Meta Reign
I walk the streets like, ''say something, n!gga!''
The GOP sucks. Christie, maybe.
I can't put my finger on it...but I'm not feeling Hilary like that.
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I'm not particularly feeling Hillary either, tho I'd probably hold my nose and vote for her if she got the nomination.
As far as whether she'd win - it's likely because -
1. More than half of voters are women, and she'd have an advantage when it comes to getting the female vote.
2. Electoral math these days looks really bad for the GOP in general.
So to be honest, short of a scandal or something the Dems should win regardless of who they run in 2016. I mean, Obama's approval rating was crappy and he STILL won the electoral college in a landslide (336-206). For the GOP to win, the Dems would have to run somebody less popular than Obama currently is and somehow get a much bigger share of the latino vote. It just doesn't seem likely from a pure mathematical standpoint. But then again, they're pretty good at pulling defeat from the jaws of victory, so who knows...
Personally I'd take Elizabeth Warren over Clinton, though I realize that her getting the nomination would be a pretty long shot.
As far as whether she'd win - it's likely because -
1. More than half of voters are women, and she'd have an advantage when it comes to getting the female vote.
2. Electoral math these days looks really bad for the GOP in general.
So to be honest, short of a scandal or something the Dems should win regardless of who they run in 2016. I mean, Obama's approval rating was crappy and he STILL won the electoral college in a landslide (336-206). For the GOP to win, the Dems would have to run somebody less popular than Obama currently is and somehow get a much bigger share of the latino vote. It just doesn't seem likely from a pure mathematical standpoint. But then again, they're pretty good at pulling defeat from the jaws of victory, so who knows...
Personally I'd take Elizabeth Warren over Clinton, though I realize that her getting the nomination would be a pretty long shot.
So we all agree that the First Lady would have control of the oval office again if Hillary wins?
Can we stop using big words?
I wanna talk about this too but I don't know half the shyt you guys are saying
I wanna talk about this too but I don't know half the shyt you guys are saying
Meta Reign
I walk the streets like, ''say something, n!gga!''
Domingo Halliburton
Handmade in USA
Domingo Halliburton
Handmade in USA
as a registered Democrat...are we really going to have another Clinton (or bush for that matter)....in office again???
88m3
Fast Money & Foreign Objects
They both killed a lot people...
Piff Perkins
Veteran
Let's be real: she's a more corporatist, centrist version of Obama. She got blindsided in 2008 because she didn't realize how liberal the base had become, whereas Obama (and Edwards) did. Now she's moving to the left on some issues, while staying in the middle on others. She's out here apologizing to Wall Street brokers and saying they've been demonized. That shyt is pathetic pandering.
Another thing: what does she want to be president for? Her husband had a lot of grand ideas, especially health care. W Bush came in with a plan to reform education. Obama entered office dreaming of major energy legislation. Since Obama managed to pass the biggest and most important piece of liberal legislation since the Civil Rights Act. What is Hillary going to accomplish with a republican house?
Another thing: what does she want to be president for? Her husband had a lot of grand ideas, especially health care. W Bush came in with a plan to reform education. Obama entered office dreaming of major energy legislation. Since Obama managed to pass the biggest and most important piece of liberal legislation since the Civil Rights Act. What is Hillary going to accomplish with a republican house?
Julius Skrrvin
I be winkin' through the scope
Political dynasties rule every day b
Futuristic Eskimo
All Star
), hawk, wall street apologist potential candidate. I, for one, embrace our fake liberal overlords.
This weird confusion of what Hillary wants to be president for and what her platform/goals are is strange to me. Its not like the lady is some big mystery, she has been in the public eye as a pol for decades. I am pretty sure her 2016 platform would be very similar to her 2008 platform. At the time her major focus was healthcare but with Obamacare being passed she will probably pick something else from her platform to be the centerpiece legisaltion. I would assume either energy legislation or comprehensive immigration reform with a lot of women's issues stuff thrown in for good measure.
Here is a rundown of her 2008 platform:
Abortion
1. Respect the rulings of Roe vs. Wade, but make adoptions to the ruling possible
2. The right to choice must constitutionally be safeguarded.
3. Late term abortions should be legal only when the mother's life or health is at risk.
4. Support for parental notice of teen pregnancy and family planning programs.
5. Supports expansion of embryonic stem cell research.
6. Believes in reaching out to teens in order to reduce teen pregnancy through funding of sexual education and providing contraceptives.
7. In summation, abortion should be kept legal, safe and rare.
Budget & Economy
1. Protection of the next generation through paying off the United States debt.
2. Reduction of outsourcing-bring more jobs back home.
3. Reduction of taxes within a balanced budget.
4. No history of support for reduction of federal spending.
Civil Rights
1. Supports rights being provided to gays in domestic partnerships.
2. Military service should be based on conduct, not sexual orientation. (Pro-Gay rights)
3. Reduction of prostitution is a major concern.
4. Emphasis on women's rights being interchangeable with human rights.
5. An apology for slavery is due, but there should be more focus on changes to civil rights in the present.
Crime
1. Supports the "Three Strikes" rule and the construction of more prisons.
2. Supports increased funding and stricter sentences for hate crimes.
3. Supports requiring DNA testing for federal executions.
Education
1. Opposes merit pay for individual teachers.
2. Address the shortage of teachers by providing a salary increase.
3. Create smaller class sizes and increase the number of after-school programs available to reduce gang membership.
4. Metal detectors at schools are highly valuable to safety and should not be seen as an intrusion.
5. Increase of arts education in our schools.
6. Does not support school vouchers because they take money from public schools. Pro-public education voting record.
7. Charter schools are good in providing options within the public school system.
Energy
1. Proposes a Strategic Energy Fund that would raise $50 billion over 10 years by taxing the “excess profits” of oil companies and cutting their tax breaks. The money would be invested in “clean energy technologies,” including renewable energy, energy efficiency, “clean coal,” plug-in hybrids, cellulosic ethanol and other biofuels, and more. Clinton describes it as “an Apollo Project-like program dedicated to achieving energy independence.”
2. Calls for cutting U.S. carbon dioxide emissions 80 percent below 1990 levels by 2050. Would accomplish this through a cap-and-trade system that would auction off 100 percent of emissions permits, making polluters pay for the CO2 they emit.
3. Emphasizes the creation of “green-collar jobs” in the fields of clean energy and energy efficiency. Aims to create up to 5 million clean-energy jobs over the next decade.
4. Made her campaign carbon-neutral in April 2007, one month after John Edwards did.
5. Calls for the U.S. to cut its consumption of foreign oil by two-thirds of projected levels by 2030.
6. Supports a goal to get 25 percent of the U.S. electricity supply from renewable sources by 2030.
7. Supports raising fleet-wide fuel-economy standards to 40 miles per gallon by 2020 and 55 mpg by 2030.
8. Has advocated for a summer “gas-tax holiday” to ease consumer prices at the pump. The proposal would suspend the 18-cent federal gasoline tax and 24-cent diesel tax from Memorial Day to Labor Day, to be paid for by a tax on oil-company profits.
9. Supports coal-to-liquid fuels if they emit 20 percent less carbon over their lifecycle than conventional fuels. On June 19, 2007, voted in favor of an amendment that would provide loans for coal projects, including liquefied coal; the amendment did not pass.
Foreign Policy
1. Fight terrorism with cooperation.
2. The smartest strategic choice is maintaining peace.
3. Supports becoming more engaged in world affairs involving human rights; we must lead by staying engaged with the rest of the world.
Gun Control
1. Supports limiting access to guns by looking for early warning signs of violent intentions among purchasers
2. Supports licensing and registering all handguns.
3. Increased control on guns will keep them out of the wrong hands.
Health Care
1. Support for universal coverage through affordable health care options for all citizens.
2. Increase the commitment to the Global AIDS crisis.
3. Regulation of tobacco by implementing high penalties for underage smoking.
4. Supports strengthening the Medicare program.
Homeland Security
1. Supports a nuclear test ban treaty
2. Supported reauthorizing the Patriot Act (excluding the wiretap provision).
Immigration
1. Supports a guest worker program and enabling guest workers to gain citizenship.
Social Security
1. Believes social security protects both families and retirees.
2. Social security is one of the greatest inventions of American democracy. Pro-senior voting record
War & Peace
1. Supports re-deployment out of Iraq in 90 days; critic of the Iraq war under Bush's lead though she voted in favor of it in 2002.
2. Does not support construction of permanent bases in Iraq but does support continual residual force.
3. Restrict the number of troops in Iraq and limit war funding.
4. Improve relations between Israel and the United States
5. Condemns bigotry against Muslims as a form of anti-terrorism.
Welfare & Poverty
1. AmeriCorps should be fully funded.
2. The homeless should not be criminalized, rather they should be aided.
3. Establish a National Affordable Housing Trust Fund for the United States.
4. Provide equal access to capital and jobs for all.
She is what she is...a corporatist Dem with a bit of a hawkish streak who is liberal on social issues. There is no great mystery to Hillary Clinton and her political ambitions/goals.
If Mchelle Obama decides to enter politics and in 10 years is running for the presidency would you have the same issue with another Obama in office?
As a registered Democrat would that bother you like it does with Clinton?
Domingo Halliburton
Handmade in USA
I'm probably more of a democrat in name only. I'm just sick of having the same thing in office. 5 of the last 7 terms have either been a Bush or Clinton.
