Exactly now compare that to Ghosts of Tsushima and tell me the west ain't working with some shyt. That game ran on launch PS4's with sub 10 second load times.
Honest Conversation: Is Japan the best at making games?
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Exactly now compare that to Ghosts of Tsushima and tell me the west ain't working with some shyt. That game ran on launch PS4's with sub 10 second load times.
CoolinInTheCut
Superstar
If we're talking simply making a fun product, sure.
If we're talking about actually pushing the industry and technology forward, then Japan is far behind the rest of the world.
If we're talking about actually pushing the industry and technology forward, then Japan is far behind the rest of the world.
O³ (O cubed)
No more PAWGs, PLEASE??!!!??
Outside fighting games and rhythm games, nah.
Rise of the Ronin has framerate issues.
FF7 REbirth & 16 also suffer from this.
Dragon's Dogma 2, Monster Hunter. Elden Ring.
ALonelyDad
Veteran
They are good and output is better than Western devs but Western devs get punished for things that they get a pass on by gamers.
They have better action games
ReggieFlare
Superstar
Y’all keep bringing up examples to the contrary which is fine but I’m speaking from a relative standpoint
ChatGPT seems to agree with me
Thread all over the place, when you start talking about optimization and not just the complete package, when you do that America auto loses because of how big the indie scene is.
Also optimization is subjective to a certain extent. Some of y'all in this very thread have played multiple unoptimized games this year and are ready to go give them GOTY.
Infact 2 of the sticked threads shows this, one has over 2k replies and is active daily, the other was optimized far better, and is from Japan, came out more recently, and has a faction of the activity.
Who made the better game?
Also optimization is subjective to a certain extent. Some of y'all in this very thread have played multiple unoptimized games this year and are ready to go give them GOTY.
Infact 2 of the sticked threads shows this, one has over 2k replies and is active daily, the other was optimized far better, and is from Japan, came out more recently, and has a faction of the activity.
Who made the better game?
Yes
The US did great work starting from the late PS2 up until mid PS4 era but now Japan's running away with it.
The US did great work starting from the late PS2 up until mid PS4 era but now Japan's running away with it.
cyndaquil
Lv 100 Bold natured
It's arguable. Looking across all eras of gaming they've been pretty strong.
Diondon
Thanks to the lawyers uh, I marbled the foyer
If you think so, cool
Not my type games doe except Astro the gawd
Not my type games doe except Astro the gawd
Khalil's_Black_Excellence
The King of Fighters
Khalil's_Black_Excellence
The King of Fighters
I think it's due to that for most Japanese devs, not only is it more relatively easier to be scooped up by the big boys, but also, as someone else stated, the company man mantra and generally being less likely to be fired, the machine keeps all the talent more often than not. Funny enough, outside of Kojima, it seems some of the more notable devs, upon going indie, they don't seem to do so well. Maybe they strive better under that company structure.
They are the godfathers but it seems like in Japan most of the time the corp suits let the gamers and devs do their thing. Alot of American/uk made games were made with small studios