I can't put my finger on it...but I'm not feeling Hilary like that.

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Let's be real: she's a more corporatist, centrist version of Obama. She got blindsided in 2008 because she didn't realize how liberal the base had become, whereas Obama (and Edwards) did. Now she's moving to the left on some issues, while staying in the middle on others. She's out here apologizing to Wall Street brokers and saying they've been demonized. That shyt is pathetic pandering.

Another thing: what does she want to be president for? Her husband had a lot of grand ideas, especially health care. W Bush came in with a plan to reform education. Obama entered office dreaming of major energy legislation. Since Obama managed to pass the biggest and most important piece of liberal legislation since the Civil Rights Act. What is Hillary going to accomplish with a republican house?

Obama would be more liberal if he was white. Bet that.

 

[Cabbage Patch]

So we all agree that the First Lady would have control of the oval office again if Hillary wins?

I see your double-trolltendre, and I approve.

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

I see your double-trolltendre, and I approve.

Hillary is running simply to be the first woman President (not counting Eleanor and whoevers wife that was that made the decisions for a week or somethin, I forget). Plus Dems just want to hold office and she is by far their best bet. Id rather see Crazy Joe Davola Biden in office, and at the least, hope he runs so I can see him ether her in debates on the way out.

Im personally sick of the Clintons/Bushes. Just get thatAs a country, are we really going to let two families hold the oval office for 28 fukking years (assuming Hillary wins a re-election)? HW- 4 (plus a ton of other years in high ranking positions), Bill - 8, GW- 8, Hill 8?

This should be a bi-partisan agreement to get these schmucks out of there. And god forbid if its Hillary vs Jeb

Not to mention Jeb's son that is being bred for this shyt. He's gonna be Marco Rubio on steroids. I think he got over a milly in donations for some low level office in Texas.

 

[Blackking]

word. i agree w this thread.

 

[Gains]

. Little Jeb's immigration stance is untenable with the majority of conservatives and tea bags.

also married to a latino woman

So Rick Scott has potential.

fukk that scarecrow

I think Jeb Bush is a pretty good candidate...the best the GOP can muster.
?

Mr. electoral fraud , education "reform"

 

[88m3]

also married to a latino woman

I'm just teasing them, breh.

they're throwing hilarious names the last few pages

Status Update
By Andy Borowitz
DALLAS - President Obama and Gov. Rick Perry spoke today in what was described as "a meeting of the mind."

 

[Midrash]

I don't like Hilary for personal reasons and the fact that she had a condescending attitude about Obama on some "How dare you run for office you disgusting negro!!" tip didn't help my perceptions. Also 1/3 of her supporters jumped shipped to McCain despite the fact that her platform was similar to Obama's. They couldn't bring themselves to vote for a black person because some of those white feminist are extremely racist towards black people.


I'll vote for Hillary unless she fukks up and exposes herself as a racist or something but she better know that she can't be doing that "lazy darkie" bullshyt like she was doing with Obama. I have my eyes on her sneaky ass and that backup candidate in my back pocket. That bytch is no slick willy. Bill Clinton was a straight G, Hillary is like that old white lady who would call the cops on a black kid walking around in her neighnorhood only because they are black.

 

[Box Cutta]

Hillary is lucky for now. She'd shyt a brick if they ever got a Rand Paul or Alan West to run against her. If both ran on the ticket it might be over. With the exception of Israel, Paul would appeal to the libertarian wing of voters and all those college kids, West would run hard and pull a fair amount of the black democrats who aren't liberals. Not to mention those who are against gov't intrusion, strong on defense (being "shot at" in Bosnia ain't the same as being a military officer). West is already against illegal immigration, not to mention his stance on Islam (sharia law), she'd have hell to pay. America loves the military so how could she compete with that?

But good luck, Elizabeth Warren might unseat her because Hillary isn't really liberal/progressive as she appears to be.

Ain't nobody trying to vote for that Tom Allan West....

Elizabeth Warren, while from what little I know of her seems to be a good politician...doesn't seem to have any "base" whatsoever to run for president. Hell, most of Obama's people are likely going to Hilary. Far as I can tell she has no national infrastructure...she's not going far. Obama actually had establishment types within the party pulling for him.

If Biden runs, he might be able to give Hilary something to think about....but outside of him or another Obama type of candidate...it's Hilary's to lose.

I'm not big fan of the Dems but I'll take them over the Republicans if only for Supreme Court picks. My only concern about Hilary is that she ran a god-awful campaign last time.

 

[Box Cutta]

I'm talking about the Latino vote is not a collective in the first place. Latins are not a block. They are Balkan. Eventually, they are going to be white, just like the Irish and Italians of the 'Catholic' vote. This is what Democrats are going to learn. You're correct, I do need more data and logic than what I've presented in this thread.

I actually agree with you on this.

Believe me, I am no friend of hispanics.

I just think that it's not going to be relevant for another 15 or 20 years.

But yeah, once these Latins are more and more accepted as "whites".....lord knows what's going to happen.

 

[EndDomination]

I don't like Hillary Clinton as a person, she's far too conservative for my tastes, and she tried to stop American intervention of the Bosnian Genocide along with dikk Cheney's and Colin Powell's bytch-asses. She's far better than anything the GOP could possibly come up with, especially with the Tea Party and Libertarians trying to pretend they know what they're doing. She'll likely win, but its partially due to the Republicans being pathetic. Elizabeth Warren sure as hell isn't Native American, but if she ran, I would throw my full support behind her.

 

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Hillary Clinton is slipping against her potential Republican rivals in the 2016 presidential race, according to a new McClatchy-Marist poll released Thursday afternoon.


Clinton, the Democratic front-runner in the still far-away contest, leads her opponents by noticeably smaller margins than she held in April, when the poll was last conducted.

Against New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R), for example, the McClatchy-Marist poll found Clinton dropped 5% since April and 15% since February. She now leads Christie by just 47% to 41%. The story is the same for former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush (R). In April, Clinton led Bush by a strong 16%. Now, she leads with just 7%. And against Sen. Rand Paul (R-Kentucky), Clinton's 14% lead in April dropped to 6%.

A press release announcing the poll attributed the shift "largely" to independent voters, a group Clinton still holds but not to the extent she did before.

In a statement, pollster Lee Miringoff also appeared to blame Clinton's occasional stumbles on the campaign trail for her declining performance in the survey. Clinton, who has said she's still undecided about a White House bid, has repeatedly struggled to explain her wealth, among other things.

"There is no preseason for team Clinton," Miringoff said. "She needs to perform at Super Bowl-level from start to finish."

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Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/poll...round-against-gop-rivals-2014-8#ixzz3APGMonvI

 

[1thouwow]

I'd rather vote for a republican than Hillary

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

Beating Jeb by 13 as of now.

http://www.politicususa.com/2015/01...clinton-crushing-potential-gop-candidate.html

A Washington Post/ABC News pollreleased on Thursday shows Hillary Clinton crushing the entire GOP field. The poll, drawn from a representative sample of 843 registered voters, conducted January 12-15, finds Clinton leading five prominent Republicans by double digits. The survey found Clinton with the largest lead over Mike Huckabee. She leads the former Arkansas Governor, turned pop music critic, by an immense 56-39 margin. She posts a similarly large lead (55-40) over 2012 GOP nominee Mitt Romney. Rand Paul, Chris Christie and Jeb Bush are just slightly more competitive than Romney and Huckabee. Rand Paul and Jeb Bush each trail Clinton 54-41, while Chris Christie is down 53-40.

Women voters give Clinton a 20-point margin or greater, against each of the Republican candidates. Male voters also prefer Clinton, but by a considerably smaller gap. Clinton also performs exceptionally well with minorities, young people, and low-income voters. Many GOP hopefuls will be spending their Saturday afternoon courting House Republican extremist Steve King at his Iowa Freedom Summit. While this may improve their visibility with socially conservative Iowans who dominate GOP caucus events, it is not likely to help them achieve the mainstream appeal needed to defeat a formidable candidate like Hillary Clinton in a general election.

If Clinton were to maintain her double-digit lead, she would be in position to win in the largest presidential landslide since Republican Ronald Reagan’s 1984 drubbing of Democratic nominee Walter Mondale. A double-digit popular vote advantage would project out to approximately 400 electoral votes, potentially putting a number of reliably red states into play. For example, Arizona, Georgia, and Missouri would become clear pickup opportunities in such a blowout.


In our current hyper-partisan political environment, such a landslide seems improbable. As the 2016 election draws nearer, Republicans, with help from talk radio and FOX News, will do everything they can to smear Clinton if she is the Democratic nominee. Her popularity would probably drop some in the midst of a polarized political campaign. However, she currently is in an unusually strong position to become the Democratic nominee, and to convincingly defeat whichever Republican candidate is chosen to run against her.

 

[acri1]

To be honest, the GOP is in a demographic position where they'll probably lose regardless of who runs for president on either side. If they couldn't beat Obama in 2012, with all of his unpopularity, it's hard to imagine them beating a fresh candidate without all of that baggage. Because I mean, the people who voted GOP in 2012 will still vote GOP, and the people who voted Dem in 2012 will still vote Dem. Barring some sort of huge scandal it's really hard to see the GOP winning. They can get gassed from the midterms if they want...

 

[SirReginald]

Why you change your tune?

Its like people forgot how bad of a candidate she was 8 years ago