Has the feminist movement made men less manly?

[PlainSight]

It's feminism's fault

 

[Bless't]

shyt, I know myself. That's all that needs to be said. I'll move forward accordingly.

 

[Remote]

Reddit finally asking these questions.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

There are some real life forces at hand and some bullshyt.

Men are getting washed in the workplace and in higher education. There is evidence to show that part of this is a systematic failure that starts with grade school's inadequacy in managing male energy in formative years, writing it all off as "behavioral issues" instead of learning how to deal with it. Family courts and generally anything related to domestic law favors heavily towards women, even if the woman is in the wrong. So there are definitely some legitimate systematic issues out that need to be dealt with.

But to me, as a man, it seems more rational to deal with what is in my control, as a man. I can't wave a wand and fix the schools and the courts. And if I am going to make a serious effort to do so, I'm not gonna waste my time crying on a message board. Men are facing some issues but ultimately I think a lot of what is holding us back is our own poor choices.............

- We sleep with unworthy women with no protection, and then cry when we are tethered to them by the law when they have our children.
- We think with our dikks and act out in anger, and then claim to be rational and unaffected by emotion
- We willingly give ourselves into the traps of materialism to impress people we don't know who don't matter
- We don't take care of our bodies (see the obesity epidemic and all that comes with it)
- We talk a lot but don't really turn that talk into action

Etc. etc. Men are up against some odds, but ultimately, we are still men. If you give up control of your life, and leave its outcome to opportunistic thots, materialism, family courts, the justice system etc., is it really fair to blame them? Men seem to have forgotten the power and beauty of choice and self-autonomy. It makes me sick to my stomach reading all the dudes on here eagerly assuming the role of a victim to rationalize and excuplate themselves from their self created mediocrity.

This is worth repeating.... if you as a man aren't doing everything possible to empower and enrich yourself and others around you, you have NO RIGHT to cry about whatever comes of your life. Manhood is EARNED, not GIVEN

 

[Remote]

This is worth repeating.... if you as a man aren't doing everything possible to empower and enrich yourself and others around you, you have NO RIGHT to cry about whatever comes of your life. Manhood is EARNED, not GIVEN

You're right.

But it's also right that men's issues aren't taken seriously.

Consider that the gist of your post was "man up. Stop bytchin"

That's right, but only to a degree.
Because as we've seen over the last 35 years, those who have been bytchin have changed the landscape of society.

Just sayin.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

You're right.

But it's also right that men's issues aren't taken seriously.

Consider that the gist of your post was "man up. Stop bytchin"

That's right, but only to a degree.
Because as we've seen over the last 35 years, those who have been bytchin have changed the landscape of society.

Just sayin.

What do men have to bytch about? We are still the CEOs, the politicians, the managers, etc etc. In what realm do we have it harder than women?

 

[Remote]

What do men have to bytch about? We are still the CEOs, the politicians, the managers, etc etc. In what realm do we have it harder than women?

Stress/mental illness.
Suicides.
Divorce settlements.

To name a few.

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

lol....Whatever you say buddy. the pedestal is heavy with this one

Matt 504 from 20 yards away: "EXCUSE ME MADAM! MAY I HAVE YOUR PERMISSION TO SPEAK TO YOU?"

That poster is a woman

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Stress/mental illness.
Suicides.
Divorce settlements.

To name a few.

Only the last one directly affects men more than women, and even with that most married men don't get divorced.

 

[Remote]

Only the last one directly affects men more than women, and even with that most married men don't get divorced.

I'm just saying mens issues don't get taken seriously.

And when it's brought up, men are told to suck it up. Or we have to hear about how good we still have it.

And somehow no one notices this circle jerk?

 

[MajorVitaman]

Atrazine, Soy products, microwaves, BPH plastics and estrogen mimicking chemicals in Hormone/GMO food is making men less manly

 

[PlainSight]

I'm just saying mens issues don't get taken seriously.

And when it's brought up, men are told to suck it up. Or we have to hear about how good we still have it.

And somehow no one notices this circle jerk?

I agree that men's issues are not taken seriously.

How much of that do you attribute to feminism?

 

[Remote]

I agree that men's issues are not taken seriously.

How much of that do you attribute to feminism?

I'm not sure.
To be honest, I think we got off into a discussion that wasn't on topic with the original thread.

I agree with him that we men have to hold ourselves accountable to a large degree.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

I'm just saying mens issues don't get taken seriously.

And when it's brought up, men are told to suck it up. Or we have to hear about how good we still have it.

And somehow no one notices this circle jerk?

They don't get taken seriously because they are

1. Not that serious
2. Consequences of actions and choices, not results of external forces
3. Things that are not unique to men

If a man really needs mental help or w/e nobody is going to tell him to "suck it up". Suicide hotlines are not turning dudes away, psychologists are not telling dudes to "suck it up". Random people are generally not very helpful to anybody, and anonymous message boards like Youtube comments or here are probably the WORST place to look for help.

 

[Remote]

They don't get taken seriously because they are

1. Not that serious
2. Consequences of actions and choices, not results of external forces
3. Things that are not unique to men

If a man really needs mental help or w/e nobody is going to tell him to "suck it up". Suicide hotlines are not turning dudes away, psychologists are not telling dudes to "suck it up". Random people are generally not very helpful to anybody, and anonymous message boards like Youtube comments or here are probably the WORST place to look for help.

You could use those same arguments regarding any female issue.

How do you not see this circle jerk logic?