Has the feminist movement made men less manly?

[Ashley Banks]

I think we can come to a general consensus of what qualifies as a dangerous situation, can we not?

Or are we just going to let everyone determine what is danger and legislate off that?

but what happens if I feel like I'm in danger in a situation that you don't think is dangerous?

 

[Remote]

but what happens if I feel like I'm in danger in a situation that you don't think is dangerous?

Good question.
Get out of that situation.

But I'd think that you would be able to recognize whether that was an isolated incident where you were in danger, or it you were in an environment that regularly breeds dangerous behavior.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

I think it's a collective effort.

So then why do you get to decide what the parameters of the discussion are?

U marginalize a whole gender of people with legitimate gripes and then wonder why they arent so happy to discuss things with you

Theyre not "feminazis"... youre just an a$$hole

 

[Remote]

So then why do you get to decide what the parameters of the discussion are?

U marginalize a whole gender of people with legitimate gripes and then wonder why they arent so happy to discuss things with you

Theyre not "feminazis"... youre just an a$$hole

Where am I setting the parameters of discussion here?
How am I marginalizing an entire gender's legitimate gripes?

Are you just fishing for daps or did you not see the 7 or 8 times in this thread that I've said women face real dangers, but that viewing all men as potential rapists is silly.

 

[GrindtooFilthy]

and street crime is lower than it has been for years.

only because there has been an increase in surveillance, you know what kind of shyt you could have gotten away with back in the 1900s till like the 1990s?

now every one and their mamma got a camera phone

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Where am I setting the parameters of discussion here?
How am I marginalizing an entire gender's legitimate gripes?

Are you just fishing for daps or did you not see the 7 or 8 times in this thread that I've said women face real dangers, but that viewing all men as potential rapists is silly.

If I wanted daps I would post like you.

What does a rapist look like? U think dudes are running around wearing "IM GONNA RAPE U" hoodies? U do know most rapes are committed by men the victims know right.....

 

[Remote]

If I wanted daps I would post like you.

What does a rapist look like? U think dudes are running around wearing "IM GONNA RAPE U" hoodies? U do know most rapes are committed by men the victims know right.....

What are you even arguing about?

You can't address anything I said.

I asked where am I setting parameters and marginalizing women's legitimate gripes?
Are you that lonely that you just wanna quote me all night?

 

[Another Man]

A non manly man is so because of his environment and upbringing more than anything. However, feminism does seem to be anti-masculinity all around. A man can't be a man without offending a feminist.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

What are you even arguing about?

You can't address anything I said.

I asked where am I setting parameters and marginalizing women's legitimate gripes?
Are you that lonely that you just wanna quote me all night?

You are setting parameters and marginalizing women's legitimate gripes by saying they aren't allowed to complain about a danger unless YOU feel its a legitimate danger. Thats not your call to make, and there is plenty of documented evidence of the dangers women face from random dudes on the street. ITs not just extreme shyt like rape. Just the very notion of being able to walk down a street in public w/o someone harassing you is a legitimate gripe.... but you will brush that off as "feminazism". You dont get to decide whats "silly".

 

[wet landscapes]

Like I said earlier.....

If you're at a party and a bunch of dudes beat the shyt out of you, they committed a crime and should go to jail.
And if you were drunk out of your mind, you behaved irresponsibly.

It's not your fault you got your ass kicked, but perhaps you could have avoided or prevented the situation had you been sober.


Now to circle back to my original post because I don't think you read it....



I'm not sure how else I can explain it.
If you're driving your car and you're looking in the mirror too much...and a drunk driver crashes into you from the side and you never saw it coming.....that drunk driver committed a crime and should go to jail. And while you didn't exactly do anything illegal....maybe your eyes should have been on the road. It's not your FAULT, but you were a bit reckless.

That's what I'm saying.



How is this not getting through?

you behaved like everyone else at the party
"yeah I got stabbed but it was my fault for going to the club "
"yeah I got my culo blasted with no consent but why was I at the bar in the first place "
stop breh you have so much to say about the actions of females but when a dude theoretically rapes a woman "he should go to jail but her fault for being irresponsible"
if thats truely how you feel then a woman being cautious around men shouldn't even be offensive, they're just being extra responsible, but no, that's also wrong

 

[Remote]

You are setting parameters and marginalizing women's legitimate gripes by saying they aren't allowed to complain about a danger unless YOU feel its a legitimate danger. Thats not your call to make, and there is plenty of documented evidence of the dangers women face from random dudes on the street. ITs not just extreme shyt like rape.

By "me", I don't mean me personally.

That's why I said "we can come to a general consensus" as to what constitutes reasonable danger.
We can't legislate on the basis of what a small number of people might consider dangerous or offensive.

With regard to "catcalling" for example, a woman might feel some fear by a man catcalling her on the street. But general consensus views this as more of a nuisance than an actual dangerous/fearful situation.

That's really the spirit of my argument.
I suppose it's marginalization in the sense that it's really not a big deal. But I'm not saying her feelings aren't real....perhaps just that...the fear is overblown.

 

[Remote]

you behaved like everyone else at the party
"yeah I got stabbed but it was my fault for going to the club "
"yeah I got my culo blasted with no consent but why was I at the bar in the first place "
stop breh you have so much to say about the actions of females but when a dude theoretically rapes a woman "he should go to jail but her fault for being irresponsible"
if thats truely how you feel then a woman being cautious around men shouldn't even be offensive, they're just being extra responsible, but no, that's also wrong

I literally said it's not her fault. Like, fukkin word for word.

 

[Spatial Paradox]

Preposterous.
First, there are WAY...WAY too many variables to account for the things that he accuses causes the death of people.

What things are you referring to that the author was talking about? The alcoholism and violence?

And D, arguing that masculinity is about feeling supression is the biggest load of bullshyt in this thread so far.

The 1st part of your reply is interesting though.

Care to explain why you think it's bullshyt?

 

[Remote]

What things are you referring to that the author was talking about? The alcoholism and violence?



Care to explain why you think it's bullshyt?

Yes, alcoholism and violence, for one thing...have way too many social and economic variables to account for to put the blame squarely on "masculinity"

And setting up the premise that masculinity is defined by supression is just ridiculous. He's defining the term/concept to fit his argument.

 

[Kenny West]

Man after reading this thread I'm pretty much convinced modern feminism is just a circlejerk