I dont see how god explains how there is life ?

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

There goes that idea.

Wasn't trying to sound like a dikk my friend. Most people don't know much about astronomy/cosmology. The universe being infinitely small at one point is a fact (what we don't understand is what caused it to blow up like it did). If dark energy is what is causing our universe to continually expand at an accelerated rate, I would assume it was dark energy that caused the "big bang". It hasn't been scientifically proven that the universe will end, but there are many theories that make logical sense (stuff like the big crunch).

I always thought it could be like an accordion, it gets stretched out as far as it can go, then collapses back in on itself, then bursts out again and we start all over.

 

[FTBS]

I don't believein the bible I am just giving you examples of people/things that exert there power over others in a context you understand. Kings show there superiority over others with there armies. God (from stories) does it by destroying cities or your life. If God truly wanted you to worship it it would make a declaration to everyone not just a select few about how you should live your life.

Thats what it comes down to. And thats your choice. I just took issue with u trying to act as if it was anything more than that. at more rules and conditions.People believe what they want to.

 

[Propaganda]

theologians and philosophers have struggled to truly reconcile an omniscient god and man's free will for centuries...then standing on the shoulders of giants, along comes coli member FTBS, who with a few short posts has "easily debunked" this glaring contradiction.

"God knows all but doesn't control all by choice".

so screw you, thomas aquinas! take that, calvanism! go fukk yourself molina!

 

[ThaGlow]

Thats why I didnt mention math I mentioned history and u didnt answer the question.

Lol you're trolling now. When did we ever worship Columbus da gawd? When did we ever worship the idea of Columbus discovering America? I used that history example to show you that things we believe can sometimes change as the facts come to light, but we don't worship them. You really don't know what worship is do you? Better step your game up.

 

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

theologians and philosophers have struggled to truly reconcile an omniscient god and man's free will for centuries...then standing on the shoulders of giants, along comes coli member FTBS, who with a few short posts has "easily debunked" this glaring contradiction.

"God knows all but doesn't control all by choice".

so screw you, thomas aquinas! take that, calvanism! go fukk yourself molina!

You know damn well homey has no idea who thomas aquinas or john calvin is

 

[Bud Bundy]

Thats what it comes down to. And thats your choice. I just took issue with u trying to act as if it was anything more than that. at more rules and conditions.People believe what they want to.

no your beef with me is that you claimed i used faulty reasoning to show you that god/creator does not want or even care about worship. The bible itself has many contradictions in it but you let those contradictions slide even though it goes against reason. Your faith in a book is unreasonable which then makes you unreasonable.

 

[FTBS]

Lol you're trolling now. When did we ever worship Columbus da gawd? When did we ever worship the idea of Columbus discovering America? I used that history example to show you that things we believe can sometimes change as the facts come to light, but we don't worship them. You really don't know what worship is do you? Better step your game up.

I never said columbus was worshipped. U gotta believe in something to worship it. What u believe in is a matter of choice rather than evidence because u have to choose to accept that evidence. That is all.

 

[Bud Bundy]

theologians and philosophers have struggled to truly reconcile an omniscient god and man's free will for centuries...then standing on the shoulders of giants, along comes coli member FTBS, who with a few short posts has "easily debunked" this glaring contradiction.

"God knows all but doesn't control all by choice".

so screw you, thomas aquinas! take that, calvanism! go fukk yourself molina!

That poster gave such and easy answer to a complex question.

 

[FTBS]

theologians and philosophers have struggled to truly reconcile an omniscient god and man's free will for centuries...then standing on the shoulders of giants, along comes coli member FTBS, who with a few short posts has "easily debunked" this glaring contradiction.

"God knows all but doesn't control all by choice".

so screw you, thomas aquinas! take that, calvanism! go fukk yourself molina!

Thanks.

Seriously I don't to know everything to be a biblical scholar or even a great student of history it just doesn't seem impossible for God to know all and yet not control all to me. I'm not telling anyone else what they should or shouldn't believe the point is it all comes down to just that...belief. Everything I have stated has been in reference to belief.

You know damn well homey has no idea who thomas aquinas or john calvin is

Sure don't. I never claimed to know everything and I have no need to front.

How do you know who they were? Did you meet them? Do you know everything that was written or said about them to be fact? No you read about them or learned about them from someone else and chose to believe those things. If you chose not to believe that is your choice it's just funny how people chose to accept accounts (written/verbal) of certian things and dismiss accounts of other things based upon lack of evidence.

 

[FTBS]

no your beef with me is that you claimed i used faulty reasoning to show you that god/creator does not want or even care about worship. The bible itself has many contradictions in it but you let those contradictions slide even though it goes against reason. Your faith in a book is unreasonable which then makes you unreasonable.

Once again it all comes down to what you CHOOSE to believe.

 

[Bud Bundy]

Once again it all comes down to what you CHOOSE to believe.

explain to me how belief factors into our discussion about the nature of being both omnipotent and omniscient?

 

[FTBS]

explain to me how belief factors into our discussion about the nature of being both omnipotent and omniscient?

I believe God is both of those things and you don't.

 

[Bud Bundy]

I believe God is both of those things and you don't.

no you think by being both God can choose when to interfere in our lives when by the very nature of being both you can not.

 

[FTBS]

no you think by being both God can choose when to interfere in our lives when by the very nature of being both you can not.

According to whom? How do you know? What's your basis? Lemme guess because someone with certain credentials that you have never met said so a long time ago or at least you read or were taught that and chose to believe it. Once again it all comes back to belief.

 

[ThaGlow]

I never said columbus was worshipped. U gotta believe in something to worship it. What u believe in is a matter of choice rather than evidence because u have to choose to accept that evidence. That is all.

Nah man, you believing in God requires no evidence because you play the faith card, but then you try to lump every other sort of belief in there so it doesn't seem silly (downplaying evidence, what?!). You can't lump them because other beliefs don't require people to worship anything.