe in something in order to worship it. How do u know columbus or the native Americans existed back then? Its documented and it was taught to u and u chose to believe it. When it comes to the past or anything that doesnt happen right in front of u that is all anybody can go on.
 

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U gotta believe in something in order to worship it. How do u know columbus or the native Americans existed back then? Its documented and it was taught to u and u chose to believe it. When it comes to the past or anything that doesnt happen right in front of u that is all anybody can go on.
You know there is a thing called physical evidence?

God isn't real, and even if he was he wouldn't give two fukks that you worship him. If he DOES want people to worship him, he's no different than a worthless human with petty emotions.
 

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A show of force that if you are not loyal you get punished as stories of God has shown many times.

And i never said God did not exist I said does god want or even care if we worship it.

You went on the defense that i am saying god does not exist. That I do not know but i do know if something wants your attention it does something to get it. It does not let you not acknowledge it if it cared about worship.

So once again it comes down to belief and choice. You are contradicting yourself. You say He hasnt exerted power/influence and then u reference stories where he did just that. There are plenty of accounts of God, both written and personal. Either u believe or u dont.
 

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U gotta believe in something in order to worship it. How do u know columbus or the native Americans existed back then? Its documented and it was taught to u and u chose to believe it. When it comes to the past or anything that doesnt happen right in front of u that is all anybody can go on.

I think you missed my point. To worship a god that someone you considered an authority taught you exist is not the same thing as believing your math teacher who says 2x2=4.
 

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You know there is a thing called physical evidence?

God isn't real, and even if he was he wouldn't give two fukks that you worship him. If he DOES want people to worship him, he's no different than a worthless human with petty emotions.

Like I said u are free to believe what u want, just like me so God bless.

Physical evidence still requires interpretation and belief in said interpretation.
 

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I think you missed my point. To worship a god that someone you considered an authority taught you exist is not the same thing as believing your math teacher who says 2x2=4.

Thats why I didnt mention math I mentioned history and u didnt answer the question.
 

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So once again it comes down to belief and choice. You are contradicting yourself. You say He hasnt exerted power/influence and then u reference stories where he did just that. There are plenty of accounts of God, both written and personal. Either u believe or u dont.

:beli: :facepalm:

I don't believe in the bible I am just giving you examples of people/things that exert there power over others in a context you understand. Kings show there superiority over others with there armies. God (from stories) does it by destroying cities or your life. If God truly wanted you to worship it it would make a declaration to everyone not just a select few about how you should live your life.
 

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The universe does have a beginning.. we know this from science. We also know that the universe will probably end as well. Or do you really believe humans have been living on this planet for infinity and nothing bad ever happens? Ask dinosaurs how they turned out. I'm tired of people who don't have any knowledge of science trying to sound philosophical and intelligent. You're fukking stupid. Time is also a REAL thing.

:whoo:

There goes that idea.
 
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