Has the feminist movement made men less manly?

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i know it sounds crazy because you're a man but unfortunately i can relate. i get paranoid walking down the street in my neighborhood in the middle of the day. ive been followed home before and had a guy bang on my window like a lunatic. maybe perverts are the majority buts its way too many. im very petite so they see me as an easy target
I don't think it sounds crazy but online people like to make it seem too ridiculous like every dude trashing women just for saying no when that's not the norm at all regardless of,what anybody says. shyt I've asked female family/ friends how often they felt like a dude was going to do something to them and not a one felt that scarred. Annoyed but never scarred like dude was going to rape them. People have to do what they have to to feel safe but how some talk is crazy talk to me. That would be as bad me saying I'm not messing with black chicks sexually because 50% of them got the herp dog or some other silliness. I do my research but don't go looking at every chick as a herpes carrier shyt is stupid.
 
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I don't think it sounds crazy but online people like to make it seem too ridiculous like every dude trashing women just for saying no when that's not the norm at all regardless of,what anybody says. shyt I've asked female family/ friends how often they felt like a dude was going to do something to them and not a one felt that scarred. Annoyed but never scarred like dude was going to rape them. People have to do what they have to to feel safe but how some talk is crazy talk to me. That would be as bad me saying I'm not messing with black chicks sexually because 50% of them got the herp dog or some other silliness. I do my research but don't go looking at every chick as a herpes carrier shyt is stupid.

your female relatives dont represent all women. i know some women who are afraid to live by themselves because of predators. obviously not every man is a predator but its ALOT of them out here, and they hardly ever get caught/punished. I dont understand how you can underestimate sexual abuse when it happens to 1 in 4 women and most don't report it so chances are its slightly higher.
 

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your female relatives dont represent all women. i know some women who are afraid to live by themselves because of predators. obviously not every man is a predator but its ALOT of them out here, and they hardly ever get caught/punished. I dont understand how you can underestimate sexual abuse when it happens to 1 in 4 women and most don't report it so chances are its slightly higher.
Did I say they represent all women? No same way you and the people you know don't represent all women. Don't know why people say that when its the same thing right back at you. The point is different people have different views and the people I'm around IRL don't have the same views. Its a lot but they aren't close to the majority and nobody can get me to believe that. I don't believe them numbers so that's why I'm underestimating it. People only want to believe numbers when they benefit them. If you believe all numbers guess you believe 50% of y'all got herpes. I don't put all my faith in some numbers that shyt sounds good and even then 25% isn't close to a majority of anything. Not saying it should happen at all but 25% isn't close to the majority for people to act like they claim they do. It doesn't bother me because IRL for me and males I know we don't see this stuff so this is just Internet discussion honestly
 
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Did I say they represent all women? No same way you and the people you know don't represent all women. Don't know why people say that when its the same thing right back at you. The point is different people have different views and the people I'm around IRL don't have the same views. Its a lot but they aren't close to the majority and nobody can get me to believe that. I don't believe them numbers so that's why I'm underestimating it. People only want to believe numbers when they benefit them. If you believe all numbers guess you believe 50% of y'all got herpes. I don't put all my faith in some numbers that shyt sounds good and even then 25% isn't close to a majority of anything. Not saying it should happen at all but 25% isn't close to the majority for people to act like they claim they do. It doesn't bother me because IRL for me and males I know we don't see this stuff so this is just Internet discussion honestly

majority of america has type 1 herpes. over 90% of perverts are men , if the stats are there i dont see the problem with generalizing.
 

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majority of america has type 1 herpes. over 90% of perverts are men , if the stats are there i dont see the problem with generalizing.
I need stats on that 90% number fam. You don't see the problem with generalizing? Ok as long as I don't see you crying about it when it don't benefit you cool.
 
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I need stats on that 90% number fam. You don't see the problem with generalizing? Ok as long as I don't see you crying about it when it don't benefit you cool.

you can easily google this stat. If i dont fit the generalization than i dont care to be honest.
 
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I need stats on that 90% number fam. You don't see the problem with generalizing? Ok as long as I don't see you crying about it when it don't benefit you cool.

i was bored so here you go
Males are reported to be the abusers in 80-95% of cases
http://yellodyno.com/Statistics/statistics_child_molester.html

less than 1% of all incarcerated rape and sexual assault offenders were female]
http://www.csom.org/pubs/mythsfacts.html
 

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Yeah you were bored so you pulled the first thing out your ass from that said 90% of men did something so that means 90% of males are perverts eh even though that's about something completely different? So chances are everybody in your family from your pops on down is a pervert and or rapist? Ok gotcha fam. See why your rep so low now smdh
 

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Day1: why can't these men grow some balls and approach women more
Day2: there are rapists and murderers out here. You have to watch out for these evil men

"Feminism"yall:duhh:
Basically can't be where the men at then the same person all men are rapist. fukk would want to talk to a chick that thinks they a rapist out here? I wouldn't
 

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When in your life have you ever seen a feminist cape for a man on any level?

Not sure why I didn't respond to this one earlier but one of the big things about feminism is that it goes to support men's rights and the general emotional health of men. Plainly, feminism is for everybody. There's even a book out there with that title.

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Obviously it's not a car crash, I'm showing you an example of how a person can be irresponsible at the same time that something bad happens to them.
Your inability to understand the connection is staggering.

But you're ultimately saying that she was at fault no matter how many times you say she wasn't. You were at a party doing normal things at a party. Did you expect to not be raped?

What you seem to be arguing for is what you're arguing against with another person. That women should be fearful of everyone they meet because they're in danger of being raped simply by being out doing regular things.

Here you go using extremes and outliers as if that's the norm. Stop it man. You see that shyt with dudes saying a chick ain't shyt maybe 10-20% of the time at best. Even the persistence is like you sure and its mainly done. Dudes love hyping up the small shyt into big problems. People can talk about whatever issue they choose doesn't mean anybody has to agree with each other same way you don't agree with @Raul and I don't agree with you. So there we all can speak on something and not have to agree.

Don't we all have anecdotes, though? Like shyt you see as funny until you realize how fukked up it is.

When I was younger, long after the fact of the actual incidents, my sister would tell stories about how dudes would approach her on the street. She would never admit to being fearful but you could tell from the way she told her story that even when she didn't want to give out her number, not knowing what would happen pretty much forced her hand.

And she even told me a story once about a guy asking her friend for her number as she got off the bus and the dude grabbed the girls arm and dialed the number right then and there. At the time, I thought this was funny because what a silly thing to do. And I didn't realize why women gave out fake numbers other than they thought a dude was ugly. Only later, reflecting on stories like this did I see that being anywhere near guys like that is harmful.

And that's the thing. Nearly every girl you meet will have a story similar to those. It doesn't need extremes or outliers, the majority just needs to tell their stories without being dismissed.
 

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Here you go using extremes and outliers as if that's the norm. Stop it man. You see that shyt with dudes saying a chick ain't shyt maybe 10-20% of the time at best. Even the persistence is like you sure and its mainly done. Dudes love hyping up the small shyt into big problems. People can talk about whatever issue they choose doesn't mean anybody has to agree with each other same way you don't agree with @Raul and I don't agree with you. So there we all can speak on something and not have to agree.
:coffee: So what percent of the time would it have to be for you to deem it enough of a problem to warrant talking about?

Again, why do YOU get to decide what the parameters of the discussion are?
 

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While I have a distaste for this modern hipster strain of feminism, you can't really blame it for making men less manly, I think what happened is that men were never taught to assert themselves anymore and in particular in the Black community, you now have about 2 generations of kids who never saw a man a provider and as the primary decision maker in the household, furthermore you have a popular culture stresses in living in the moment as opposed to building for the future.
 
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