How Can We Address Anti-intellectualism in Our Communities?

[MeachTheMonster]

I have done research, I have read histories and current situations and using words like chains and crutches is not hyperbolic, calling people c00ns and not black is hyperbolic and anti intellectual

I'm not repeating anybody's words, my words are my own and they are an amalgamation of everything ive seen, read and experienced

No. Your narative is the same as what's been used for centuries to justify what's gone on in this country.

Why was slavery OK? Cause black people needed to fix themselves

Why is giving black students less educational resources ok? Cause black people need to fix themselves.

Same line different day, and it's a damn shame that they have convinced some black people to promote this nonsense.

 

[theworldismine13]

Nah, what you're saying comes from you being a Tom.
Meech is on point, all these broad sweeping generalizations about the black community are entirely inaccurate. It really makes the average reader and me wonder when the last time is that you've seen a black person or are even black yourself.

You aren't bro black, you're pro bullshyt.

No one in here is saying the white man needs to save us. It's already been pointed out to you and you couldn't respond and are now continuing the same line of posting.

Wait hold up, what is it that I couldn't respond to? I think y'all are the ones that can't respond to the question of what ideas do you have for improving the black community that don't involve white people? You have none, that's the reality

I have and always have represented and stood up for complete intellectual freedom, so I reject this notion of using adherence to a particular ideology as a litmus test for blackness

In other words you can call me any name you want and question my blackness all day long, and I don't give a fuk and which is why I won't even get into the issue of your blackness which has been an ongoing controversy around these here parts, cuz lucky for you I don't give a fuk, and I think all people should share their opinion in the bastion of freedom known as HL

So thanks for sharing

 

[theworldismine13]

No. Your narative is the same as what's been used for centuries to justify what's gone on in this country.

Why was slavery OK? Cause black people needed to fix themselves

Why is giving black students less educational resources ok? Cause black people need to fix themselves.

Same line different day, and it's a damn shame that they have convinced some black people to promote this nonsense.

You are just pulling shyt out of your ass, when did I say slavery was ok or that black students should get less resources?

 

[MeachTheMonster]

You are just pulling shyt out of your ass, when did I say slavery was ok or that black students should get less resources?

I'm not pulling anything out of my ass. You've been repeating the same crap for months.

Throughout the history of this country inequalities have been justified by blaming those at the disadvantage. You are doing the exact same thing here. False science and misleading statistics has always been a tool used back up the rhetoric. And that's exactly what you are doing here.

It's truly despicable and this will be my last post in this thread cause all of this has been said plenty of times over.

 

[Kritic]

what do you call a black man who's raped his sisters, killed his own brothers, sells crack to people who would otherwise have a lot of potential in their life, and has 7 b*stard children that he's left to fend for themselves so they can grow up to be thugs. You're telling me, that brother right there is a VICTIM of the system, and I'm a sell out?

looking at the situation at a large scale he is a victim of the system. and I'm saying that as an attempted murder victim. as a victim of these victims of course I want them locked up. but the system doesn't really want to help them. the system wants to keep them down while make money off them..

 

[Lifer11]

America is dumbed down and shallow. "Reward" intellectuals the same way actors and entertainers are and more people would see value in it.

 

[sakano]

looking at the situation at a large scale he is a victim of the system. and I'm saying that as an attempted murder victim. as a victim of these victims of course I want them locked up. but the system doesn't really want to help them. the system wants to keep them down while make money off them..

Well, one thing we must realize is that others don't always have our best interests at heart.

Hence, it's vital for us to support ourselves and look out for one another. Who else will?
And that's why it pains me to see so many black children growing up in fatherless homes. Or to see black men and black women disrespecting each other.

 

[88m3]

Wait hold up, what is it that I couldn't respond to? I think y'all are the ones that can't respond to the question of what ideas do you have for improving the black community that don't involve white people? You have none, that's the reality

I have and always have represented and stood up for complete intellectual freedom, so I reject this notion of using adherence to a particular ideology as litmus test for blackness

In other words you can call me any name you want and question my blackness all day long, and I don't give a fuk and which is why I won't even get into the issue of your blackness which has been an ongoing controversy around these here parts, cuz lucky for you I don't give a fuk, and I think all people should share their opinion in the bastion of freedom known as HL

So thanks for sharing

Point out to us here in this thread where people are saying they want whites to fix xyz.

You hold blacks in a really negative light. You make broad sweeping generalizations about millions of people and what our communities are or aren't doing.
You are everything that I say that you are. It's not about name calling or anything else, it has to be said and it is what it is.

When your particular ideology is based on false information and the type of hyperbole that comes from the far right and Neo Nazi's(no hyperbole) don't be surprised when you're called on it. I think it was Meech who pointed it out, anyways what you're doing is essentially being anti-intellectual. So you can stop throwing that word around anytime you feel like.

I don't give a damn about what people think on this website and I've shown my contempt for the majority of posters here everyday.
I know where I am from, and I know who I am.

You can say that blacks are victims looking for handouts and "maybe if you left the black community you would see its faults" all you want.
Anyone who reads this forum and is remotely intelligent can see through you and that you're ignorant. I don't think you're malicious, I just think that you're a really ignorant person.

 

[theworldismine13]

I'm not pulling anything out of my ass. You've been repeating the same crap for months.

Throughout the history of this country inequalities have been justified by blaming those at the disadvantage. You are doing the exact same thing here. False science and misleading statistics has always been a tool used back up the rhetoric. And that's exactly what you are doing here.

It's truly despicable and this will be my last post in this thread cause all of this has been said plenty of times over.

My ideology is one of a strong belief in individual freedom and economic freedom, so there is nothing that I'm saying that would cause anybody to be put into slavery or to be oppressed, in fact the concepts of individual freedom and economic freedom when applied to all human beings is what stops slavery and oppression

 

[theworldismine13]

Point out to us here in this thread where people are saying they want whites to fix xyz.

You hold blacks in a really negative light. You make broad sweeping generalizations about millions of people and what our communities are or aren't doing.
You are everything that I say that you are. It's not about name calling or anything else, it has to be said and it is what it is.

When your particular ideology is based on false information and the type of hyperbole that comes from the far right and Neo Nazi's(no hyperbole) don't be surprised when you're called on it. I think it was Meech who pointed it out, anyways what you're doing is essentially being anti-intellectual. So you can stop throwing that word around anytime you feel like.

I don't give a damn about what people think on this website and I've show my contempt for the majority of posters here everyday.
I know where I am from, and I know who I am.

You can say the blacks are victims looking for handouts and "maybe if you left the black community you would see its faults" all you want.
Anyone who reads this forum and is remotely intelligent can see through you and that you're ignorant. I don't think you're malicious, I just think that you're a really ignorant person.

I did give an example, whether it's reducing crime or improving black schools the ideas that most people have about how to fix them have to do with white people doing something, I think the black community has become too obsessed with liberal/leftist solutions which emasculate black people in the long run becuase like I'm pointing out people have a hard time grasping that most problems that black people have can and will be fixed by black people

My ideology comes from a strong belief in individual freedom and economic freedom, the rest of your post is just name calling so I dont really have any response to it, I think we need to refrain from name calling if we want to have an intellectual discussion

 

[88m3]

I did give an example, whether it's reducing crime or improving black schools the ideas that most people have about how to fix them have to do with white people doing something, I think the black community has become too obsessed with liberal/leftist solutions which emasculate black people in the long run becuase like I'm pointing out people have a hard time grasping that most problems that black people have can and will be fixed by black people

My ideology comes from a strong belief in individual freedom and economic freedom, the rest of your post is just name calling so I dont really have any response to it, I think we need to refrain from name calling if we want to have an intellectual discussion

Your response isn't even relevant to what I wrote.

 

[bigDeeOT]

Point out to us here in this thread where people are saying they want whites to fix xyz.

I've already pointed this out. There's a whole bunch of posts earlier in this thread and I replied to every single one of them.

when we talk about schools and family these ppl are just laughing because some laws in place will forever keep black families and people down and in a state of confusion.

...the black community is no different and maybe even worse than during slavery days because of the laws in place... When these same laws aren't enforced in "white" communities/states..

When people talk about how the problems affecting blacks are due to white people and slavery its obvious they think the solution is for white people to stop oppressing them. He thinks white people should change the laws that hold down blacks.

If he thought the solution was for blacks to some how rise against these barriers to achieve something greater, you'd see him talking about what we could do in spite of the "oppression" from whites. Whenever I see a black person talking about racism, that's literally all its ever about. It doesn't go anywhere. It's always one big circle jerk about how we're all hopeless victims in this white man's world.

 

[theworldismine13]

Your response isn't even relevant to what I wrote.

Your response was mostly just insults but I responded directly to the point about people not being able to come up with ideas that don't involve white people

And that's the reality, most people don't really have a black agenda, they have a white agenda, just a list of things that white people need to do so that black people can move forward, that type of thinking only takes you so far, which is where black people are right now

 

[Serious]

I'll tell you why white flight is a bad thing. Its pretty simple. Because whenever you have a high concentration of black people its very hard for them to work together. If you leave an entire city in the hands of black people, the city underperforms by almost any measure of social standards. I think you'd be hard pressed to name even one city, institution, or any sort of congregation run by black people that can serve as a model for how blacks can work together. It's quite sad that there's literally not one single example in this entire country. And I'm not talking about the past, I mean currently or within the last 50 years.

sohh nobody checked this cat after publishing this post....

 

[Calmye]

Someone disagreed with him and now he labels the "community" as anti intellectual

Ive never once seen black folks put down intllectuals in the neighbourhoods iv been too. If black communities had access to grade A schools we would have more "intellectuals".