How Can We Address Anti-intellectualism in Our Communities?

[MeachTheMonster]

You can look at me cross-eyed all you want. If at the end of the day you have nothing of actually substance against my argument, then what I say stands.

I want to clarify myself here. I am a young black male and I am proud to be black. But part of my love for the black community has to involve criticizing black america so we get out of the mess we're in. Some people like yourself would like to believe any time someone criticizes the black community they're a sell out. That kind of mentality has been going on since day one of the creation of the welfare state, and within the last 50 years where has it got us? Absolutely no where. Black america was in a better position in the 40s and 50s when the KKK and jim crow were in full blown effect lynching people on the streets.

So that smiley you posted, of some dumbass rapper/athlete/entertainer looking confused represents the epitome of black america today and you ought to be ashamed of yourself for posting it.

Again, it appears that no one here is willing to actually debate me. My arguments cannot be deconstructed.

You're arguments are flat out wrong on so many levels, there's nothing to deconstruct.

 

[bigDeeOT]

Charlotte
Indianapolis
Columbus
Are all great cities with a good size AA middle class.the problem is the government not the people

This is from wikipedia.
Columbus - 28% blacks.
Indianapolis - 27% blacks.
Charlotte - 35%

There's a sizable black population there. But what I am saying is that when cities are taken over by blacks, it never ends well. None of these cities have a majority black population.

Now if you go here
http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/in/indianapolis/crime/

It says that Indianapolis safer than 3% of the cities in the U.S.
Columbus, Ohio is also safer than only 3% of cities.
Charlotte is safer than 11% of U.S. cities.

So you pointed me out three cities that are supposedly doing well, and I just pointed out that they're actually worse off than 90% of the cities in this entire country in terms of crime rates.

My point stands. My argument cannot be deconstructed. I would say I appreciate the effort but you didn't even spend 5min trying to look this up.

 

[bigDeeOT]

That smiley is of a barber working in a black owned barbershop.

Black owned barbershop. Funny how the only thing blacks own in this country is barbershops. We don't even own the beauty supply stores that black women get their hair products from. That market caters to black people and black people alone. No one else in the world can use those products except black people. And yet their owned by koreans and arabs. What a joke.

 

[Calmye]

This is from wikipedia.
Columbus - 28% blacks.
Indianapolis - 27% blacks.
Charlotte - 35%

There's a sizable black population there. But what I am saying is that when cities are taken over by blacks, it never ends well. None of these cities have a majority black population.

Now if you go here
http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/in/indianapolis/crime/

It says that Indianapolis safer than 3% of the cities in the U.S.
Columbus, Ohio is also safer than only 3% of cities.
Charlotte is safer than 11% of U.S. cities.

So you pointed me out three cities that are supposedly doing well, and I just pointed out that they're actually worse off than 90% of the cities in this entire country in terms of crime rates.

My point stands. My argument cannot be deconstructed. I would say I appreciate the effort but you didn't even spend 5min trying to look this up.

The self hate you are spewing is disgusting. Im not arguing against your point I was replaying to another poster calm the fukk down

 

[Calmye]

Black owned barbershop. Funny how the only thing blacks own in this country is barbershops. We don't even own the beauty supply stores that black women get their hair products from. That market caters to black people and black people alone. No one else in the world can use those products except black people. And yet their owned by koreans and arabs. What a joke.

So now its a bad thing to own a barbershop? Its a small business homie wtf are you doing with your life? Also there are many black owned businesses that produce hair products. You act like its an easy feet to take over an industry thats ran by a couple of multibillion dollar companies

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

sohh nobody checked this cat after publishing this post....

Its coming bruh.......Just wait

 

[Insensitive]

I don't at all consider myself a white supremacist. Now I can very well see why you call me that, but trust me I'm not. If what I am saying sounds like white supremacy, I honestly think its irrelevant. If at the end of the day you can't deconstruct my arguments, then what I say stands. You can call me c00n all you want. Its funny though, because you are representing the very embodiment of what this thread is about. Anti-intellectualism. Its very easy to excuse yourself from having an intelligent discussion.

You don't consider yourself a white supremacist but here's a few post from storm front
compared against yours :

This whole idea that we're all victims and its all whitey's fault for everything is exactly why black america is so degenerate. If we're ever going to succeed in this country its going to be by first taking accountability for the state we're in today instead of always trying to blame it on white people and slavery. Right now there are too many tools available in this country for black people to succeed and be successful but you've got the white liberal media and Al Sharpton pulling out the race card any chance they get. But of course they're so conveniently silent about the eight thousand blacks that are killed every year by their own brothers.

You know the ironic thing is that a big reason why so many people are racist is because so many black people think they're problems are due to racism.

This is 100% true. Noam Chomsky basically devoted his life to proving this point.


But here's the thing, we embrace it. You don't ever see any leaders in the so called african american community speaking out and denouncing anti-intellectualism. The only person I can think of is Ben Carson. If we as a community wanted to get people educated and stop them from being sucked in to all these distractions, you would think there would be a movement to do so, but there isn't.



I'm not sure what laws you're talking about but right now liberal policies are designed to keep the african american feeling like a victim so he doesn't have to work to get anywhere. Why should someone stand up on their own two feet if they've been brainwashed to believe no amount of education will ever get him anywhere? There's nothing holding back the modern day negro except himself, and the welfare state helps to keep him feeling like a victim with a sense of entitlement .

And check this out. If you look at the population of racist people out there, some percentage of those people are racists just because they don't like black skin color. But I suspect a larger percent of people are racist because of what they see in black america and how we advertise ourselves. When you have so many blacks involved in a culture of anti-intellecualism, these white people generalize and assume that all blacks don't want to learn anything. That, in combination with the fact that affirmative action allows blacks with only half the skills to be places where others need the whole package, makes any non-black person highly skeptical of the credentials of a black person.

Now I don't think those generalizations are valid. Racist people should be blamed for being stupid. But I'm saying, black people are also to blame for creating those generalizations in the first place, which will ultimately make people racist.

Also, in response to you saying discrimination is a factor in why blacks haven't achieved anything. I think people are over emphasizing the magnitude of that factor. I think if we are to address why black america is in the state of degeneracy its in today, we would be doing ourselves a huge disservice to focus any significant time on racism. There's too much other bigger issues.

Honestly, I think the racism problem will fix itself. Racism will never go away, but it will dramatically reduce in magnitude once black america gets to a point of achievement. Then a lot of people will start looking up to blacks after seeing all they have achieved.

I have always thought of liberals as the "Nurse Ratchet" character from "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest"- to the rest of the world, they act as if they have non-White's best interests at heart. In private, however, they destroy the spirit, self-reliance, and pride of the non-White with the creation of demeaning policies full of handicaps so non-Whites can be "equal".

The slavery of the non-White comes about in a sick symbiotic relationship that destroys any true belief in "equality": the non-White is manipulated into the belief that they ARE less and NEED the liberal and his agenda to "succeed". The non-White becomes a mindless meat-muppet, an automaton, a pawn (whatever you wish to name it), because they have come to believe the liberal and vote for whatever policy is put forth since the liberals are "for them". Goodbye self-reliance, dignity, spirit, pride.

The liberal's manipulation of non-Whites allows them to get their agendas passed in government because they "snagged" the non-White vote. Their numerous slogans and banners for "equality" allow them to get laid with each other while allowing them a sense of smugness of how enlightened THEY are compared to the "average" White person. They truly are sick, egotistical individuals with inflated opinions about themselves.

No surprise. Looting is what blacks do when opportunity presents itself. We can thank "liberals" for this behavior. After all, they're solely responsible for the black entitlement and victim mentality, as well as legitimizing and inciting hatred against whites. Should any liberal(s) beg to differ, I'll be more than glad to correct them. We'll start by using time as a frame of reference. Before liberals decided what's best for blacks, this sort of behavior was all but unheard of.

Tell me this doesn't sound like some shyt @theworldismine13 or @bigDeeOT
would say.
Actually compare this post to this one :

I think the solution is very simple. Black people need to change their attitude, and everything will flow from there. Once black america can sit down and talk about how WE can help ourselves instead of talking about what THEY need to do to help us, the solutions will flow from there.

The problem is all the well-to-do and middle class blacks like everyone on this forum are still a huge part of what's wrong with our community. And I say that because we can't even begin to fix the problems in the hood if we all think the problems stem from the white man. We'll never get anywhere with that. We've had that mentallity since day one of the creation of the welfare state and look where its got us. We're going backwards.

 

[godkiller]

This is from wikipedia.
Columbus - 28% blacks.
Indianapolis - 27% blacks.
Charlotte - 35%

There's a sizable black population there. But what I am saying is that when cities are taken over by blacks, it never ends well. None of these cities have a majority black population.

Now if you go here
http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/in/indianapolis/crime/

It says that Indianapolis safer than 3% of the cities in the U.S.
Columbus, Ohio is also safer than only 3% of cities.
Charlotte is safer than 11% of U.S. cities.

So you pointed me out three cities that are supposedly doing well, and I just pointed out that they're actually worse off than 90% of the cities in this entire country in terms of crime rates.

My point stands. My argument cannot be deconstructed. I would say I appreciate the effort but you didn't even spend 5min trying to look this up.

Well your argument is that blacks can't run cities. First, there are only a few black cities to choose so there's lesser variety. Second a lot of crime in a city doesn't mean blacks can't run cities. Third most blacks are poor and government doesn't really affect them when the latter is constrained by money and state law. Fourth there are black run countries in the Carribean that do about as well as Latin American countries in terms of GPA per capita. There are emerging African countries too.

 

[bigDeeOT]

All ethnicities kill each other than any other group. That's because they interact with each other on a more personal basis than they might the other group. White murderers are largely intraracial to the tune of 82%+.

Here's what you don't get. White people make up 73% of the population, and yet they account for 45% of murder victims. That means there is an UNDER representation of white murder victims in relation to the population.
Blacks make up 13% of the population, and yet they account for HALF (50%) of the murder victims in this country. That means there is GROSS over representation of black murder victims in relation to the population.
So when you try and make it seem like whites are killing whites just as blacks are killing blacks, that's simply not true by ANY measure.

 

[Serious]

@I'm Billy FUCO!!

this is your type of discussion breh,

 

[godkiller]

Here's what you don't get. White people make up 73% of the population, and yet they account for 45% of murder victims. That means there is an UNDER representation of white murder victims in relation to the population.
Blacks make up 13% of the population, and yet they account for HALF (50%) of the murder victims in this country. That means there is GROSS over representation of black murder victims in relation to the population.
So when you try and make it seem like whites are killing whites just as blacks are killing blacks, that's simply not true by ANY measure.

Your statistics don't invalidate anything I said earlier. Here what you don't get: most hate murders are [whatever]-on-black. It's important that it be addressed and not swept under the rug like the white supremacists want to happen.

 

[bigDeeOT]

You don't consider yourself a white supremacist but here's a few post from storm front
compared against yours :










Tell me this doesn't sound like some shyt @theworldismine13 or @bigDeeOT
would say.
Actually compare this post to this one :

Like I said dude. Its funny how I have to keep repeating myself here. You negroes just don't get it. I could not care LESS if what I say coincides with what a white supremacist says. I am not going to make my arguments any less logical just because I'm afraid they go in line with what a racists person says. It's unfortunate that it comes across that way, but at the end of the day, I am making very valid arguments cannot be deconstructed. And you are only proving it by playing this game of refusing to address the issues I have made clear.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

I think the question is HOW do we develop grade A schools in the black community without going through white people?

There are underlying issues that need to be addressed before even getting to this point....I know this type of rhetoric sounds good and we do need to educate our own, but there are things we gotta to do before we even get to this point......

A community is where you control the financial institutions, government, jobs, school board, and police dept....I don't think we have that here in America......We will not see a school dedicated to teaching black kids at a high level without outside assistance....

 

[Insensitive]

sohh nobody checked this cat after publishing this post....

And this is his "criticism" of black people.
He keeps projecting that "c00n" talk in his
posts because he knows he's a fukking c00n.

Like I said dude. Its funny how I have to keep repeating myself here. You negroes just don't get it. I could not care LESS if what I say coincides with what a white supremacist says. I am not going to make my arguments any less logical just because I'm afraid they go in line with what a racists person says. It's unfortunate that it comes across that way, but at the end of the day, I am making very valid arguments cannot be deconstructed. And you are only proving it by playing this game of refusing to address the issues I have made clear.

You couldn't careless because you're a clown.
I hope they accept you at Klan Rallies Brah.

You can't make this shyt up.
HE just said WHITE SUPREMACISTS
are logical

 

[Calmye]

Here's what you don't get. White people make up 73% of the population, and yet they account for 45% of murder victims. That means there is an UNDER representation of white murder victims in relation to the population.
Blacks make up 13% of the population, and yet they account for HALF (50%) of the murder victims in this country. That means there is GROSS over representation of black murder victims in relation to the population.
So when you try and make it seem like whites are killing whites just as blacks are killing blacks, that's simply not true by ANY measure.

What does that have to do with "anti-intellectuals" in the community?