History Channel Portrays Hannibal as Black, White People Cry Foul Over ‘Historical Revisionism’

[Bawon Samedi]

can i have a link to those articles please, i assumed berbers were Caucasoid.

You're going to have to describe what you mean with "Caucasoid", because you Somalis and other horners were also classified as "Caucasoid."

Anyways, one of my favorites.
"The sub-Saharan origin of North African populations have been proposed on the basis of results indicating local evolution of Y chromosome and mtDNA African haplogroups (Ennafaa et al. 2009; Frigi et al. 2010). The much later transaharan trade in enslaved persons no doubt played a role in genetic contributions, but the egress from a dessicating Sahara with subsequent population formations would explain some of the “sub-Saharan” variation be it from western or eastern Africa."
Cherni and Frigi (2011):

Their Y-DNA is ENTIRELY East African in origins i.e E-M81 which shows very high in Berber males.

Their mtDNA is mixed with a lot of Eurasian, but still a good number of African. SOME Berber groups acquired mtDNA U6 which originally came from the Near East or Europe 30k years ago. Euronuts like to use this to claim the Berbers have non-African origins. But again the Berbers ACQUIRED it, since they obviously weren't around 30k years ago. But more importantly Euronuts forgot that some West Africans too carry U6 and also U6 mutated and is no longer Eurasian, but locally African.

So yes the Berber origins is African, East African to be specific. And while todays Berbers are mostly admixed that is a result of European women(slave) and African males(slave master).

 

[Londilon]

Ironic this made it to the roots. Got too many cacs mad.

 

[Oceanicpuppy]

White people have white washed countless historical figures.

Rocky Balboa has a statue in Philly and he is a fictional character. This is how they get down, most of the figures in their history aren't who they say they are. There's more proof Jesus was real than Alexander the Great.

Trust nothing they say, don't trust anything on the history channel either, it's always and agenda, don't care if they made him black, don't really give a fukk about hannibal either.

Yet Joe Louis doesn't have one. An American hero that beat up a nazi.

 

[Blade]

Link

Spoiler

MEGA

 

[MikeyC]

Ok lets try to pretend their argument is worth a cent..

Ok cacs, if Hannibal was white, how the fukk did he get elephants?

I've never heard of a Euro Elephant and no other European army used elephants, so why does Hannibal use them and how the fukk did he have access to them if he was a cac?

If, going by some posters in this thread, Black Africans in Antiquity traversed oceans, jungles and deserts with ease, why would it not be feesable for (apparent) non-Black North Africans to maybe capture or trade Elephants in Sub-Saharan Africa?

shyt just fyi for those that don't know Beethoven was mulatto

Didn't know that did ya

So this is one of my favorite examples of Whites 'whitenizing' historical figures

Sophia Charlotte was mulatto this is what she looked like

How could they be mulatto when neither of thier parents were Black? And even if they were, why do take pride in these people, who had done nothing for Black people during their time? Wouldn't they be classified as c00ns in todays day and age?

Stuart Jeffries: Was the consort of George III Britain's first black queen?

Does Valdes's theory conclusively determine that Queen Charlotte had African forebears? Hardly. And if she had African forebears, would that mean we could readily infer she was black? That, surely, depends on how we define what it is to be black. In the US, there was for many decades a much-derided "one-drop rule", whereby any white-looking person with any percentage of "black blood" was not regarded as being really white. Although now just a historical curio, it was controversially invoked recently by the African-American lawyer Alton Maddox Jr, who argued that under the one-drop rule, Barack Obama wouldn't be the first black president.

In an era of mixed-race celebrities such as Tiger Woods and Mariah Carey, and at a time when in the US, the UK and any other racially diverse countries mixed-raced relationships are common, this rule seems absurd. But without such a rule, how do we determine Charlotte's ethnicity? If she is black, aren't we all?

 

[Londilon]

If, going by some posters in this thread, Black Africans in Antiquity traversed oceans, jungles and deserts with ease, why would it not be feesable for (apparent) non-Black North Africans to maybe capture or trade Elephants in Sub-Saharan Africa?




How could they be mulatto when neither of thier parents were Black? And even if they were, why do take pride in these people, who had done nothing for Black people during their time? Wouldn't they be classified as c00ns in todays day and age?

Ok, mad cac. We know u lie and rewrite history, nothing you say holds weight anymore to black people. We don't subscribe to your lies.

Stupid cac thinks some inbreed euros could go to Africa and trap/trade elephants and train them for war when they know next to nothing about them. This dumb fukk

 

[Dominoes]

Dudes dont even pick up a book and are acting like they know more info on the topic than people that actually read and think critically.

And the ones that do pick up the books conveniently find themselves in the white supremacist section 1st, newblack section 2nd; then have the audacity to call African history "Afrocentric" and bias if it doesn't relegate us to slaves or tribe on tribe crime.



Watch out for these people. They sometimes come off as super liberal, down with what they perceive as Black culture (hip-hop mostly), and always refer to 1 or 2 of their Black friends or some negropean "expert" when they want to make a point about Black people and our history.

 

[BlackMajik]

Dudes dont even pick up a book and are acting like they know more info on the topic than people that actually read and think critically.

And the ones that do pick up the books conveniently find themselves in the white supremacist section 1st, newblack section 2nd; then have the audacity to call African history "Afrocentric" and bias if it doesn't relegate us to slaves or tribe on tribe crime.



Watch out for these people. They sometimes come off as super liberal, down with what they perceive as Black culture (hip-hop mostly), and always refer to 1 or 2 of their Black friends or some negropean "expert" when they want to make a point about Black people and our history.

When white folks can't defeat you they'll always find some Negro—some boot-licking, butt-licking, buck-dancing, bamboozled, half-baked, half-fried, sissified, punkified, pasteurized, homogenized ******—that they can trot out in front of you

-Khalid Muhammad

 

[Dominoes]

When white folks can't defeat you they'll always find some Negro—some boot-licking, butt-licking, buck-dancing, bamboozled, half-baked, half-fried, sissified, punkified, pasteurized, homogenized ******—that they can trot out in front of you

-Khalid Muhammad

EVERY SINGLE TIME

 

[J-Nice]

First post on the coli this year (the root no less) and it's filled with nothing but garbage speculation with no context. I sometimes cringe reading history threads on this site when most of the people posting have never done credible research on the given subject and they come off looking stupid and misinformed( like most of you dumbasses in this thread).

Hannibal being descended from the Phoenicians doesn't make him any less African. He was pure Punic Carthaginian. By Hannibal's time the founders of Khart Haddas were absorbed into the local African population. But also keep in mind that Carthage was not only a naval power but they were also a cosmopolitan state with advanced infrastructure that posed a major threat to Rome who wanted to control trade in the Mediterranean. To get an idea of who the original population were, research the Afer people. They are the original inhabitants of Carthage. Even though most literature about Carthage is lost through Rome destroying it and the Numidians taking it, the writings of Mago still survive.

And before people ask what books have I read, here are some below:

 

[MikeyC]

Ok, mad cac. We know u lie and rewrite history, nothing you say holds weight anymore to black people. We don't subscribe to your lies.

Stupid cac thinks some inbreed euros could go to Africa and trap/trade elephants and train them for war when they know next to nothing about them. This dumb fukk

This is your answer?



No wonder The Root has gone to the dogs.

 

[Breh13]

Link

Spoiler

MEGA

Thanks for linking the episode breh.

MEGA downloads fast.

 

[Londilon]

This is your answer?



No wonder The Root has gone to the dogs.

Because cacs that have no interaction with Elephants decide to go shopping in Africa and have the know-how to train and take care of elephants for the soul purpose to have them fight in a war when they have never used Elephants for war before. Ok dumb cac, I bet it makes you mad that your word aint gold anymore. So mad that he can't say shyt on the fly and people won't question it.

Yall the same insecure cacs that broke the noses off all the statues in Egypt to try and hide that the Egyptians were black

 

[Crayola Coyote]

But everyone knows hannibal was black, why the white people complaining about it now????

Cause they can't lie about history

 

[Colicat]

This is what happens when you try to argue with a laymen that not only knows what she is talking about and never studied history, but more importantly ignores your key points while continuing to project nonsense into ones argument.

So we're going to act like the word "Moor" during the time of Hannibal, wasn't mostly used by the Romans? The Romans were the ones who used the term "Moor" for the most part of the time period.

Now where do I say in ANY of those posts that we should only go by the Romans.

Stop with the weak projections already.


Are you even making sense? Why the heck would I lie when I'm still waiting for an example. You still have not thus for given us an example of the Romans lying about the race of Hannibal or any other group!

This is what happens when people just argue just to argue.



Just another example of you putting stuff in peoples mouths. Still waiting for you to give us an example of the Romans distorting the race of a group or person.


Waiting for you to fetch us an example. I already told you many times that the Romans saw lighter toned people as INFERIOR, while they saw darker skinned people like the Nubians, Garamantes and native Carthaginians(Numidians) as more intelligent.


Roman Civilization: Selected Readings, Volume 2

Basically saying that the Romans believed that since they were a mixture of those from the north(Europe) and south(Africa) that they have the best "balance." They considered those of the south(Africa) to be more intelligent, while those from the North(Europe) to have a lot of brute strength but less intelligent. Not only that, but I believe one poster already said Roman generals respected Hannibal.

Once AGAIN WHAT REASON would the Romans have to lie about Hannibal's ethnicity??? If ANYTHING if Hannibal was lighter toned like a pale skinned Northern European, they would lie since they considered those groups to be barbarians and inferior.




And yet still no example of Rome lying about Hannibal's or anyone else race/ethnicity...

Juvenal wrote about preferences for fairer [read pure white] appearances. Messalina and Caracalla both wore Blonde wigs in order to appear more noble.
Nobility putting on blonde wigs to be more accepted. Go figure.

Again why wouldn't Rome lie about race...and this has implications beyond 250 BC.

Being equal opportunity fukkers and enslavers doesn't mean that the Romans weren't history revisionists (at any stage in history); especially against a millitary thorn in their side.

fukk out of here with your faux elitist "fetch us an example" "layman" and "never studied history" bullshyt. Who the fukk is us? What kind of homphillic shyt is that?

Don't drench your posts with ad hominem malarkey and expect me to respond to your shyt.