How Do You Respond To c00ns Who Say, ‘Africans Sold Their Own People Into Slavery’?

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Consider this: Romans enslaved multiple European tribes they saw as 'others', but no one ever says 'Europeans sold their own into slavery'.

It's a disingenuous deflection "White" people use because they know they're full of shyt and the form of slavery that existed, here, that THEY created, was the absolute WORST in human history.​
 

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You comparing tik tok slaves to people 700 years ago, don’t quote me again.

You’re autistic.
How would slavery in Africa be different now than 700 years ago :skip:
many cultures that are doing it now were doing it back than :mjlol:

if slavery in Africa was "different" I would hope those tribes still have that "different slavery"
 

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Where does Pan Afrikanism come into play if it's alright to fukk over another African as long as he is not part of the tribe?

There was no need for Pan-Africanism in the 1600s-1700s.

Africa was RICH during that time.

Black men were fighting for CULTURAL SUPREMACY during that time.

Black men were fighting to be KING OF AFRICA.

Pan-Africanism didn't become necessary until the early 1900s when the Europeans launched a full-scale attack on the continent.
 

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There was no need for Pan-Africanism in the 1600s-1700s.

Africa was RICH during that time.

Black men were fighting for CULTURAL SUPREMACY during that time.

Black men were fighting to be KING OF AFRICA.

Pan-Africanism didn't become necessary until the early 1900s when the Europeans launched a full-scale attack on the continent.
People dont understand, you and your boy could get into a crazy heated argument but let a stranger start fukkin with one of you I bet the other comes running to help and start fighting back.
 

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Solid post one of the few people that understand the critical nuance of the situation. Let me add

1. This broad fraternization of Africans people do is weird. You dont see this kind of fraternization among Asians or Europeans & they went through 2 bouts of “world wars”. Historians don't say "The Germans invaded their own when they marched into Poland during WW2.” Different empires/kingdoms oftentimes from different Ethnic Groups had conflict with each other.

2. Both slave captors and slave traders were put on the same both because the sailors knew how to play both sides. Some people are descended from those very same slave traders they complain about who got played And captured by those European sailors
So are you and the dude you replying to saying it’s was ok for Africans to enslave other Africans
 

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Somehow Europeans went through world wars and still formed the likes of the UN, NATO, EU, etc, but you b*stards are convinced that Pan Africanism is holding us back
We aren't Europeans so the "Whatabout-ism' you're using doesn't work.

Black Americans control NO manufacturing or resources any African Nation needs, a completely different set of affairs than European Nations who forged alliances to share those resources.

Our taxes and limited resources go to help EVERYBODY else, but we get no compensation for it from those we help.

THAT'S why it is counterproductive. It may form alliances, but, in the meantime, we're footing the bill for an extended family that has no intention of paying us back because they can't.​
 

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There was no need for Pan-Africanism in the 1600s-1700s.

Africa was RICH during that time.

Black men were fighting for CULTURAL SUPREMACY during that time.

Black men were fighting to be KING OF AFRICA.

Pan-Africanism didn't become necessary until the early 1900s when the Europeans launched a full-scale attack on the continent.
According to "historical records" 12.5 million Africans were trafficked to the "new world", this number not accounting for those that didn't survive the middle passage. Let's not forget that nursing mothers and children were also trafficked.
What type of never ending wars were being fought in Africa that affected so many lives over multiple centuries?
 

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You are comparing the 1400s to now the optics aren’t even remotely same. If your choice as a prisoner of war is between Execution or Exile which one you choosing?
What do you mean the optics aren’t the same, and what about the people who were kidnapped and forced into slavery
 

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This is what happens when you don’t understand world history or cultural differences you get posts like these
They're not trying to hide the point. They talk about it with the nuance it deserves. I'm baffled this much has to be explained. The problem here is that people try and group a whole ass continent more diverse than most places.



This thread is wild. 1/3 of the posts are historically accurate information and the other 2/3 are being just determined to stay ignorant no matter what is said.



Where does Pan Afrikanism come into play if it's alright to fukk over another African as long as he is not part of the tribe?

That's literally the opposite of what he said. He pointed out that when tribalism was the wave rather than Black unity, different tribes treated each other as enemies and as a result they all lost in the end. If everyone divvies themselves up into tribes, they're easy as fukk for a more powerful outside force to conquer. He's pointing out that pan-africanism would specifically combat against that bullshyt.



help me out, breh. How did tribes fail, if tribes still exist and are important in some countries?

Because all of Africa was conquered breh. :what:

He's pointing out that tribalism allowed White people to come in and take advantage of Africa. Exact same shyt happened in the Americas - White people came in and allied with the weaker tribes to defeat the most powerful tribe, then backstabbed the weaker ones afterwards. When you have tons of internal divisions, you become far easier for outsiders to take advantage of. Yeah tribes are important today - and look how difficult governance is in the countries where folk from one tribe refuse to be governed by anyone from any other tribe.




The african people that sold slaves didn't sell their own people, but other tribes whom weren't their own people. As an african i believe african countries that have that history such as those in west africa do owe reparations, and that will even bring pressure on jungus to pay reparations also.

Wait, who would pay reparations to who? There isn't a single African country in existence that was around back then. The groups that originally sold the slaves were conquered, destroyed, had their resources taken by Europe, and didn't get independence until a couple hundred years later. The money they made from the slave trade is all in Europe or USA now.



There a dude who was a modern slave in Africa most of his life on Tik-Tok ima try and find his videos rn

He was branded and whipped yea sure slavery in Africa was "different" :francis:

"Someone told me there was freedom of religion in America but then I learned about the Salem Witch Trials and found out religious freedom was a bunch of bullshyt."




Africans(hamites) didn’t sell other Africans. They sold Israelites(“black” people) to the white man (Esau). If you do your research you’ll see the Israelites of the Bible are black people that are scattered all over the earth.


Alright breh. :russ:
 

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According to "historical records" 12.5 million Africans were trafficked to the "new world", this number not accounting for those that didn't survive the middle passage. Let's not forget that nursing mothers and children were also trafficked.
What type of never ending wars were being fought in Africa that affected so many lives over multiple centuries?
Some of them weren’t even wars. Look up king leopold of Belgium and what he did to Kongo now imagine that x5 in certain regions. You need to look at various regions and how they fell. They didn’t all fall the same way. How a place like Kongo fell into the slave trade could be radically different to how a place like mali or Angola did
 

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Wait, who would pay reparations to who? There isn't a single African country in existence that was around back then. The groups that originally sold the slaves were conquered, destroyed, had their resources taken by Europe, and didn't get independence until a couple hundred years later. The money they made from the slave trade is all in Europe or USA now.

In my opinion the reparations can come in different forms, such as making it easier for ADOS and other descedent of african in places like carribean and south america to come back and settle. I know some countries such as Ghana and Sierra Leone have these innitiatives.
 

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According to "historical records" 12.5 million Africans were trafficked to the "new world", this number not accounting for those that didn't survive the middle passage. Let's not forget that nursing mothers and children were also trafficked.
What type of never ending wars were being fought in Africa that affected so many lives over multiple centuries?


War is war.

Haitians & Dominicans spent most of the 1800s invading each other's borders and killing each other.

And guess what happened in the end? Both of us got invaded and occupied by the US marines.

Idk why you're holding Africans to this high moral standard as if ALL MEN haven't been involved in warfare throughout history

white men, arab men, asian men.
 
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