I dont see how god explains how there is life ?

[Bud Bundy]

According to whom? How do you know? What's your basis? Lemme guess because someone with certain credentials that you have never met said so a long time ago or at least you read or were taught that and chose to believe it. Once again it all comes back to belief.

by the structure of our english language

Omnipotent-almighty or infinite in power, as God.
2.having very great or unlimited authority or power.

Omniscient-having complete or unlimited knowledge, awareness, or understanding; perceiving all things.


now follow me here because belief has nothing to do with this. If you are both of these and are responsible for creating life do you know what is going to happen in what ever life you create?

 

[FTBS]

Nah man, you believing in God requires no evidence because you play the faith card, but then you try to lump every other sort of belief in there so it doesn't seem silly (downplaying evidence, what?!). You can't lump them because other beliefs don't require people to worship anything.

The fact remains that everything that people do is based upon belief in something. People aren't required to worship God, it's their choice to both believe and worship.

by the structure of our english language

Omnipotent-almighty or infinite in power, as God.
2.having very great or unlimited authority or power.

Omniscient-having complete or unlimited knowledge, awareness, or understanding; perceiving all things.


now follow me here because belief has nothing to do with this. If you are both of these and are responsible for creating life do you know what is going to happen in what ever life you create?

I am not God and never claimed to be in full understanding of God therefore I can't answer that because it's beyond me. I believe that God goes beyond human understanding. I believe and accept that. You don't. I was wrong for calling your reasoning flawed because that is what you chose to believe and how you choose to reconcile things. I still say that people choose to believe and accept what they want to.

 

[Bud Bundy]

The fact remains that everything that people do is based upon belief in something. People aren't required to worship God, it's their choice to both believe and worship.




I am not God and never claimed to be in full understanding of God therefore I can't answer that because it's beyond me. I believe that God goes beyond human understanding. I believe and accept that. You don't. I was wrong for calling your reasoning flawed because that is what you chose to believe and how you choose to reconcile things. I still say that people choose to believe and accept what they want to.

The question is not beyond you because the question is not ambiguous at all. It is a straight forward question but the answer contradicts your own beliefs so you refuse to answer.

 

[FTBS]

The question is not beyond you because the question is not ambiguous at all. It is a straight forward question but the answer contradicts your own beliefs so you refuse to answer.

My bad I misread. I do believe that God knows what is gonna happen and is all powerful. No evidence that you would be willing to accept though.

 

[Bud Bundy]

My bad I misread. I do believe that God knows what is gonna happen and is all powerful. No evidence that you would be willing to accept though.

Do you believe God created all life.

 

[FTBS]

Do you believe God created all life.

That kinda goes without saying. I'm pretty sure the question is leading somewhere. You probably aren't gonna like or accept the answer that you are leading towards.

 

[Bud Bundy]

That kinda goes without saying. I'm pretty sure the question is leading somewhere. You probably aren't gonna like or accept the answer that you are leading towards.

i am posing the question wrong because you keep falling back on the position of belief which is a non factor in the question i keep asking you which is about free will.

How free will can exist if you accept the position of an Omnipotent and Omniscient being.

you counter with "Will i believe God can know all but we have free will"

That is nice but it is a contradiction and that is like saying gravity works sometimes when on earth.

your position is impossible by the very answer you keep providing. I am not putting a condition on God because this is the universal definitions that defines what god is.

 

[ThaGlow]

The fact remains that everything that people do is based upon belief in something. People aren't required to worship God, it's their choice to both believe and worship.
.

I don't think you're faith in God is as strong as you think. You equate your faith and belief in him to the most trivial things:

You: I believe in a God that created us all, we betta recognize.
Me: Wow that sounds kinda.... how do you know?
You: Faith. He's shown his greatness to me, I believe in him.
Me: Okay, I guess I'll wait until he shows his greatness to me too.
You: No, first you have to believe in God, then he'll show you.
Me:


Me: Hmm, its looks like rain today, better wear something warm.
You: Wow that sounds kinda.... how do you know?
Me: The meteorologist on the news said so, my weather app said so and I looked outside and saw dark gray clouds.
You: Wow, with that much faith you just throw around, might as well put it in God. I know I do.
Me: No, you see we have these machines and computers that help predict weather patterns and etc. It's not 100% accurate but its close. Good enough to be useful.
You: ............

 

[FrederickDouglas]

I don't think you're faith in God is as strong as you think. You equate your faith and belief in him to the most trivial things:

You: I believe in a God that created us all, we betta recognize.
Me: Wow that sounds kinda.... how do you know?
You: Faith. He's shown his greatness to me, I believe in him.
Me: Okay, I guess I'll wait until he shows his greatness to me too.
You: No, first you have to believe in God, then he'll show you.
Me:


Me: Hmm, its looks like rain today, better wear something warm.
You: Wow that sounds kinda.... how do you know?
Me: The meteorologist on the news said so, my weather app said so and I looked outside and saw dark gray clouds.
You: Wow, with that much faith you just throw around, might as well put it in God. I know I do.
Me: No, you see we have these machines and computers that help predict weather patterns and etc. It's not 100% accurate but its close. Good enough to be useful.
You: ............

That's one of my problems with religion.

If you have faith in God, only then will you see his blessing in your life.

And my thing is if you want God to be real bad enough, you can misconstrue every positive thing that happens in your life as a blessing from a personal God.

If bad things happen, then it's Satan or demons or your own sin (since most religions harp on the innate flaws of humanity)...never God.

As a matter of fact, unreserved belief in God (which is rather hard if you look at the world around you) can probably have a good effect on your mood. It gives you a feeling of a higher purpose that adds a level of poignancy to your moments of happiness and prayer provides a placebo effect when things go wrong. It can give you a false sense of hope.

Religion is a coping mechanism. The opium of the masses. The idea of a universal standard of goodness has elevated mankind to new heights and I think there are some people who would be unable to function without said idea. But a universal standard of right and wrong, if not already in place, can be instituted without being steeped in mythology. It's constantly evolving with society's rules.

 

[FTBS]

i am posing the question wrong because you keep falling back on the position of belief which is a non factor in the question i keep asking you which is about free will.

How free will can exist if you accept the position of an Omnipotent and Omniscient being.

you counter with "Will i believe God can know all but we have free will"

That is nice but it is a contradiction and that is like saying gravity works sometimes when on earth.

your position is impossible by the very answer you keep providing. I am not putting a condition on God because this is the universal definitions that defines what god is.

So in other words you chose not to believe the teachings that state that it's an impossible contradiction over the teachings that state that is the way it is. I get it.

I don't think you're faith in God is as strong as you think. You equate your faith and belief in him to the most trivial things:

You: I believe in a God that created us all, we betta recognize.
Me: Wow that sounds kinda.... how do you know?
You: Faith. He's shown his greatness to me, I believe in him.
Me: Okay, I guess I'll wait until he shows his greatness to me too.
You: No, first you have to believe in God, then he'll show you.
Me:


Me: Hmm, its looks like rain today, better wear something warm.
You: Wow that sounds kinda.... how do you know?
Me: The meteorologist on the news said so, my weather app said so and I looked outside and saw dark gray clouds.
You: Wow, with that much faith you just throw around, might as well put it in God. I know I do.
Me: No, you see we have these machines and computers that help predict weather patterns and etc. It's not 100% accurate but its close. Good enough to be useful.
You: ............

Yeah that's just inaccurate and totally baseless considering what I acutally posted but I am sure you had fun writing it so. Believing in God doesn't not equal a dismissal of science or vice versa.

 

[Bud Bundy]

So in other words you chose not to believe the teachings that state that it's an impossible contradiction over the teachings that state that is the way it is. I get it.

I asked you question and you keep bringing it back to belief.

do you think one plus one equals 2 because of your beliefs? Because the way you make it seem beliefs drives anything you do from waking up to eating. Clever way of ducking my question I lol.

 

[50CentStan]

Op terrible thread, use your brain. God is infinite God is not like us, there is no beginning or end. God created Adam from clay and hawah from his rib.

 

[FTBS]

I asked you question and you keep bringing it back to belief.

do you think one plus one equals 2 because of your beliefs? Because the way you make it seem beliefs drives anything you do from waking up to eating. Clever way of ducking my question I lol.

I believe there are things that are beyond human understanding the way that God works is one of them. I don't dismiss science or create my own reality I just believe that a being greater than us, created us and His abilities and knowledge go beyond our understanding. Thusly there are certain questions I honestly can't answer. Not so ironically enough these are the same questions that humans who don't believe in God/question his existence have been seeking the answer to for years. Like I said before I was wrong and hypocritical for calling your reasoning flimsy because you are entitled to beleive what you believe based upon whatever basis you choose.

 

[Nature Boy Ric Flair]

GOD IS HOE-GAN STATUS FOOLS...FLABBY & SICK WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


HE DOESN'T EXIST fakkitSSSSSSSSSS WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

 

[Bud Bundy]

I believe there are things that are beyond human understanding the way that God works is one of them. I don't dismiss science or create my own reality I just believe that a being greater than us, created us and His abilities and knowledge go beyond our understanding. Thusly there are certain questions I honestly can't answer. Not so ironically enough these are the same questions that humans who don't believe in God/question his existence have been seeking the answer to for years. Like I said before I was wrong and hypocritical for calling your reasoning flimsy because you are entitled to beleive what you believe based upon whatever basis you choose.

you are typing alot to keep ducking my question. My question on freewill does not hinder on belief because i already conceded to the conditions you agreed on. Keep ducking though this just shows me you can't handle a real philosophical discussion and your avi is ironic.