How did a white guy create a more realistic portrayal of the hood than any black person in Hollywoo?

[Wild self]

Because Fif's show is about a Black supernikka. In reality all that happens is that the police watch your workers hem them up on a charge remind them that they will never be as rich as the boss get them to snitch use that as evidence to get bugs and wires around the boss wait for him to say something incrimination and the boss goes to jail for 30 years.

Real Kingpins had a 5 year run before they got killed or jailed at best.

Exactly. 50 Cent writes these "that nikka" stories and gives into his fantasy as being the unquestionable boss that has other goons and drug dealers shook. Not just him, but a lot of these no-name hood films and black directors on DVD and on streaming services have the "that nikka" character in them, like the remake of "Superfly" and the character Priest.

 

[Luke Cage]

Who was?

The creater of the wire and the corner

 

[NinoBrown]

I told my friend (who grew up in Baltimore) that String was from England...he was like..."Nah....no way". Hit the google search...threw his hands up.."Had me fooled"

The Corner hits a bit too close to home....

 

[MIC Que]

They had too many NY dudes from Hassan Johnson, to Michael K. Williams, to Jamie Hector, to Larry Gilliard Jr. and Andre Royo down to Mack and Julito
Snoop was like the only authentic Baltimorean with the accent and all

That nikka Chris looked toooo Nigerian

Lmao they used a lot of Maryland/dmv nikkas too. That’s where Chris from lmao I actually think he’s Wale cousin. And Slim Charles is Big G from Backyard Band from DC

 

[Wild self]

Too many black writers and directors have these pigeon-hole one-dimensional views of black characters in these shows. Its like you are either:

1) "THAT nikka" that no one questions their gangsta; always in the streets and hardly gets into trouble with the law.

2) Some dirty henchman/follower of the main "that nikka" characters that's in the streets; somewhat clumsy and gets caught doing dirt.

3) Some educated black person that is a bookworm or some Carlton Banks-sellout; wears glasses and has no confidence.

4) Some bum ass lame dude that gets clowned by women; dresses wack and no mouthpiece.

 

[Afro]

Too many black writers and directors have these pigeon-hole one-dimensional views of black characters in these shows. Its like you are either:

1) "THAT nikka" that no one questions their gangsta; always in the streets and hardly gets into trouble with the law.

2) Some dirty henchman/follower of the main "that nikka" characters that's in the streets; somewhat clumsy and gets caught doing dirt.

3) Some educated black person that is a bookworm or some Carlton Banks-sellout; wears glasses and has no confidence.

4) Some bum ass lame dude that gets clowned by women; dresses wack and no mouthpiece.

Complain about limited representation, only to stereotype just as hard

 

[Wild self]

Complain about limited representation, only to stereotype just as hard

And it cuts different when you find out that many BLACK writers and directors from these environments, pigeonhole their own people. Its like, the moment you gain a bachelor's degree as a black male, you automatically a nerd that can't get black women (anymore). Or if you catch a body, you GAIN swag and clout to where you bagging the cartel's main bytch with ease

 

[Afro]

And it cuts different when you find out that many BLACK writers and directors from these environments, pigeonhole their own people. Its like, the moment you gain a bachelor's degree as a black male, you automatically a nerd that can't get black women (anymore). Or if you catch a body, you GAIN swag and clout to where you bagging the cartel's main bytch with ease

They can only speak on their own experiences and shallow preconceived notions


Would rather live in a pre built societal fantasy than spread their wings

Limited as hell, that is why I could never get into Power and Empire.

 

[Wild self]

They can only speak on their own experiences and shallow preconceived notions


Would rather live in a pre built societal fantasy than spread their wings

Limited as hell, that is why I could never get into Power and Empire.

And the people that consume this content in large amounts, are never happy with their personal lives. And they express that on social media to portray themselves as some kind of Kingpin and delude themselves from reality and well-rounded people that have varied hobbies and interests. Even clubs and social events have grown folks doing everything in their power to not be themselves. Like, I can be making 6 figures at a low key career, but I ain't a social lame nor I'm some kind of punk that cannot fight. Or, you could be deep in the streets, and look bummy and bytches are scared of you despite doing dirt of being a "real nikka" . But in the eyes of these black content creators, no such thing exists.

 

[LevelUp]

That would be Khandi Alexander

Sure played DeAndre mom but no I was referring to Tasha Smith who played Ronnie .

 

[LevelUp]

I don't know if anybody stated this already, but David Chase and Edward Burns used Lamar's story for both the Corner and the Wire. If you all are fans of the Wire then you will remember that Lamar (DeAndre McCullough) is Brother Mouzone's assistant. McCullough died back in 2012.

So the story (because it was actually only one) was about Lamar's life in the drug trade. Burns was a cop that knew him.

A Better Life Eternally Eluded the Boy From ‘The Corner’ (Published 2012).

McCullough is the step son Donnie Andrews who was the real life Omar. Andrews married McCullough's mother Fran Boyd. Andrews died in 2012 too.

Donnie Andrews, the Real-Life Omar Little, Dies at 58 (Published 2012)

DeAndre real life mom as well as his Girl at the time makes a appearance on the show. I forget the episode for his mom but his girlfriend was the chubby chick who was a secretary and had the scene where Prez was going seen about being a teacher and she said something like "pronounce your name cause I'm not Eveeeeeeeeeen going to try " and in another scene, Prez was trying to open a door at the school and she tells him to push on the door harder and it doesn't budge "she said Don't a goddamn thing work right around this raggedy ass place" or something like that

Hold on found the video with her in it

 

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Interesting thread.

 

[Vandelay]

They can only speak on their own experiences and shallow preconceived notions


Would rather live in a pre built societal fantasy than spread their wings

Limited as hell, that is why I could never get into Power and Empire.

This is exactly why I couldn't get into Power. Nothing wrong with romanticizing and dramaticizing movies and TV, sometimes real life is boring...but they overdo it...it comes off as cartoonist.

Wire had more of a balance. It wasn't a police procedural, but it dealt enough with the politics, used enough real people, and shyt was inspired by real life events that it was a great show.

 

[downtheline]

The book Homicide as well.

Was a show as well.



Frank Pembleton -

 

[Mowgli]

His consultants are black.
He likes small details.
He's a good writer that understands the components of world building.
He understands the game from both sides.

But he still did some bullshyt in some of those eps