How much should the man pay?

BocaRear

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And what does that make him when "master" is abandoned with nothing to show for it? All these men who were the "master" of his household being left alone with while his GF bails with a full bank account. Or these "masters" who have had the "power" in their house but still can't even get his wife to bust his nut yet he's less of a man if he doesn't financially submit. Is he still the master when he's taken for half his assets, wealth and support?

Men have been made to believe their manliness relies on their ability to be taken advantage of. Think about that for a second and relate it to the things you take pride in.

"Financially submit" :dahell: do you fail to understand that fundamentally, as the man, when you pay for things you have power? There's nothing submissive about it, it's the exact opposite.
Why do you think feminists push for 50/50 shyt? Because they understand these power dynamics.

& Who's marrying these type of women? Any fool that enters these type of legal contracts with these types of bytches deserves everything that happens to them. We only wifing women from the motherland but you don't know about that :camby:

There's a cultural divide that you don't understand because you live in the West and have been so emasculated to the point where you don't understand that the fundamental characteristics of a man is to provide for his family. Sad.:scusthov:
 

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If you're going to live with someone you have to know where they are outside of just bills. What are their other debts like car payment, student loans, etc because that eats into the amount they will have towards shared bills. I think the whole point of living together is so that both of you can be comfortable financially so I would hope people talk about this kind of stuff before they move in and figure out a plan that works for both. It may be in the beginning they have to pay 50/50 and as they pay down debt they can move to where the guy pays more. I think a good number of women PREFER the traditional role of the man being the provider, but sometimes you have to grow your relationship to that point and both will need to put in work to get there.
 

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being the patriach and providing for your family is being a bytch now huh, so many emasculated nikkas around. sad. :wow:
I see these dudes points. Its just men don't want to be simps and make themselves look like fools. You pay for everything or a huge majority and women may be telling others "yo this niqqa a sucka...I got him fooled." It will look real bad on our parts if we working stressful jobs and paying for everything, unable to save shyt because we paying for rent/mortgage and other associated bills which is designed for TWO INCOMES. Then when shyt hits the fan...meaning she cheats on you, the relationship has irreconcilable differences, or whatever...she gets to keep the house and you end up very fuked at the end.
 

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Financially submit" :dahell: do you fail to understand that fundamentally, as the man, when you pay for things you have power?
What you can't comprehend is that's not factual. Who has the true power, the person paying or the person who controls someone into paying for them? You're a puppet on strings, she's a liberated person doing what she wants. How is that control? Don't give me no more bullshyt rhetoric either.
 

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Shared bank accounts is a whole other thread :russ:




We still talking relationships? :heh:

It's a univeral principle, there's no such thing as a free meal. If you want to be the patriarch of your family then you have to do what the patriarch does, otherwise you have to accept an equal environment.

I, personally, believe that my wife should raise the kids, cook, clean & only work if she wants to, that's typical of most Africans.

But what kind of logic is it that we both splitting shyt 50/50 and on top of that she doing the housework?

Some nikkas wanna be a patriach without doing what men are supposed to do.
 

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I see these dudes points. Its just men don't want to be simps and make themselves look like fools. You pay for everything or a huge majority and women may be telling others "yo this niqqa a sucka...I got him fooled." It will look real bad on our parts if we working stressful jobs and paying for everything, unable to save shyt because we paying for rent/mortgage and other associated bills which is designed for TWO INCOMES. Then when shyt hits the fan...meaning she cheats on you, the relationship has irreconcilable differences, or whatever...she gets to keep the house and you end up very fuked at the end.

Eh I don't think it's simping if it's your wife :ld:
if it's your girlfriend then yeah, I'd be inclined to agree

But when you're in a marriage & you got kids then the Patriarchal structure is the best way to go
 

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Boy that feminism and equality left this thread with the quickness.

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Have any of the brehettes who posted in this thread referred to themselves as feminists? The only brehette that I know of that says so hasnt posted in this thread..

Maybe I've missed someone's past comments though.
 

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Eh I don't think it's simping if it's your wife :ld:
if it's your girlfriend then yeah, I'd be inclined to agree

But when you're in a marriage & you got kids then the Patriarchal structure is the best way to go
I feel u...its just men can easily get the short end of the stick in this society....if u even call it the short end....hell the woman can get the entire stick.

I do agree with u that some men have a warped mentality where as they can go 50/50 or even much less than that or not work at all and be worthless financially...but still expect a woman to fully submit and cook and clean all the time. It don't work like that. But women need to do their parts too and not look for a sugar daddy unless a man agrees to do that from the get go. In a traditional relationship, its imperative that a man carefully selects and use good judgement...even tho shyt can still hit the fan. You need to find a woman who has ur best interest and really loves and care about u. If not, ur fuked. Also, if things change...cuz u know relationships can change and turn the tide easily over years...one can get fat, unattractive, or one can find another person who is more attractive...or a stay at home mom can get bored and find the mailman sexy and invite him in and u know what can end up. If things change...a man can get fuked too so life is hard...but its best to make sure u have a good mental connection with ur chick.

Its just this feminism shyt fuks shyt up along with inflation and increase of owning a home/renting, cost of living, and more women in workforce and doing so well whereas a heterosexual woman don't need a man unless she wants a baby...and they can go to a sperm donor for that...which isn't the best option but still an option. It just makes it hard for a man. I think women who want to be stay at home moms need to marry a military bruh or a man making AT LEAST six figures...or a baller, doctor, lawyer, or some high profile job. It makes things more feasible.
 

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You wrote all of this for nothing

Most brehs agree that 50/50 makes the most sense

Feminists trying to argue for no reason yet again :mjlol:

They agree with it because they can't afford not to lol. Tell the truth :heh:

Your post is an obvious reflection of this fact to be honest. You have a marked dislike for feminism, yet you are suddenly okay with being equal to women when it comes to helping you take care of your bills :mjlol:

You want it 50/50 because you can't take care of the bills yourself, not because you want to see your woman as your equal. Or because you see it as your obligation to take on 50% of her traditional role the same way you see it as her obligation to take on 50% of yours.
 
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2 working adults should be able to split the bills so the can achieve their goals(investments,trips) if im living or married that's my partner we make decisions together

If you aren't traditional in the sense of wanting to be the head of household, or aren't one of these types beating your chest about needing submission, being the final decision maker, having the woman doing the majority of the cooking, cleaning, and child rearing, etc. then of course.

But if you are, you're in for a big surprise. What I'm saying is true. Women aren't signing up for all that extra work for just the pleasure of being with you. If you don't want an overburdened wife who will eventually file or mentally check out of the marriage, you need to be okay adding to her life the way you are demanding she add to yours.

That is, if she's going to continue to be stressed at work to pay 50% of the bills, be prepared to take on 50% of the cleaning, cooking, child rearing, and other 24/7 household responsibilities that traditional wives did full time because they didn't have to do anything else.
 

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I say all that and I'm not even a traditional woman :mjlol:

I have too much ambition and passion for things outside the home for it to ever work for my relationship.

But I am growing and learning to understand relationships from that perspective. Men who are actually desiring to be in relationships with traditional minded women would be best to do the same :yeshrug:
 
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