Heat (1995) is a GREAT movie

[Formerly Black Trash]

Just saw it

Wow

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

I had COFFEE with McCaully.... HALF AN HOUR AGO......

 

[Knights89]

Great, influential, important film but Waingro.....anything with Waingro can go lol. A smooth , meticulous operator like McCauley taking up with Waingro doesn't' make sense, and he wasn't even introduced to the crew(at least Michael) before the heist. Seems unlike McCauley. Then it sets up the rape/murder sublot that goes unresolved. The fire alarm and McCauley knocking on the door backwards facing the camera but avoiding Waingro lol
He isn't needed for the Van Zant storyline either, because while they did steal from him they were being upfront about selling his bearer bonds back to him

 

[Piff Tannen]

Director definitive edition free on YouTube

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Great, influential, important film but Waingro.....anything with Waingro can go lol. A smooth , meticulous operator like McCauley taking up with Waingro doesn't' make sense, and he wasn't even introduced to the crew(at least Michael) before the heist. Seems unlike McCauley. Then it sets up the rape/murder sublot that goes unresolved. The fire alarm and McCauley knocking on the door backwards facing the camera but avoiding Waingro lol
He isn't needed for the Van Zant storyline either, because while they did steal from him they were being upfront about selling his bearer bonds back to him

Him being unable to let go of Waingro gettin over on him was his downfall but that's the point, he went against code and it cost him. But Waingro was hired by Van Zant to get some intel. Van Zant tried to fukk them over on the sell back. Waingro knew Michael and that was enough for McCaully cause he and Mike went way way back he trusted his word

 

[Dr. Narcisse]

@PAWG Life

Ole girl aged well (some of this from a 6 years or so ago tbf)

Look like she was about to touch that thang

 

[altruicsense]

this movie has every lesson a man needs for life.

 

[rabbid]

just watched this for the first time...

only thing that kept it from being perfect was how sloppy everyone was just in general. its hard to believe these guys were career criminals at certain points... mainly like, why were they so rushed for time? none of them needed to be anywhere anytime soon, alot of them were even from the LA area. could've just layed low for much longer after each score.

then u had old girl sitting in the car like a fukking idiot like she thought old dude was going for a spot of tea while shyts hitting the fan all around the car. that bish was dumb. how a nikka like Neil fall in love with her, he didnt know her from shyt or have anything in common with her. that was supposed to be for the night. Lots of little inconsistencies that you can explain away for cinematic purposes i guess.

 

[old pig]

just watched this for the first time...

wow…what a movie-watching experience this must’ve been

 

[SupaVillain]

 

[Sunalmighty]

Just saw it

Wow

Greatest film ever made.

Been saying this

 

[re'up]

just watched this for the first time...

only thing that kept it from being perfect was how sloppy everyone was just in general. its hard to believe these guys were career criminals at certain points... mainly like, why were they so rushed for time? none of them needed to be anywhere anytime soon, alot of them were even from the LA area. could've just layed low for much longer after each score.

then u had old girl sitting in the car like a fukking idiot like she thought old dude was going for a spot of tea while shyts hitting the fan all around the car. that bish was dumb. how a nikka like Neil fall in love with her, he didnt know her from shyt or have anything in common with her. that was supposed to be for the night. Lots of little inconsistencies that you can explain away for cinematic purposes i guess.

You have to go a little deeper into the characters to understand some of those parts. It's a movie that you will get more and more, if you watch again in a year or so.

Little insight into Neil's character, is a familiar theme in Mann's work, is that it's very much in line with his character, to essentially fall in love with someone, whom he doesn't know very well. "I know enough". They don't lay a lot of this out, but in Mann's Thief, James Cann character explains it a lot more expansively. Also, the scene at the dinner, you notice everyone has a partner, and Neil doesn't, so he walks out and makes a phone call, connecting with Edie. It's that split second decision. And he doubts himself enough to walk away, there's a scene where she says "what's wrong", and he pauses like he's lost, because he knows he's tripping, and then looks up again, and says "Nothing's wrong everythings right, say you'll go"

it has to happen fast, or else it won't happen at all.

When you are a professional criminal, you run so fast, so long, you stop for air, and end up falling in love, almost arbitrarily with someone, who you let your guard down with. And since he's a professional criminal, in his mind, he has no time or space for that process of falling in love, you need to roll now or not, and he tells her as much. Another theme in Mann's movies, is the idea that time is luck. Mann comes back to that theme in most of his movies.

He tells her this too. As in, we only have right now. He could be done or dead next week, next morning. There's no time for meeting families, or going back and forth, like a rom com (or real life dating) we have this window right now to do this.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

You have to go a little deeper into the characters to understand some of those parts. It's a movie that you will get more and more, if you watch again in a year or so.

Little insight into Neil's character, is a familiar theme in Mann's work, is that it's very much in line with his character, to essentially fall in love with someone, whom he doesn't know very well. "I know enough". They don't lay a lot of this out, but in Mann's Thief, James Cann character explains it a lot more expansively. Also, the scene at the dinner, you notice everyone has a partner, and Neil doesn't, so he walks out and makes a phone call, connecting with Edie. It's that split second decision. And he doubts himself enough to walk away, there's a scene where she says "what's wrong", and he pauses like he's lost, because he knows he's tripping, and then looks up again, and says "Nothing's wrong everythings right, say you'll go"

it has to happen fast, or else it won't happen at all.

When you are a professional criminal, you run so fast, so long, you stop for air, and end up falling in love, almost arbitrarily with someone, who you let your guard down with. And since he's a professional criminal, in his mind, he has no time or space for that process of falling in love, you need to roll now or not, and he tells her as much. Another theme in Mann's movies, is the idea that time is luck.

He tells her this too. As in, we only have right now. He could be done or dead next week, next morning. There's no time for meeting families, or going back and forth, like a rom com (or real life dating) we have this window right now to do this.

Because he views a relationship through the lens of doin a job. His issue was that he always needed to be the smartest man in the room though, I think that was his downfall. He loved being the smartest man in town and he couldn't let a piece of shyt lowlife like Waingro get over on him.

 

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Just finished Heat 2 on audio book ... didn't disappoint

 

[the cac mamba]

i think the writing/dialog is what holds it back for me

great cast, cool story, great action, but something's just not all the way there with the final product